i asked the developers in our private forum to come here to sort out the problem. this is what tzpardi answered:
"I stated in my above post that I terminated the discussion for the described reasons. We finished the discussion in an amicable manner and we wished good luck to each other with David. Even we said to each other politely that we might restart the discussion in the future. I really can't imagine what could be the problem right now. I am not sure what you guys are discussing at that forum about this topic, but could you guys please manage the discussion without grabbing us into it, so we can focus on our work."
everything is cool, there is nothing wrong David, calm down!!!!!!!!!
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Trust me no one ever said that the potential for collaboration was over. There just isn't a clear reason to collaborate at this time.
And I am pointing out that this was arbitrarily decided based on us not responding immediately. I just don't have time to give this more attention.
Its not based on your response time. There just isn't a great reason to collaborate at this time. As you know that is just how business works, it doesn't at all mean there will never be collaboration.
Again this is false given what T Z P has said since day 1. I ask for his permission to share his response to my msg from yesterday where he again wants more details, but since I didn't respond immediately 'shut it down'. But from this display of dishonesty it's increasingly guaranteeing no future collaboration.
Trust me no one ever said that the potential for collaboration was over. There just isn't a clear reason to collaborate at this time.
And I am pointing out that this was arbitrarily decided based on us not responding immediately. I just don't have time to give this more attention.
Its not based on your response time. There just isn't a great reason to collaborate at this time. As you know that is just how business works, it doesn't at all mean there will never be collaboration.
Trust me no one ever said that the potential for collaboration was over. There just isn't a clear reason to collaborate at this time.
And I am pointing out that this was arbitrarily decided based on us not responding immediately. I just don't have time to give this more attention.
please check the private forum!!! tzpardi informed the community that won't be collaboration with IOTA. they couldn't work out the details. they couldn't work out the scope of work and what could be gained from a collaboration.
Just to be sure: this is 100% fallicious and I demand that TZP come in here and clear up this misinformation.
I offered TZP and Gadget collaboration from day 1, don't forget that WE were the ones that reached out to collaborate even though we were being bombarded by trolls from the Gadget community that saw IOTA as a threat. WE extended that olive branch, even though WE were the ones with funding and media exposure. WE had no problem sharing this. I have offered funding opportunities, marketing, networking, presentation opportunities, Proof of Concept collaborative software etc. repeatedly, last time YESTERDAY, but then I had to keep working on running IOTA and our start-up so I couldn't respond to his reply IMMEDIATELY, which for the 10th time lead him to 'cancel negotiations'. I also encouraged TZP several times to invite the entire Gadget team into our IOTA Ryver so that we could get a organic dialogue going, which he refused to do. In my opinion this was his biggest error, it's really hard to run things efficiently when there is a such a tight bottleneck of 1 person acting as the mediator at all times.
I had informed TZP numerous times that we are: finalizing everything in preparation for beta and subsequent launch through initial testing, setting up nodes, finishing GUI, doing interviews like this one: http://cointelegraph.com/news/iota-beta-internet-of-things , preparing presentations for several upcoming events like this one at Google's HQ in Tel Aviv: http://www.meetup.com/Internet-Of-Things-IoT-Israel/events/227649870/ , answering countless questions in the forum, in PMs, on Skype, in Ryver, talks with several big companies that are interested in the technology, setting up new website and creating infographics etc. etc. etc. This is on top of our hardware start-up that needs to be ran daily. So AS I HAVE TOLD HIM countless times: we are not able to respond within 60 minutes at all times, which he isn't either. At first he said he had no problem with this, but every single time he would start pulling out if we didn't respond immediately in the fashion of "Ok so I cancel this" yadayada.
Sorry, but this is not how you conduct yourself in serious negotiations in a professional collaboration. I will never leak private conversations, but he can confirm that I offered
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Of course what you guys got to gain is our connections, marketing, potential funding opportunities and synergy between Gadget layer and IOTA layer
yesterday to his question of what Gadget would get in return.It's unfortunate that TZP decided to arbitrarily end this collaboration, but we wish you guys the best.
Trust me no one ever said that the potential for collaboration was over. There just isn't a clear reason to collaborate at this time.
please check the private forum!!! tzpardi informed the community that won't be collaboration with IOTA. they couldn't work out the details. they couldn't work out the scope of work and what could be gained from a collaboration.
