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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 20, 2023, 02:22:45 PM

I feel like PSG will get better, they had a huge off-season where Mbappe was almost gone, Messi left, Neymar left and that is their big three, not having them is a big deal. Now they are going to get used to their new squad and I bet that they are going to do very well too.

I know that it might look like we are talking about a situation where it is not a big deal as of right now, but I bet that it is going to be a big deal when the time comes. Obviously it may take a while and we may end up with a situation where they fail to get a win here and there, but even last year they barely won the title with those great players, so it may not be all that great this year too, but I bet that they will get the league at least.

L. Enrique is trying to build his system at PSG and it will get better with time but the midfield is very weak. PSG have changed a lot compared to last year. The midfield is very important in the system Luis Enrique is trying to bring in and it is essential to take measures for the midfield as soon as possible. The players are very close to each other, they have a very short time to win the ball but some of the PSG players don't fit into this system. Enrique's system will take time to adapt and PSG need to act quickly. For this reason, strong names need to be transferred to the team. L. Enrique's job is not easy this time and he has a lot of inexperienced players in his team. PSG may need more time.

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I just can't be sure of anything yet. One thing is certain though that PSG players need more time to play together efficiently. After the new transfers and the big change in the offense area there is some significant struggle. They are clearly having serious issues with scoring goals. If Mbappe wasn't subbed in I doubt they could have scored a goal.

PSG would definitely try their best to keep Mbappe by convincing him into staying somehow. Offering more money might not work anymore.

Because if he wants Real Madrid they can surely offer the same contract to him as well. When he leaves I can't imagine how it would affect PSG for now.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 20, 2023, 02:22:45 PM

I feel like PSG will get better, they had a huge off-season where Mbappe was almost gone, Messi left, Neymar left and that is their big three, not having them is a big deal. Now they are going to get used to their new squad and I bet that they are going to do very well too.

I know that it might look like we are talking about a situation where it is not a big deal as of right now, but I bet that it is going to be a big deal when the time comes. Obviously it may take a while and we may end up with a situation where they fail to get a win here and there, but even last year they barely won the title with those great players, so it may not be all that great this year too, but I bet that they will get the league at least.

I don't think with PSG have did very well performance last two matches in Ligue 1 failed for three points achievement, last match PSG got draw against Tolouse and they can't scoring goals trough open play match after Mbappe goal from penalty kick. Need time for PSG waking up after losing many important player last season, left by Lionel Messi, Neymar, Sergio Ramos and last rumor left with Marco Veratti make PSG have rebuilding with their new player and they need time for adapting in Ligue 1.

Ousmane Dembele appearance forty minutes last match can't give contribution well and PSG difficult scoring goals, have been two match PSG scored one goals and seems bad starts in Ligue 1 not only difficult for winning but also get the same difficult for scoring goals.

Well my worry for them is not about the ligue 1 because PSG has been very Dominant for a very long time there and they'll still manage to win a trophy even when their performance is poor, like for instance their was a point when they had terrible performance for several matches but they still managed to win the league, i more worried about their Performance in the Champions league tournament and im beginning to think that they’ve let go of many star players without more quality replacement for them, and it might take a while for the new signings to adapt into the new system and i hope it doesn't take much longer cause it would be very unprofessional.
Image if Mbappe had left too that means there would be no reliable player to get them get goals, Enrique is a good profissional coach with experience and he needs to do something about his teams scoring ability, matches against Toulouse is supposed to be an easy task for PSG but they're find it difficult to get goals then how do they expect to play when the champions league tournament starts.

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Quote from: xzone on August 20, 2023, 09:18:38 AM

PSG surprised me, they held the ball throughout the game and got a lot more chances. But unfortunately they were not successful in scoring goals. They lost points in this match as they conceded a penalty goal in the last minutes.
I think it's quite surprising because I expected psg to continue this season without losing points for a long time. Now they have lost 4 points in the second week. I am very curious about their performance in the rest of the season

Bad start PSG, but it's funny that in the first game where Mbappe was not at all, PSG scored 0 goals, in the second game where Mbappe played less than half, one goal was already scored. Interestingly, in the next game he will be released from the start? After all, if PSG continue shiting to Mbappe, it looks like they can even fail in Ligue 1.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 20, 2023, 02:22:45 PM

I feel like PSG will get better, they had a huge off-season where Mbappe was almost gone, Messi left, Neymar left and that is their big three, not having them is a big deal. Now they are going to get used to their new squad and I bet that they are going to do very well too.

