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Topic: FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Hubs Thread - page 4. (Read 4280 times)

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December 29, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
#91
I'm running ten ML2 on Sipolar A400. Prefer Antminer L3+ but too loud to use at home or work. Don't they make mufflers for these things or something super quiet?
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December 28, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
#90

Cool, mine is still in the post, so how many moonlanders are you going to try?

If you take off the fans, you can run an extra row to the sipolar - just be sure to have some active cooling on them.
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December 28, 2017, 01:10:05 AM
#89
$65 from directly from sipolar in China and it just got delivered, I'm on the east coast.  Seems like a great deal.

I ordered one over the weekend, for about 1/2 the price here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.0.0.8O4DWG&orderId=88528809006859&productId=32513481750

$45 USD, shipping is a crazy $20 USD, but still way cheap total.  Shipping will take a bit, but I think it is worth the wait.



Cool, mine is still in the post, so how many moonlanders are you going to try?
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December 27, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
#88
$65 from directly from sipolar in China and it just got delivered, I'm on the east coast.  Seems like a great deal.

I ordered one over the weekend, for about 1/2 the price here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.0.0.8O4DWG&orderId=88528809006859&productId=32513481750

$45 USD, shipping is a crazy $20 USD, but still way cheap total.  Shipping will take a bit, but I think it is worth the wait.


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December 26, 2017, 09:59:41 AM
#87


Also been looking at Sipolar hubs to have a neater package with more Moonlanders. Is there any need/advantage for mining to have usb 3.0 instead of 2.0?




Very little advantage to USB 3 for USB miners. They don't need the fast data transfer, but many USB3 hubs have extra power, so that's always nice.
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December 26, 2017, 09:42:58 AM
#86

This makes my brain hurt.

$60 USB stick that makes $3/month.

$165 hub to run them.

20 Sticks = $1200

USB hub = $165

Monthly Profit $60

You are looking at a 2 year ROI if LTC price keeps rising a bunch.



Or For a similar investment you can buy an L3+ and ROI in 4 months


Why would anyone buy this junk?

 basicly zero power usage






I have some friends who have ordered a bunch who want to mine, but don't have a space where they can run a full sized industrial miner.

I have dead solid eyeboot Hub = $0
I am running a paid for pc that earns 1 dollar a day after power with its gpu.

Sticks  are 60-65.  I run 2 at  this pool

http://ltc.tbdice.org/users.htm


LWdix...uDYH8   Self   8.78M / 0.009%   8.5M / 0.242%   8.47M / 0.301%   8.5M / 0.293%   6.89M / 0.308%   18.66656


So I have a shot at a block of LTC and or a Block of Doge

At  A cost of 125 usd 

Meanwhile buy a L3+

Hot fairly loud  and it will break in under 2 years.

My stick will mine on  and one day they will pop a block.

I am fine with this.
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December 26, 2017, 08:01:03 AM
#85

This makes my brain hurt.

$60 USB stick that makes $3/month.

$165 hub to run them.

20 Sticks = $1200

USB hub = $165

Monthly Profit $60

You are looking at a 2 year ROI if LTC price keeps rising a bunch.



Or For a similar investment you can buy an L3+ and ROI in 4 months


Why would anyone buy this junk?

 basicly zero power usage






I have some friends who have ordered a bunch who want to mine, but don't have a space where they can run a full sized industrial miner.
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December 24, 2017, 06:02:59 AM
#84
I have got my modified (Frankenstein!) hub working with 3x Moonlanders (pics to follow)


Also been looking at Sipolar hubs to have a neater package with more Moonlanders. Is there any need/advantage for mining to have usb 3.0 instead of 2.0?


119 to UK - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Charger-Super-Speed-20-port-USB-Hub-with-USB-3-0-Data-built-in-power/32794175603.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.262.qBX5s2

139 same seller (delivered from china) - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sipolar-Charge-Refurbish-iPhone-Cellphone-Black/dp/B01KPOEX9O/ref=sr_1_30?m=A36KROY216FS0W&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1514112545&sr=1-30

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December 22, 2017, 06:51:13 AM
#83
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

UPDATE (and a WARNING!) :  I'm now running 5x moonlanders at clock=756 on the plugable 7 port usb 3 hub and my meter is showing power usage (for the hub alone) at 53.08w, i personally wouldn't like to try running 6x as this will exceed the rating of 60w (12v x 5a) so you're running the risk of overload, over heat / maybe fire etc.  I can confirm it's stable though Smiley  Time for a new hub...