Just to be sure: this is 100% fallicious and I demand that TZP come in here and clear up this misinformation.
I offered TZP and Gadget collaboration from day 1, don't forget that WE were the ones that reached out to collaborate even though we were being bombarded by trolls from the Gadget community that saw IOTA as a threat. WE extended that olive branch, even though WE were the ones with funding and media exposure. WE had no problem sharing this. I have offered funding opportunities, marketing, networking, presentation opportunities, Proof of Concept collaborative software etc. repeatedly, last time YESTERDAY, but then I had to keep working on running IOTA and our start-up so I couldn't respond to his reply IMMEDIATELY, which for the 10th time lead him to 'cancel negotiations'. I also encouraged TZP several times to invite the entire Gadget team into our IOTA Ryver so that we could get a organic dialogue going, which he refused to do. In my opinion this was his biggest error, it's really hard to run things efficiently when there is a such a tight bottleneck of 1 person acting as the mediator at all times.
I had informed TZP numerous times that we are: finalizing everything in preparation for beta and subsequent launch through initial testing, setting up nodes, finishing GUI, doing interviews like this one: http://cointelegraph.com/news/iota-beta-internet-of-things , preparing presentations for several upcoming events like this one at Google's HQ in Tel Aviv: http://www.meetup.com/Internet-Of-Things-IoT-Israel/events/227649870/ , answering countless questions in the forum, in PMs, on Skype, in Ryver, talks with several big companies that are interested in the technology, setting up new website and creating infographics etc. etc. etc. This is on top of our hardware start-up that needs to be ran daily. So AS I HAVE TOLD HIM countless times: we are not able to respond within 60 minutes at all times, which he isn't either. At first he said he had no problem with this, but every single time he would start pulling out if we didn't respond immediately in the fashion of "Ok so I cancel this" yadayada.
Sorry, but this is not how you conduct yourself in serious negotiations in a professional collaboration. I will never leak private conversations, but he can confirm that I offered
Quote
Of course what you guys got to gain is our connections, marketing, potential funding opportunities and synergy between Gadget layer and IOTA layer
yesterday to his question of what Gadget would get in return.It's unfortunate that TZP decided to arbitrarily end this collaboration, but we wish you guys the best.
all he tzpardi said: you and him couldn't work out the scope of work and what could be gained from a collaboration. He never said for us it was your fault, he only said it couldn't worked out. i think he was professional on our private forum, he didn't say a bad word about you. though i will try to get to the bottom of why he felt the discussion is not progressing and cannot be finalized.
please check the private forum!!! tzpardi informed the community that won't be collaboration with IOTA. they couldn't work out the details. they couldn't work out the scope of work and what could be gained from a collaboration.
Just to be sure: this is 100% fallicious and I demand that TZP come in here and clear up this misinformation.
I offered TZP and Gadget collaboration from day 1, don't forget that WE were the ones that reached out to collaborate even though we were being bombarded by trolls from the Gadget community that saw IOTA as a threat. WE extended that olive branch, even though WE were the ones with funding and media exposure. WE had no problem sharing this. I have offered funding opportunities, marketing, networking, presentation opportunities, Proof of Concept collaborative software etc. repeatedly, last time YESTERDAY, but then I had to keep working on running IOTA and our start-up so I couldn't respond to his reply IMMEDIATELY, which for the 10th time lead him to 'cancel negotiations'. I also encouraged TZP several times to invite the entire Gadget team into our IOTA Ryver so that we could get a organic dialogue going, which he refused to do. In my opinion this was his biggest error, it's really hard to run things efficiently when there is a such a tight bottleneck of 1 person acting as the mediator at all times.
I had informed TZP numerous times that we are: finalizing everything in preparation for beta and subsequent launch through initial testing, setting up nodes, finishing GUI, doing interviews like this one: http://cointelegraph.com/news/iota-beta-internet-of-things , preparing presentations for several upcoming events like this one at Google's HQ in Tel Aviv: http://www.meetup.com/Internet-Of-Things-IoT-Israel/events/227649870/ , answering countless questions in the forum, in PMs, on Skype, in Ryver, talks with several big companies that are interested in the technology, setting up new website and creating infographics etc. etc. etc. This is on top of our hardware start-up that needs to be ran daily. So AS I HAVE TOLD HIM countless times: we are not able to respond within 60 minutes at all times, which he isn't either. At first he said he had no problem with this, but every single time he would start pulling out if we didn't respond immediately in the fashion of "Ok so I cancel this" yadayada.