I know that it might look like we are talking about a situation where it is not a big deal as of right now, but I bet that it is going to be a big deal when the time comes. Obviously it may take a while and we may end up with a situation where they fail to get a win here and there, but even last year they barely won the title with those great players, so it may not be all that great this year too, but I bet that they will get the league at least.

I don't think with PSG have did very well performance last two matches in Ligue 1 failed for three points achievement, last match PSG got draw against Tolouse and they can't scoring goals trough open play match after Mbappe goal from penalty kick. Need time for PSG waking up after losing many important player last season, left by Lionel Messi, Neymar, Sergio Ramos and last rumor left with Marco Veratti make PSG have rebuilding with their new player and they need time for adapting in Ligue 1.

Ousmane Dembele appearance forty minutes last match can't give contribution well and PSG difficult scoring goals, have been two match PSG scored one goals and seems bad starts in Ligue 1 not only difficult for winning but also get the same difficult for scoring goals.

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I feel like PSG will get better, they had a huge off-season where Mbappe was almost gone, Messi left, Neymar left and that is their big three, not having them is a big deal. Now they are going to get used to their new squad and I bet that they are going to do very well too.

I know that it might look like we are talking about a situation where it is not a big deal as of right now, but I bet that it is going to be a big deal when the time comes. Obviously it may take a while and we may end up with a situation where they fail to get a win here and there, but even last year they barely won the title with those great players, so it may not be all that great this year too, but I bet that they will get the league at least.

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Quote from: klidex on August 20, 2023, 12:39:15 PM

Slightly disagree with this argument because I see that Kylian Mbappe managed to make a perfect contribution for Paris SG and we can see in yesterday's match that Kylian Mbappe succeeded in becoming Paris SG's assist goal to win the match and it is also proven that Paris SG is very dependent on Mbappe's talent to at the moment so if this season Paris SG decide to sell Kylian Mbappe I think it will be a very bad future.
If we talk about challenges in the champions league, indeed Paris SG will not be able to win the champions league title because since there are star players besides Mbappe Paris SG has also failed to get a trophy in the champions league.
But it doesn't matter to me because getting the league 1 title is more than enough.

btw yesterday's match between Toulouse and PSG was a draw and Mbappe's goal came via Penalty.
Even if what you say can still be justified because Mbappe is currently the most expected player to bring PSG better but on the other hand with him playing alone now it is also difficult.
Last season there were still Messi and Neymar although they were always criticized for their difficulty in creating goals but they always provided support to Mbappe so that he was free to score goals but this time it is different, it is very difficult for Mbappe to single-handedly change PSG especially with the egoism that still exists (although it is less than before).

PSG at the moment especially for their first 2 matches is really bad for me and this is the worst start for PSG at the beginning of the season in recent seasons.

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Quote from: hahay on August 20, 2023, 12:55:06 PM

I wonder, whether Lyon has a big overhaul of its team this season, until make Lyon experience bad results in the first two matches this season. Also, basically the opponents Lyon faced basically not a tough team to beat, so even if Lyon could not beat them or could not win in these first two matches. Then yes, Lyon should have been able to get a draw result, but what happened was Lyon looked like a mediocre team or maybe worse.

With two defeats in early matches like this too, it is certainly enough for Lyon to be a team that is at the bottom of the Ligue 1 standings right now. Indeed, this is just the beginning but if Lyon does not have the right efforts to restore the team's performance, then surely Lyon in this season will only struggle to get out of the relegation zone. At least, a case like this reminds me of Sevilla in La Liga last season who throughout the season were more in the lower zone in the standings.

Lyon is absolutely at the bottom of the table. It is not going to be very wild to actually think that they are probably going to finish somewhere close to the relegation zone. At least if they do not change things very quickly in the squad. They definitely have to make big changes. And they have to make those changes quickly.

Otherwise, it is going to be really hard for them to actually climb the table. Being at the absolute bottom of the table as a team that has finished seventh in the last season is definitely not a good sign. I Definitely do not think that the situation is going to change for them unless they bring in some new and better players.

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I wonder, whether Lyon has a big overhaul of its team this season, until make Lyon experience bad results in the first two matches this season. Also, basically the opponents Lyon faced basically not a tough team to beat, so even if Lyon could not beat them or could not win in these first two matches. Then yes, Lyon should have been able to get a draw result, but what happened was Lyon looked like a mediocre team or maybe worse.

