Topic: Gamblers, what's your opinion about this? - page 3. (Read 383 times)

You can't say it's a lie unless you are saying those who do it are actually lying about it. If people can pay huge money to watch boxing games, slaps competition. Then I believe it's possible for people to say they are gambling for entertainment. Most rich persons don't know what to use their money for. After spending money on alcohol, women, and smoking. Gambling is another option for them. Will you say they are gambling for profit when they already have it?

Its risky trying to win in a game where the house has an edge; in a casino, the longer you play, your chances of winning are low, so if you really want to win cashout when you double your money and not wishing or trying to make it ten times, you have to set where you want to cashout. People are losing because they want more, and greed is the one that motivates them to play more.
When you say gamble for fun, you know your limitation, you enjoy it, and you are ok with losing your allocation.

It's either ways. Once you are not careful of your balance sheer on your wins and losses in gambling, there is an high tendency for bankruptcy.

I have read about a millionaire who became bankrupt through gambling on a thread in this board about last year. At first he was a popular figure in the casino, often get drunk play,have fun and lose a couple of cash (in thousands of dollars) with time he did bankrupt and was shifting blames on the Casino about him getting drunk and wasting  his money on the casino.

The thing about gambling for fun is that many work on becoming better, thereby increasing chances of winning but when we lost, rather than focusing on the lost or getting the money back, which may affects our sense of reasoning and make us lose more, we focus on becoming bitter.  Also, ignoring the urge to stake what we can afford to lost.

No way to deny that the main reason why we are gambling is to make money. We wanted to win rather than lose. But we can't force a gambler to insist that they are doing this for fun. 

Whatever the reason we have before gambling, we all can possibly fall into addiction once we can't control our habits anymore. That is why we can't put this anything as an excuse because the more we spend time gambling, the more likely pushing us into addiction. 

Whether it is for money or just for fun, the most important thing is that we never blame the casino for our losses. 

it is a bit more complicated than a yes and no answer, I mean, people who gamble for money could be more prone to addiction as they are usually a lot more frequent and more focused on gambling but it doesn't mean that people who gamble for money will become addicted, it would still depend from person to person, as for people who gamble for fun, just because they gamble for fun does not mean they are safe from addiction, gambling addiction is a mental illness and it doesn't care if you are gambling for fun or not.

Not necessarily. You can still be enjoying it for fun and get addicted imo. It doesn't matter what your initial goal was, addiction is a sickness that makes you want to keep doing a certain activity over and over again with no regard whatsoever to your own say, safety (I can't find a better term for it lmao). Though i reckon it's much more often that people who aim to win are more often prone to getting addicted, because they visit gambling more than a person who just haves fun and most probably also has better control over their financial status.

And gambling for fun doesn't mean that they want to lose. Yes they still want to win, but see, you're equating that winning == earning money. Personally, I'd say the thrill of winning is separate from earning the rewards, it's like just a sub-part thing. Personally I'm happy if I win. If I get money off of that win, then nice, but it's not necessarily a necessity. Now some may argue why gamble then just play some dice simulator, it's the thrill of risk that makes it "fun".

There are many ways to find fun apart from gambling, many of these activities also have no risk. So, gambling whose sole purpose is to get pleasure is a lie, it must have another purpose or desire to get money (profit) from it. Addiction can come from the happy sensation you get. So, when you lose do you feel happy? of course not right? It is clear that from this simple logic we can know that addiction comes from the intention of someone who gambles to get the full profit from it.

Whether you're gambling for fun or gambling for money, its all about moderation. You should gamble within your means and do not go overboard; you can still get addicted to playing for fun. There are people who do it not to win or to lose but just for the thrill of it.

No gambler is playing to lose; there should be motivation to win, and consistent with your approach, what is not right is spending too much money and too much time to the point that your mind is overwhelmed with gambling; again, moderation plays a factor here.

If you cannot afford losing in gambling, then you run the risk of chasing your losses, spending time trying to regain what you've lost. In life you have to adapt to something that happens naturally, and losing is one of them.

Honestly, when I started gambling as a very young kid, I did it with the main goal of making extra money for my school. Over time, I learned the hard way that gambling isn’t a good or reliable way to make money and chasing those wins was costly for me far more than what I expect, sometimes even things that are more valuable than money for me. Eventually, I decided to stop gambling and start healing after realizing how much it had taken from me.

Now about your question, I think the goal behind gambling plays a big role in how it affects a person to another one. When someone gambles mainly focusing to make money it can lead him to a dangerous cycle of chasing losses and believing that one big win will fix everything. That mindset makes it easier to fall into addiction because the focus is on what at stake rather than the whole experience.

