Gambling - A Game of Luck or Strategy - page 10.

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Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 12:58:19 AM

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

Its not sometimes but always. You cannot win if you are not lucky in gambling even you use 1000 strategies on it. If you're not lucky then you will lose and vice versa. We always need luck when we are gambling. Luck is the "MAIN" key in order for you to win.

Many will believe that lucks really play your destiny, but there's also some good players who can survive with this gambling activity who caters to win,
pro gamblers who are not aiming for big hit but to practice their knowledge and runaway from the house while still got some profits.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on March 26, 2019, 02:06:46 AM

In general betting requires very little skill.

Depending on your goal in gambling, if you have little skill then for sure you won't succeed in winning.
Little skills is good only if you are just playing for fun and if you are just completely relying on your luck in order to win.

Majorly games in casinos are of luck based game where you could be lucky to win else you would be on the losing side. People try their luck and in that process even get addicted to it so much that they lose their money, health , relations etc. Thus in some of the cards game will help you where strategy does work and experience do also play a vital role.

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Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 12:58:19 AM

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

Its not sometimes but always. You cannot win if you are not lucky in gambling even you use 1000 strategies on it. If you're not lucky then you will lose and vice versa. We always need luck when we are gambling. Luck is the "MAIN" key in order for you to win.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on March 26, 2019, 02:06:46 AM

In general betting requires very little skill.

Depending on your goal in gambling, if you have little skill then for sure you won't succeed in winning.
Little skills is good only if you are just playing for fun and if you are just completely relying on your luck in order to win.

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Quote from: jhongzjhong on March 25, 2019, 06:59:41 PM

You are right there, pure luck is needed on this gambling industry in order gamblers will sustain their losses. Most usually gamblers are hoping on luck they do gambling and hoping they have enough luck on that day in order to have a profit even in gambling. Strategy and good condition in mind are much better.
Speaking of traditional gambling only people who are not working will mostly do that.

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

Being lucky plus your strategy can give you a better position before taking in any gambling site but in generally even you have a good strategy but you are greedy its resulting to lose your capital, if you want a little more skill just be on any sport betting site you only need to analyze which team will win.

The greediness will always there, and it's hard to prevent no matter if we are win or lose. The more money we use in gambling, the more chances you will lose. But there is a way to control the greed, and as long as you know the limit you play and the limit you use the money, the greedy will not become bigger, and you will be able to leave the games in any time.

But I don't think that in the traditional gambling, only people who are not working will do that, because some people who are working also do that because they want to make more money and some of them considering gambling is one of the sources of the income. That will not work for them as we know that gambling is part of the entertainment and we should not use gambling as a way to make money.

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Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 12:58:19 AM

Quote from: jhongzjhong on March 25, 2019, 06:59:41 PM

You are right there, pure luck is needed on this gambling industry in order gamblers will sustain their losses. Most usually gamblers are hoping on luck they do gambling and hoping they have enough luck on that day in order to have a profit even in gambling. Strategy and good condition in mind are much better.
Speaking of traditional gambling only people who are not working will mostly do that.

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

Being lucky plus your strategy can give you a better position before taking in any gambling site but in generally even you have a good strategy but you are greedy its resulting to lose your capital, if you want a little more skill just be on any sport betting site you only need to analyze which team will win.

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For me as well betting is much better than other games, as we know so many people knows so much about games and they know how the game will take turn, but I think in gambling we need both luck and strategy, try to get information about the game you selected for online betting or traditional gambling so as we know the more you will be skilled the more earning chances will be there.

In general betting requires very little skill. You obviously need to be well-informed so you don't get on the losing side but otherwise, it's easier to play than say, poker.

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Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 12:58:19 AM

Quote from: jhongzjhong on March 25, 2019, 06:59:41 PM

You are right there, pure luck is needed on this gambling industry in order gamblers will sustain their losses. Most usually gamblers are hoping on luck they do gambling and hoping they have enough luck on that day in order to have a profit even in gambling. Strategy and good condition in mind are much better.
Speaking of traditional gambling only people who are not working will mostly do that.

