Topic: Full transparency on the forum? Why not? - page 2. (Read 643 times)

Full transparency can be hazardous.

Let's say, hypothetically, you are a follower of a user. And that user does a lots of giveaways and you participate in them. You also win a lot from them.

But lately, that user started to spam the forum. Would you report them if you know that the person will know you reported making your chances in his/her future giveaways less?? You won't want that.

We have opaque reporting system only because so we can report spammers without getting ourselves targeted. And if the report is accurate for what it's being reported for, then the mods will take appropriate actions by removing or not removing them in their capacity.

It's like anonymous reporting which is good.

Some great contributions here.

Excellent work. Except for that shit stain suchmoon who I have reported once again, like that last 4 or 5 times that dumb fuck has spammed my threads with demands to cease a legitimate and sensible discussion and it has been marked bad each and every time.

So yes it should be transparent which slime ball cunt rag of a mod is permitting people to demand discussion is halted in legitimate threads.

In the previous threads that were all highly valuable and legitimate this behaviour has been permitted.
If anyone else did this and targeted other members threads with spam and demands to cease the discussion it would be removed.

Now getting back to sensible and cordial civilised discussions on these matters.  

Lets first tackle the transparent polls.

Why would you not wish people to see which option you voted for?
Would that not be tantamount to being sneaky and devious ?
Give me an example of why you would not personally wish the forum view which option you have selected on a poll

If there are negatives to a suggested action that does not mean the action is not optimal.
There may be greater negatives for inaction. There are many reasons why polls are lacking in credibility here and they relate to the fact they are anonymous.

To poor deranged tool suggesting this is the same as revealing RL data or kyc please find another thread where your moronic slobbering will be appreciated by the sound of clapping seal flippers as you toss your putrid rotten fish comments out at will.

If you want people want to give their honest opinions out and have them given credibility why be afraid to stand behind them ?
If your opinion is credible and you truly believe it's a reasonable opinion to have then why fear scrutiny and examination ?

Same for this crying about I don't want people to see I report their posts?
Why not? If the forum was moderated correctly then you need not fear reprisals from anyone.

You can either post the on topic relevant truth or points you can corroborate strongly with independently verifiable evidence or you can be deleted. I mean what is there to fear?

If you have no dirt in your post history then how ever hard people look for it there will be nothing for them to leverage against you.
If there is dirt to use against you then you have no fears.

Anyway people can object to any truths that you post and decide they wish to make you an enemy and try any tricks they can to get you banned or ruin your trust rating or starve you of merit.  So then you must fear what you can post but rely on sneaky devious tactics claiming around in the dark to dare express your true feelings and opinions.

There is indisputable evidence of mod bias that is never attended to unless we can all go around slapping warning pictures demanding debates are ended whilst not being able to demonstrate why they are not valid or reasonable debates to have.

That is clear mod bias.

I expect you would find the same mods and reporters colluding and punishing certain members.
Let's make it transparent.

If you want to take an action here against another member why need to be sneaky about it?
Either it was the correct action which you can defend successfully in open debate or you shouldn't be taking it.

Mods and DT especially should have their actions made transparent. You want positions of trust then let's make sure you're trustworthy.
Sneaky little shits all shirking any accountability and fearing public scrutiny. Disgusting.

Anyway focus on the polls first.

Want credible polls make them transparent. I think it would be a nice way to sniff out alts and collusion too.
If you're voting in away that makes you ashamed or reveals who you really are then tough.

There is no excuse saying you fear reprisals for your actions.  If you've got no dirt in your past and are not going around pushing undeniable double standards what have you to fear here from anyone. This is an anonymous forum.  

You post on topic relevant and credible and useful information or it is removed right? Same rules for everyone.
You are honest and don't scam or you are a scammer and get tagged and flagged right? Oh yeah that's wrong forgot it works the other way sometimes with scammers tagging and flagging members that whistle blow on them.

Mods are not there to allow a one sided and debunked narrative to be dominant by removing on topic relevant and independently verifiable evidence from threads depriving the reader of locating the truth right? Do their job then nothing to fear.

You fear having your actions made transparent or have any other excuses let me know. I will help resolve your reservations.

Polls first.

I don't think it makes sense.

• If your report is failed, solved as bad and rejected by moderator who takes it, you are able to make another report. There are moderators who have specific boards as their main roles when moderate the forum and their allocated boards but there are odds that if you re-report, that case can be taken by another moderator or even by global moderators.
• If there are serious things need to be solved with your reports, you can bring it to Meta. I see global moderators (among three ones) step in and give more details very often.
• Provides such information can give sources for bad people to do character assassination that is harmful, generally.

Why are you asking the same questions and expecting different results? It would be a nightmare if things like this were public. In real life do you get to see who everyone voted for or who grassed you up to the police? Of course not. There's a reason why you need some privacy and it should be up to the individual if they want to share that info with you. People would be worried to report posts if it was public and the same goes for mods handling them. If a post is against the rules it should be reported and people shouldn't have to fear reprisals for doing so. If it's against the rules then a mod will handle it; if not, it will either be marked as bad or left alone. If you feel like your posts are being targeted either by users of staff then state your case in Meta and they will be looked into.

I think its transparent already. Moderators are assigned per boards so if the post on that particular board has been deleted it is safe to assume that the person handling that section is the one deleted it.

I like the idea but theymos built the forum trustint those assigned moderator for a reason. There is no case that they have been biased so far with their action.  Of course the one allowed to more boards are those assigned as global moderators which is I believe capable of the judgement for some reports.

  Yeah.  Let's do this!  Full transparency.
What's your name, date of birth and current address?  You go first. This would reduce the number of alt accounts to zero.

Jamaican Fried Chicken... not this shit again. Did some mod delete cryptohunter's post again? HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!

Or it could make some members become targets especially post reporters or even the mods who delete the posts. Certain times some people become bitter when their posts get deleted. Imagine what happens when they get to know people who have been reporting or mods who have deleted their posts. It would cause more chaos and hatred, wouldn't it?

Also knowing the reporters, mods and poll voters would create some sort of bias in different aspects among members.

Reporting posts successfully is what's stopping them...

Even on the report screen it shows a message saying it doesn't want you to reflect on your reporting accuracy...

Transparent polls sounds like a problem in general. Sure you could have an option for it here or you could just ask people to write what they voted for (the solids and some of the swingers would write it, the rest could be assumed to be swing voters or just not want to say)... Why force it?

Why not make a few things fully transparent here?

Post reporter

You see who reports what posts

Mod dealing with report

You see which mod deleted the post or marked it bad

Poll votes

See how people voted on polls
Could even be optional for the polls starter and warning given to those voting
I would prefer all polls were transparent no other option personally.

What reasons not to do this?

I think it would help members and mods act more responsibly.