With two defeats in early matches like this too, it is certainly enough for Lyon to be a team that is at the bottom of the Ligue 1 standings right now. Indeed, this is just the beginning but if Lyon does not have the right efforts to restore the team's performance, then surely Lyon in this season will only struggle to get out of the relegation zone. At least, a case like this reminds me of Sevilla in La Liga last season who throughout the season were more in the lower zone in the standings.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 20, 2023, 10:32:23 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on August 20, 2023, 10:16:38 AM

I still can't stop thinking how it is possible for Lyon to suffer a crushing defeat at home to Montpellier with a score of 1-4. Even though statistically Lyon are so dominating and Montpellier seems to often let go when they enter Lyon's defense area, this is evidenced by a total of 8 shots on target. I think Lyon's defense is really bad and the goalkeeper can't do much even though he managed to make 4 saves. Lately, Lyon has experienced a decline in performance, they should be able to win against a team whose quality is quite far below them, but Lyon has been unable to overcome this. Last week they also lost against Strasbourg and Lyon should have been able to win in that match but they had to accept the harsh reality of the current defeat.

I did not expect Lyon to beat Montpellier because they have a good defensive line even though their midfield is a bit weak; they drew their first match against Le Havre, therefore I expect them to play at least a draw against Lyon because Lyon is defensively weak.

Winning Lyon by four goals away from home is a great advantage for them considering Lyon has been the winning team in their last four matches they played together. This clearly shows that Lyon is not a strong opponent this season, and if they did not consider strengthening their team before the window closed, they might end up in the relegation zone.

I am actually going to agree with @rendravolt that I also did not think Lyon is actually going to lose against Montpelier. Let alone lose by such a big margin. Lyon had a big percentage of possession in this match. But they were not able to do much with it to be honest. They failed to do anything meaningful in the final third of the pitch. But on the other hand, even though Montpelier did not have much control over the game, they did certainly score when they had the chance. and I think it was easy to understand that towards the end Lyon actually got a little frustrated as well.

By the way, I do not think that they are actually going to end up in the relegation zone towards the end of the season. But I don’t think the performance is going to be great if they do not make changes in the squad.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 20, 2023, 07:56:33 AM

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I thought mbape would play perfectly against Toulouse in this very difficult game but in reality mbape's performance was not that great, I think somehow. with a 1-1 draw against Toulouse and while Toulouse is in 3rd place with 4 points, PSG is still in 8th place with 2 points which PSG coach Luis Enrique needs to improve for the next game.

Mbappe is still an inconsistent player. Many people trust him to help PSG leaves from the critical situation, but the club can't only rely on him. I remind you that how messi was helping mbappe last season with so many assists, Mbappe will not able to perform the same like last season.
Im not sure if PSG will be able to win league 1 this season. I hope that another team will be able to break the win streak that is owned by PSG. Enrique needs to improve the performance from PSG or khelaifi may sack him as a coach.
Im feeling doubtful about PSG. Mbappe talked too much about UCL but it was always getting draw even against the weak team in league 1. How can PSG win UCL if it keeps perform like a mediocre club?
This team looks so garbage right now. The performance is far below last season. Some transfers were not performing so well.

Slightly disagree with this argument because I see that Kylian Mbappe managed to make a perfect contribution for Paris SG and we can see in yesterday's match that Kylian Mbappe succeeded in becoming Paris SG's assist goal to win the match and it is also proven that Paris SG is very dependent on Mbappe's talent to at the moment so if this season Paris SG decide to sell Kylian Mbappe I think it will be a very bad future.
If we talk about challenges in the champions league, indeed Paris SG will not be able to win the champions league title because since there are star players besides Mbappe Paris SG has also failed to get a trophy in the champions league.
But it doesn't matter to me because getting the league 1 title is more than enough.

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Quote from: hahay on August 20, 2023, 10:32:09 AM

It seems, Enrique is still trying some strategies by not playing Mbappe and Dembele in the starting eleven in the match against Toulouse with a 1-1 draw. Even, I really expect PSG to be able to win big in the match because are Dembele and Mbappe in the PSG squad in this match.

But unfortunately, Mbappe and Dembele only entered as substitutes and of course, this method is still not optimal for PSG. I personally cannot imagine, how PSG without Mbappe, then it is very likely that PSG will always be difficult to make goals in every match. So, considering Mbappe agreed to his new contract, it is appropriate for Enrique to maximize Mbappe from now on. Because after all, PSG must prepare a stable performance before entering the Champion League phase later.