Ha. I've got 6 up and running, but that adaptor is white hot. Didn't check the meter, but suspect you're right.../

edit - Yes, I've got c. 54w running 5 @ 768. Had 63.8w with 6, which is toooo much. Stolen the ebay idea of yours, looks good, and thanks...


Cool - let us know how you get on. I've got 10x of these on the way to (5x left / 5x right) to help with spacing..

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282430334062
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December 22, 2017, 04:38:16 AM
#82
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

UPDATE (and a WARNING!) :  I'm now running 5x moonlanders at clock=756 on the plugable 7 port usb 3 hub and my meter is showing power usage (for the hub alone) at 53.08w, i personally wouldn't like to try running 6x as this will exceed the rating of 60w (12v x 5a) so you're running the risk of overload, over heat / maybe fire etc.  I can confirm it's stable though Smiley  Time for a new hub...




Ha. I've got 6 up and running, but that adaptor is white hot. Didn't check the meter, but suspect you're right.../

edit - Yes, I've got c. 54w running 5 @ 768. Had 63.8w with 6, which is toooo much. Stolen the ebay idea of yours, looks good, and thanks...
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December 22, 2017, 02:23:30 AM
#81
Just found a supplier & ordered one of these, will report back when it turns up and it's running...

Sipolar A-400 , 10 ports 2.1A:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332495539450
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December 21, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
#80
I ordered one over the weekend, for about 1/2 the price here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.0.0.8O4DWG&orderId=88528809006859&productId=32513481750

$45 USD, shipping is a crazy $20 USD, but still way cheap total.  Shipping will take a bit, but I think it is worth the wait.


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December 21, 2017, 04:09:33 PM
#79
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

UPDATE (and a WARNING!) :  I'm now running 5x moonlanders at clock=756 on the plugable 7 port usb 3 hub and my meter is showing power usage (for the hub alone) at 53.08w, i personally wouldn't like to try running 6x as this will exceed the rating of 60w (12v x 5a) so you're running the risk of overload, over heat / maybe fire etc.  I can confirm it's stable though Smiley  Time for a new hub...

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December 20, 2017, 04:36:21 AM
#78

     I can't speak for the 10 port but I have two of the sipolar a223 20 port hubs and they are working well for me and the way the ports are laid out on the a223 you can actually fit 12 moonlanders.
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December 19, 2017, 07:43:29 PM
#77
If you see the tty devices then try running it with sudo.

Could be just a permissions thing

Holy crap!  I was not launching my miner with sudo!  That is probably it, cuz I could see the devices with lsusb.  Welp the devil is in the details.  I'll try that and report back.

Thanks again!

Welp turned out to be a permissions thing, I'm up and running.   Thanks!

Nice one!
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December 19, 2017, 12:52:12 PM
#76
If you see the tty devices then try running it with sudo.

Could be just a permissions thing

Holy crap!  I was not launching my miner with sudo!  That is probably it, cuz I could see the devices with lsusb.  Welp the devil is in the details.  I'll try that and report back.

Thanks again!

Welp turned out to be a permissions thing, I'm up and running.   Thanks!
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December 19, 2017, 12:27:39 PM
#75
I ordered a sipolar A-400.  I think it will handle 10 moonlanders just fine. 

For now I have two running at ~4.7Mh on my laptop
https://imgur.com/a/yhh5X

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December 19, 2017, 07:03:49 AM
#74
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

Yes indeed. As a side note, I used these 90-deg adaptors http://amzn.to/2yXp5Ba so the ports that were blocked are accessible. Should have got the left hand version really (for the hub to be right way up) but the build quality seems pretty good.


I went with these 30cm ones, cable seems thick enough..

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282430334062
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December 19, 2017, 07:03:03 AM
#73
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

Yes indeed. As a side note, I used these 90-deg adaptors http://amzn.to/2yXp5Ba so the ports that were blocked are accessible. Should have got the left hand version really (for the hub to be right way up) but the build quality seems pretty good.


For NA region, here are some left/right adapters I bought for my setup, I have not yet tested these - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CQN57L0
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