But does gambling just for fun really mean its safe? Not necessarily as you can see in my story. Gambling for fun still involves risks especially if the whole fun becomes an excuse to spend beyond your means. And like you said, even people who gamble for fun are also in a big hope to win. The key difference, I think is how you handle your losses later on. If you gambling for fun and can walk away without emotional distress or financial trouble, that is probably a healthier way than any other gambler out there. But it still requires awareness and limits because the line between fun and regret is very thin.

Gambling is built on risks and regret so the challenge lies in finding balance between enjoying the experience without letting it take control of your life. For me I think stepping away completely was the best way to regain what I have lost all these years.

There is no 100% guarantee that you gamble with the aim of having fun but when at the end of the session you feel dissatisfied while playing and that will encourage gamblers to come back again. I mean everything can be seen from a person's response after gambling: If you can accept defeat with an open heart and not make it a burden on your mind, then it cannot be called an addiction. But on the other hand, if you feel that the gambling that has just been played is still not satisfying, venting emotions and as if you have to deposit again, it means that you are addicted.

Tough question especially for those who are on the brink of thinking they are gambling addicts. But for those who can stop for a day or two without gambling I think they will choose the second one. They are safe because they can still spend a day without it. But those who cannot avoid the urgency to gamble in a day anymore should think about what they are doing. It could be addiction and must be stopped or controlled.

Sure, the aim is always to win but like I said, if you can still take a rest for a day or two that means you are okay. You are not gambling aggressively because you know when to stop and it's a big deal if you lose more money.
It's not okay for them to lose, they are still frustrated but they have the ability to move on fast and not chase the losses. I think that's gambling for fun.

I believe the answer to this has been discussed in many threads relating to gambling for fun or for profit. When you are gambling for money, you can get addicted, and the same thing too when you are gambling for fun. What causes addiction is not the category of gambler you fall under. It is the reason why you are gambling that causes addiction. If the only way you derive fun in life is through gambling that's a solid reason for a gambler to get addicted. For those who gamble to meet ends meet or to sort out many financial problems that's also a solid reason to get addicted.

Just so you know, before addiction comes there must be constant participation in gambling. It is either the gambler is deriving fun continuously or he is busy chasing profits.

I would think of it like this ---- If you only spend under 5% of your monthly income then it's not addictive even if you play every week or month, as long as it doesn't cost you a lot of money and you can control it.

The goal of winning - that's all gamblers want in reality winning is something that is desired, but accepting any loss would be manly as a gambler, because for me the important thing is to play for fun even if there is an intention to win.

I watch football for fun, but I am still very passionate about it and take it very seriously. When my favorite team loses it hurts, and when they win, I am elated. Same thing with gambling, it is a fun activity and not a source of income, I want to win my bet and do some research but I only stake amounts I can afford to lose and gamble as frequently as my spare money allows.

Yes, you are okay losing. You do not want to lose, but you have realized that in gambling you are bound to lose and be in the red almost all the time. Someone who gambles as a source of income is always trying to invent ways to win and it usually ends in staking higher amounts with lower odds. They always feel there is a money problem and if they had enough they will put their skills to use, so with any income they get they automatically think first of gambling with it.
I would never stake $10,0000 or anything close to that on a game, but there are people that will do so cause they feel it gives them a better chance of winning.

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If you are watching a game you staked on with sweat beading down your face and your heart in your mouth, you are no longer gambling for fun.
If you can still have a cold beer and laugh about a bet after losing, you may be on the right track.

- Jay -

If you are gambling to make money, you are most likely to get addicted. But some people will quit while some people will only prefer to gamble with small amount of money to earn money from gambling. That is how those that are use high amount of money will continue to gamble and those that are addicted will be losing.

Some people will say they are gambling for fun not that is not true as they are not different from those that are gambling to make money. Someone that is gambling for fun will use small amount of money that he can afford to lose to gamble while not gamble with the rest of his money.

Yeah I gamble for fun, I'm focus with the match I want to bet and I would be happier to see I win instead of losing, but if I lose, it won't ruin my financial because I only bet small amount of money. I also not make more deposit or take a loan just because I want to recover my losses, I will let it go because I can earn money from my jobs.

So, I hope you're understand what I'm trying to say, win and lose is normal, but I will not be bankrupt if I lose.

If your goal in gambling is to make money, could that be the reason people often get addicted? Or on the other hand, if you’re just gambling for fun, does that mean you’re safe from addiction? What do you think?

Here’s what I thought, even if we say we gamble for fun, the reality is that most gamblers aim to win. So, If your goal is to win, then you need to take gambling seriously and be consistent in your approach to have a better chance of success.

The tricky part is when people say just gamble for fun. Does that mean gambling with the mindset that you’re okay with losing? It’s a bit confusing because gambling inherently involves risks, and no one really enjoys losing.