Mbappe and Dembele entered in the second half but there weren't many changes they could make, this is really very sad to see PSG's start to the season so bad, the first 2 matches without a win and even the performance of this team is quite bad on all fronts.
I think it's not the time for the team coach to try different strategies, the competition has started and Luis Enrique should have prepared this team to perform optimally.
I am very disappointed with PSG's performance in these 2 weeks, I don't know whether Luis Enrique can be considered a failure or not but what is clear is that he is fully responsible for these 2 very bad starts.

With PSG's poor performance, the players who don't have a strong chemistry and the team play that doesn't go well I think will make Mbappe think again about staying in this team, Mbappe doesn't have a suitable tandem anymore, Neymar and Messi have left, so I think for his career advancement he also has to go.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 20, 2023, 10:16:38 AM

I still can't stop thinking how it is possible for Lyon to suffer a crushing defeat at home to Montpellier with a score of 1-4. Even though statistically Lyon are so dominating and Montpellier seems to often let go when they enter Lyon's defense area, this is evidenced by a total of 8 shots on target. I think Lyon's defense is really bad and the goalkeeper can't do much even though he managed to make 4 saves. Lately, Lyon has experienced a decline in performance, they should be able to win against a team whose quality is quite far below them, but Lyon has been unable to overcome this. Last week they also lost against Strasbourg and Lyon should have been able to win in that match but they had to accept the harsh reality of the current defeat.

Lyon's defeat to Montpellier didn't really surprise me, but what did surprise me was when the score was so crushing. Even though Lyon played with 10 men in the last 10 minutes, it can't be used as an excuse because they were already 2 goals behind the visiting club.
I agree with you that Lyon's defense did not work so well, and not only defense, their midfield also did not work well, making it easy for Montpellier to penetrate directly into the defense area built by Lyon. There must be an evaluation in their defense and midfield.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 20, 2023, 10:16:38 AM

I still can't stop thinking how it is possible for Lyon to suffer a crushing defeat at home to Montpellier with a score of 1-4. Even though statistically Lyon are so dominating and Montpellier seems to often let go when they enter Lyon's defense area, this is evidenced by a total of 8 shots on target. I think Lyon's defense is really bad and the goalkeeper can't do much even though he managed to make 4 saves. Lately, Lyon has experienced a decline in performance, they should be able to win against a team whose quality is quite far below them, but Lyon has been unable to overcome this. Last week they also lost against Strasbourg and Lyon should have been able to win in that match but they had to accept the harsh reality of the current defeat.

I did not expect Lyon to beat Montpellier because they have a good defensive line even though their midfield is a bit weak; they drew their first match against Le Havre, therefore I expect them to play at least a draw against Lyon because Lyon is defensively weak.

Winning Lyon by four goals away from home is a great advantage for them considering Lyon has been the winning team in their last four matches they played together. This clearly shows that Lyon is not a strong opponent this season, and if they did not consider strengthening their team before the window closed, they might end up in the relegation zone.

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It seems, Enrique is still trying some strategies by not playing Mbappe and Dembele in the starting eleven in the match against Toulouse with a 1-1 draw. Even, I really expect PSG to be able to win big in the match because are Dembele and Mbappe in the PSG squad in this match.

But unfortunately, Mbappe and Dembele only entered as substitutes and of course, this method is still not optimal for PSG. I personally cannot imagine, how PSG without Mbappe, then it is very likely that PSG will always be difficult to make goals in every match. So, considering Mbappe agreed to his new contract, it is appropriate for Enrique to maximize Mbappe from now on. Because after all, PSG must prepare a stable performance before entering the Champion League phase later.

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Quote from: snipie on August 20, 2023, 09:59:58 AM

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It's just an unbelievable! A football club would prioritize building a team around Mbappe and leaves Messi, thinking they'll win the Champions League trophies? Despite all the controversies, we can't ignore the truth. They're in for a surprise. I hope they learn a tough lesson this season. In today's match against Toulouse, Mbappe's goal didn't secure a win for psg; it only managed a draw instead of losing points. The club has a big issue, and it's not going away anytime soon.