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

Agreed, all gamblers always said that Luck is blessing thing, if we have in gambling then most of the time we win behalf of it. But the other word is Strategy, few gamblers added strategy with luck, But i think both are working for us to win in gambling.

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Quote from: jhongzjhong on March 25, 2019, 06:59:41 PM

You are right there, pure luck is needed on this gambling industry in order gamblers will sustain their losses. Most usually gamblers are hoping on luck they do gambling and hoping they have enough luck on that day in order to have a profit even in gambling. Strategy and good condition in mind are much better.
Speaking of traditional gambling only people who are not working will mostly do that.

We have a word called beginners luck in which a beginner might take a lot of win even though that is the first time he played the game. So I believe sometimes, we need luck to win games. Only luck itself might take you somewhere else.

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I will just answer on how to stop the impulse to stop gambling, the truth is you cannot get over it on your own, you need an experts guidance and assistance to overcome the impulse, it's actually a serious disorder that should be treated right away before it totally ruin your lives.

Don't listen to the people who tell you that you can cure yourself. No man is truly an island, no matter if you have a big mental resistance. You will mainly need three things, two are a must and one if you need it.

The first two are pretty simple yet really powerful, you need a change of environment both online and especially offline and you need to get together with people who don't pay attention to gambling at all so you do other things with them and distract yourself, it is surprisingly effective.

The third one is going to therapy, this is if you feel like you need more advice.

Those three together can really change your life. Also as a bonus hire an accountant/financial adviser and meet with him/her often and talk about your problem and that you want to quit. So if you ever slip you will feel shame and that will impulse you in the right direction, having careful to not do it again. That bonus one is optional.

Very true, as a former drug addict and a gambling addict now I can say its true.
Having people around you to support you and be here for you in the tough times is highly helpfully and recommended too.
OP you diagnosis pretty well your addiction. Next step is to start willing toove on. Searching for winning strategies isn't willing to change. Because 1 it doesn't exist in the long run, 2 doing this you convince yourself that the concern is a matter of strategy not of behavior...
To get rid of an addiction isn't an easy thing, moreover as gambling as the most powerful addictive substance that is Hope...
But on the other hand with gambling nothimg physiological like for drugs and alcohol.
I was about to say Good Luck to move on but I keep that word and I just wish you to to succeed in your fight against addiction

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on March 25, 2019, 06:38:53 AM

Depends on what you are gambling on. Card games are somewhat predictable as it progresses since there's only a certain number of cards.

Roulette and slots are almost pure luck (depending on where you are playing, some online casinos have features where you can increase the odds for a lower modifier, for example).

Betting seems to be easier to win according to some people.

For me as well betting is much better than other games, as we know so many people knows so much about games and they know how the game will take turn, but I think in gambling we need both luck and strategy, try to get information about the game you selected for online betting or traditional gambling so as we know the more you will be skilled the more earning chances will be there.

You are right there, pure luck is needed on this gambling industry in order gamblers will sustain their losses. Most usually gamblers are hoping on luck they do gambling and hoping they have enough luck on that day in order to have a profit even in gambling. Strategy and good condition in mind are much better.
Speaking of traditional gambling only people who are not working will mostly do that.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on March 25, 2019, 06:38:53 AM

Depends on what you are gambling on. Card games are somewhat predictable as it progresses since there's only a certain number of cards.

Roulette and slots are almost pure luck (depending on where you are playing, some online casinos have features where you can increase the odds for a lower modifier, for example).

Betting seems to be easier to win according to some people.

For me as well betting is much better than other games, as we know so many people knows so much about games and they know how the game will take turn, but I think in gambling we need both luck and strategy, try to get information about the game you selected for online betting or traditional gambling so as we know the more you will be skilled the more earning chances will be there.

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Quote from: biskitop on March 23, 2019, 09:50:58 PM

luck, especially the lottery, because we only enter bets and wait their turn whether our bets are out or not. for capsa, there are still strategy games there, but still luck is the main one because all are based on the cards we get.

