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December 19, 2017, 08:01:10 AM
#72
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.

Yes indeed. As a side note, I used these 90-deg adaptors http://amzn.to/2yXp5Ba so the ports that were blocked are accessible. Should have got the left hand version really (for the hub to be right way up) but the build quality seems pretty good.
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December 19, 2017, 07:58:48 AM
#71
I bought the plugable budget hub in the first post and I am gifting someone 2 of these Moonlander 2s so they can mine scrypt coins

The several others I have coming for the 2 Eyeboot hubs I have coming will be used to mine other scrypt altcoins.

I read some negative remarks in this thread about why people buy these and thought I would share my thoughts in an effort to help those who have FUD opinions understand why these things are great in my opinion.

Simple Answer:- I can mine 100+MH scrypt with a bag full of these and only use at most 160 watts of power and I can dedicate some to one scrypt altcoin while others mine something completely different.

People right now are paying $600-$800 for A2 Terminators that mine 110MH and use ~1100w. People are paying $100-$200 for Gridseed miners that do 5.5MH and use ~100w.

So I have a few choices if I want to mine some worthless scrypt coin that I think will be worthwhile later...

An A2 terminator @1100watts that can only mine 1 coin at a time directly or a bag full of these USB miners that can mine several (seemingly) worthless scrypt coins (that might have some value someday) at once.

Is it a risk for me to invest in these with this plan? Yes. Is there mitigated risk in buying one or several of these? You bet. The Moonlanders resell (not that I'm interested in reselling the ones I have coming) for more than what they are being sold for but in my opinion these devices will have a lot of value for years to come as new scrypt coins emerge.

In Summary, "value" can have many meanings when it comes to this device and if it was "Junk" - I wouldn't be buying it. Tongue


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December 19, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
#70
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!

Ok. I have three more in the post on top of the four I have connected now.  I think it's just a matter of speed & amps that each one draws in order to get all seven running.  From my post on page two if this thread I think (in theory) we have 1.71a to play with per port...

"If you were to split all 7 ports up equally and assuming 100% efficiency you could in theory draw about 1.71A per port."

What we could do with is accurate amp / speed table for these.
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Activity: 357
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December 19, 2017, 06:55:04 AM
#69
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?

I'm aiming for 6, 2 more sticks in the post. Running at 720 at the moment, stable, 4MHs per stick. Can obviously go higher, sink temps at mid 60's... Will post what happens with 6!
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December 18, 2017, 10:25:48 PM
#68
No luck with the Anker 10 port. It ran 2 sticks flawlessly at 954mhz, but it can't do 3 at that speed, 900mhz is the best I can get out of it. Slower speeds it will run more, but that's not what I am looking for.
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December 18, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
#67
Modified Tripp-Lite 10 port hub

Here are some photos of my modified 10 port hub, wire soldered on power
tracks to top of caps solder points.
With the wire mod and 5vdc @ 10amp supply can get 5Mh per unit (Freq=876, D=1024)
This is the max I would set at as cooling becomes a issue and life cycle of chip maybe effected?
Any hub should work long as enough current can be supplied to each usb port to meet the miners demands.

Tripp-Lite 10 port hub:


Modified power rails:


Hardwired to circuit board:


25Mh, x5 usb miner hashrate:


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December 18, 2017, 03:10:49 PM
#66
What do you guys think of this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Sipolar-Desktop-Charging-Station-Charger/dp/B01K4MZQJ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1513537668&sr=1-1&keywords=sipolar+A-400

12V*10A, that is 120w right?  should easily run ~10 moonlander 2?  It says it can do up to 2.1A per port.  Seems like a good price for a hub that can handle 10.  Am I missing something(again)?

I've got my eye on that one, thinking of giving it a try for a small project that I have in mind. I don't have any Moonlanders (yet), so I won't be able to test with them initially.
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December 18, 2017, 02:34:29 PM
#65
If you see the tty devices then try running it with sudo.

Could be just a permissions thing

Holy crap!  I was not launching my miner with sudo!  That is probably it, cuz I could see the devices with lsusb.  Welp the devil is in the details.  I'll try that and report back.

Thanks again!
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December 18, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
#64
If you see the tty devices then try running it with sudo.

Could be just a permissions thing
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December 18, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
#63
I would check /var/log/messages for any messages and also look for /dev/tty* devices ?


I'll give that a shot tonight, thanks!
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December 18, 2017, 01:53:36 PM
#62
I would check /var/log/messages for any messages and also look for /dev/tty* devices ?
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December 18, 2017, 01:44:20 PM
#61
Yep latest image from about 2 months ago.