One person doesn't guarantee that he can be the saviour of his team every time. Messi failed to do it with Barcelona and Mbappe will never be able to do it. PSG problems are quite chronic now with their fluctuating strategy that depended on big names that were not that helpful and now they are turning into recruiting french players to consolidate the team. Although the money spent and the good players they have, PSG still waste points..
In today's match, Lille, Brest and Reims won their games and Nice ended its match with a draw vs Lorient. The place of the "used to be" top teams in the table right now is incredible.

Luis Enrique is really under pressure, it is very difficult to describe the current situation of the PSG squad. Two consecutive draws are not results that match the composition of a squad full of stars, I think the player's adaptation process is running in place when looking at these results. Mbappe is back, but can only score goals from penalty kicks, new signing Dembele is also unable to contribute to PSG.

Enrique said after the game that his squad had made too many mistakes and I could see the players' focus was not fully realized. After being immersed in transfer market speculation, PSG have not been able to win a match in Ligue 1, somehow they can step up in the UCL.

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Quote from: rojan on August 20, 2023, 12:57:36 AM

In the French Soccer League Toulouse vs PSG two-team match, many games were played before halftime. However, neither team could score a goal before halftime. The players of both teams tried hard to score. However, after halftime, the players of both teams scored 1 goal each. In the match Neither team could win. After watching the PSG team play I thought maybe PSG team will play well and win the match but due to their poor performance they did not win the match they drew and shared the points.

After watching PSG play Toulouse, I became aware of yet another unexpected development in the game of football. When Fulham rejected a Mitrovic offer, I believed they had the upper hand. However, one is forced to pause given the strength and resources of Arab teams. Despite Mitrovic's excellent performance for Fulham last season, the fact that he seemed destined for the Saudi Professional League didn't surprise me. It is difficult for teams like Fulham to score goals when quality European players leave, especially in the attack. I do wonder, though, if these decisions are done purely for financial reasons or because of the allure of a different league. It's odd, to put it mildly.

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I still can't stop thinking how it is possible for Lyon to suffer a crushing defeat at home to Montpellier with a score of 1-4. Even though statistically Lyon are so dominating and Montpellier seems to often let go when they enter Lyon's defense area, this is evidenced by a total of 8 shots on target. I think Lyon's defense is really bad and the goalkeeper can't do much even though he managed to make 4 saves. Lately, Lyon has experienced a decline in performance, they should be able to win against a team whose quality is quite far below them, but Lyon has been unable to overcome this. Last week they also lost against Strasbourg and Lyon should have been able to win in that match but they had to accept the harsh reality of the current defeat.

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 20, 2023, 08:55:31 AM

It's just an unbelievable! A football club would prioritize building a team around Mbappe and leaves Messi, thinking they'll win the Champions League trophies? Despite all the controversies, we can't ignore the truth. They're in for a surprise. I hope they learn a tough lesson this season. In today's match against Toulouse, Mbappe's goal didn't secure a win for psg; it only managed a draw instead of losing points. The club has a big issue, and it's not going away anytime soon.

One person doesn't guarantee that he can be the saviour of his team every time. Messi failed to do it with Barcelona and Mbappe will never be able to do it. PSG problems are quite chronic now with their fluctuating strategy that depended on big names that were not that helpful and now they are turning into recruiting french players to consolidate the team. Although the money spent and the good players they have, PSG still waste points..
In today's match, Lille, Brest and Reims won their games and Nice ended its match with a draw vs Lorient. The place of the "used to be" top teams in the table right now is incredible.

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Quote from: rojan on August 20, 2023, 12:57:36 AM

In the French Soccer League Toulouse vs PSG two-team match, many games were played before halftime. However, neither team could score a goal before halftime. The players of both teams tried hard to score. However, after halftime, the players of both teams scored 1 goal each. In the match Neither team could win. After watching the PSG team play I thought maybe PSG team will play well and win the match but due to their poor performance they did not win the match they drew and shared the points.

Only getting two points from two matches is not a good thing for a club that has spent quite a lot of money in the transfer market. Goals from both teams have only come from the penalty spot.
From the statistics of this match, PSG managed to control more than 75% of the ball's possession and were able to make 16 shots at the opponent's goal, unfortunately, only 3 of them were on target, which was not much different from what Toulouse could do, even though this team was only able to get very few balls to attack.
Their next game will be against Lens, and it will be a more difficult game for PSG to win, but if they fail to get 3 points then it should be a worry because losing a lot of points will make it very difficult for them to be able to defend the title. However, from the results of the match, PSG are certainly happy that Mbappe is back in action because they still really need Mbappe.

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