Sorry, but this is not how you conduct yourself in serious negotiations in a professional collaboration. I will never leak private conversations, but he can confirm that I offered
Quote
Of course what you guys got to gain is our connections, marketing, potential funding opportunities and synergy between Gadget layer and IOTA layer
yesterday to his question of what Gadget would get in return.It's unfortunate that TZP decided to arbitrarily end this collaboration, but we wish you guys the best.
please check the private forum!!! tzpardi informed the community that won't be collaboration with IOTA. they couldn't work out the details. they couldn't work out the scope of work and what could be gained from a collaboration.
Anybody has any info on the IOTA collaboration? My next move on this one depends on what they will do with IOTA. Can the developers confirm anything about the IOTA topic?
we discuss this with chocobo, tzpardi, mtomcdev and others on the private forum? why don't you join us to discuss?
I will of course join the discussion there, but we need a public confirmation from the devs about IOTA. They can do this by answering my question.
Anybody has any info on the IOTA collaboration? My next move on this one depends on what they will do with IOTA. Can the developers confirm anything about the IOTA topic?
we discuss this with chocobo, tzpardi, mtomcdev and others on the private forum? why don't you join us to discuss?
Anybody has any info on the IOTA collaboration? My next move on this one depends on what they will do with IOTA. Can the developers confirm anything about the IOTA topic?
Apparently it was too much fight (between me and Come from Beyond) in the thread at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-gdgc-gadgetcoin-iot-m2m-smart-contracts-on-hardware-854280 and the developers have decided to lock it. This is the last lock message from the thread:
The community has voted and decided to lock this thread. Most likely we will reopen it in the near feature as a moderated thread. Please email me at [email protected] or send a message in the wallet to the gdcfoundation account if you have any questions about GadgetCoin. Alternatively, please feel free to PM me here at the BCT forum. I will check my messages regularly. We invite all VICR contract holders to a private forum to continue the discussion about the project. We are releasing the system and start working with clients and businesses to generate revenue. We will keep all VICR contract holders and interested parties updated in the GadgetNet private forum.
DEVELOPERS!
We are recruiting developers to work on the W3C open source intiative at https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework. All type of skill set and expertise are welcomed and will be useful. You need only a Github account to start working on the project. W3C is an influential technology organisation, it defines worldwide standards. Most likely will be the dominant standard for M2M and humans to machine communication. That means your work would make a real difference in a very important software development process. Also, your work will be directly exposed to the world largest companies, the participants of the standardization process.
As a side project you could also work with us on the GadgetNet software development which scope is bigger than the W3C code base, but mirrors most of the W3C source. We are willing to offer share options and eventually salary to the developers who are interested in working with us and can contribute. Please email me at [email protected] if you are interested. Thanks!
I open this thread to discuss all GadgetCoin/GadgetNet related topics in a transparent, unmoderated thread.
The community has voted and decided to lock this thread. Most likely we will reopen it in the near feature as a moderated thread. Please email me at [email protected] or send a message in the wallet to the gdcfoundation account if you have any questions about GadgetCoin. Alternatively, please feel free to PM me here at the BCT forum. I will check my messages regularly. We invite all VICR contract holders to a private forum to continue the discussion about the project. We are releasing the system and start working with clients and businesses to generate revenue. We will keep all VICR contract holders and interested parties updated in the GadgetNet private forum.
DEVELOPERS!
We are recruiting developers to work on the W3C open source intiative at https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework. All type of skill set and expertise are welcomed and will be useful. You need only a Github account to start working on the project. W3C is an influential technology organisation, it defines worldwide standards. Most likely will be the dominant standard for M2M and humans to machine communication. That means your work would make a real difference in a very important software development process. Also, your work will be directly exposed to the world largest companies, the participants of the standardization process.
As a side project you could also work with us on the GadgetNet software development which scope is bigger than the W3C code base, but mirrors most of the W3C source. We are willing to offer share options and eventually salary to the developers who are interested in working with us and can contribute. Please email me at [email protected] if you are interested. Thanks!
I open this thread to discuss all GadgetCoin/GadgetNet related topics in a transparent, unmoderated thread.
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