EDIT: what hub are you using ?

Sipolar A-223.  What confuses me is that they work under Mich's provided minera image, but they don't work under raspian-stretch or ubuntu-mate.  I'll fire up bfgminer and it will return "no devices detected, waiting for devices."  I'm a little stumped.  I'm pretty sure I added the relevant dependencies, hopefully someone can provide a little insight.
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December 18, 2017, 07:59:06 AM
#60
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://[Suspicious link removed]/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.


I have the same setup, you going to try 5x ? Also what speeds you running ?
member
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December 18, 2017, 07:48:50 AM
#59
Just a quick note for Moonlander folk in UK and Europe - Am currently using this Plugable 7-port hub with x4 sticks, running fine so far: http://amzn.to/2zkGMOu

Tried this Orico number: http://amzn.to/2jdmoGn failed at more than two.



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December 18, 2017, 01:42:42 AM
#58
Yep latest image from about 2 months ago.

EDIT: what hub are you using ?
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December 17, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
#57
My first moonlander 2 just turned up ! Smiley all working. This is a picture of my setup:

https://imgur.com/a/U68EH

Consists of:

1) Raspberry PI 3 with official Rapsberry PI 3 power supply
2) Cheap USB 2.0 7 port hub - Pluscom Model u7PH-3A (not using the power supply as the Pi seems to be enough for this) cascaded into:
3) Plugable USB 3.0 7 port Hub (inc 12V 5A 60w psu) - Model: USB3-HUB7BC

3 more are in the post in the way so will be testing more plugged into the same when i can (going to try and do 7x all at the time time via extension cables)

Been running now for about an hour now litecoinpool reporting hashing at 3,498kH/s (so far so good!)

Boom! Smiley

UPDATE:. This is still running plus I've now expanded it to use 4x moonlanders at 756 speed.  One is using a USB extension cable but seems to be ok. All getting around 4,492 kH/s from litecoinpool

Are you using raspian stretch?  My moonlander are not being detected under stretch.
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December 17, 2017, 03:13:00 PM
#56
dude, you a correct.  wattage is too low.

What do you guys think of this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Sipolar-Desktop-Charging-Station-Charger/dp/B01K4MZQJ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1513537668&sr=1-1&keywords=sipolar+A-400

12V*10A, that is 120w right?  should easily run ~10 moonlander 2?  It says it can do up to 2.1A per port.  Seems like a good price for a hub that can handle 10.  Am I missing something(again)?



Fyi guys, this hub will definitely for four moonlanders.  It should be able to power four as well, just need to get my hands on a few more to test out the power.


Are you making an apples to oranges comparison maybe, focused on the amperage but not the voltage? That says the PS is 5V 4A, which is only 20W. Can't see that being anywhere near enough for 4 unless they are running at a very low frequency.
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December 17, 2017, 11:32:32 AM
#55
My first moonlander 2 just turned up ! Smiley all working. This is a picture of my setup:

https://imgur.com/a/U68EH

Consists of:

1) Raspberry PI 3 with official Rapsberry PI 3 power supply
2) Cheap USB 2.0 7 port hub - Pluscom Model u7PH-3A (not using the power supply as the Pi seems to be enough for this) cascaded into:
3) Plugable USB 3.0 7 port Hub (inc 12V 5A 60w psu) - Model: USB3-HUB7BC

3 more are in the post in the way so will be testing more plugged into the same when i can (going to try and do 7x all at the time time via extension cables)

Been running now for about an hour now litecoinpool reporting hashing at 3,498kH/s (so far so good!)

Boom! Smiley

UPDATE:. This is still running plus I've now expanded it to use 4x moonlanders at 756 speed.  One is using a USB extension cable but seems to be ok. All getting around 4,492 kH/s from litecoinpool
newbie
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December 15, 2017, 06:02:00 AM
#54
How easy would it be to add data lines to all 10 USB ports instead of just the 4 in this hub?

http://www.enlvsun.com/Products/Smart10portsUSBcharg.html#.WjOcfGKnyEc

Or add a data connection to this charging hub? Spacing looks good for Moonlanders

http://www.enlvsun.com/Products/60WUSBACChargerwith1.html#.WjOdUWKnyEc
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December 11, 2017, 09:32:50 PM
#53
Fyi guys, this hub will definitely for four moonlanders.  It should be able to power four as well, just need to get my hands on a few more to test out the power.


Are you making an apples to oranges comparison maybe, focused on the amperage but not the voltage? That says the PS is 5V 4A, which is only 20W. Can't see that being anywhere near enough for 4 unless they are running at a very low frequency.
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