When we say gambling is a game of luck, then it will good for the lottery because that game is pure luck and we should have a luck to win. But in the other game like poker or other card games, then we can call that card games is a strategy but still, both game type will need the luck to win. Every game on the gambling game will need luck and we know that.

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Depends on what you are gambling on. Card games are somewhat predictable as it progresses since there's only a certain number of cards.

Roulette and slots are almost pure luck (depending on where you are playing, some online casinos have features where you can increase the odds for a lower modifier, for example).

Betting seems to be easier to win according to some people.

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Stopping all at once is never possible, it is a gradual process and it requires self discipline. Try first by reducing the number of bets you place a day, then a week and probably a month. In doing this just give yourself an excuse why you can not bet as usual. If you are successful in this, then you can wake one day and say " I'm not betting today" and you will be able to control yourself. Good luck

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 23, 2019, 02:47:25 AM

Even expert players have a bad day, having consecutive bad cards won't help your skills, luck still play the big part of your gambling activities, even we consider your knowledge without luck behind you possibilities to lose along the wat is much higher.

Yes hat is true. You do not know what would happen before actually getting involved in a game or play.
It is no doubt good to have a positive mindset about your performance but the probability of a win is always ambiguous.

So, I think that here is another factor besides luck and strategy and that is the gambling manipulation by the house that is the reason you do not happen to have windows at the sides and no clocks in the casinos and you loose track of time and play long thereby loosing big.

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Quote from: Patatas on March 23, 2019, 02:15:53 PM

It's not logical either. It's the knowledge and experience matters more in sports-betting than logic. Let's assume you say a Team-A will beat Team-B because team a has a particular player but who knows if that player will get injured or a red card? Now that's not either logical or knowledgeable. Luck again will play an important role here for the bettor on the other end. My point being, at the end of the day it's still gambling.

I don't quite agree,
Logic and Knowledge is about "a way of reasoning" and "facts, information, and skills acquired through experience", Neither of the two is a certain way of knowing what's to happen ? but you'd make an "Informed guess" without the need of luck for it to happen, all factors considered.

Let's say would you always bet against Man City with the hope(luck) that their best player(s) will get injured or a red card ? Even with a red card you'd fancy them to win some matches right, without getting lucky ? Do you think someone could be lucky enough to bet on and win that the current Man City squad will lose all their 38 games in the premier campaign ?

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 09:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Lets suppose we are talking about poker which is a game of bothe strategy and experience. If you are experienced and can be good at the table, it is never a game of luck for you. If you are not experienced, you would call it luck if you win by a random chance but that has a very low probability so I think it really depends on the way you paly and never on your luck.

Even expert players have a bad day, having consecutive bad cards won't help your skills, luck still play the big part of your gambling activities, even we consider your knowledge without luck behind you possibilities to lose along the wat is much higher.

Yeah true, whatever your skills and strategies are, if what you get is a very bad card and your opponent has a very good card,
of course you can lose. luck is also necessary in poker and all other gambling games

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luck, especially the lottery, because we only enter bets and wait their turn whether our bets are out or not. for capsa, there are still strategy games there, but still luck is the main one because all are based on the cards we get.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 09:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Poker has a lot of skill but all the gambling games are strongly correlated to the factor of luck.
You gave some examples and all of them had the factor of luck but some of them the factor of strategy. So gambling is defined by luck and not about strategy because there are sometimes that luck can destroy your strategy.

Maybe does play a part in gambling, but in the view sporting bets which I'm a big fan, Strategy and logic plays a bigger role in winning. Luck is just based on very small percentage of winning, you can't win all your bets solely based on luck, while you stand a chance to win them if logical enough.

It's not logical either. It's the knowledge and experience matters more in sports-betting than logic. Let's assume you say a Team-A will beat Team-B because team a has a particular player but who knows if that player will get injured or a red card? Now that's not either logical or knowledgeable. Luck again will play an important role here for the bettor on the other end. My point being, at the end of the day it's still gambling.

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