Gambling - A Game of Luck or Strategy - page 11.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Poker has a lot of skill but all the gambling games are strongly correlated to the factor of luck.
You gave some examples and all of them had the factor of luck but some of them the factor of strategy. So gambling is defined by luck and not about strategy because there are sometimes that luck can destroy your strategy.

Maybe does play a part in gambling, but in the view sporting bets which I'm a big fan, Strategy and logic plays a bigger role in winning. Luck is just based on very small percentage of winning, you can't win all your bets solely based on luck, while you stand a chance to win them if logical enough.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 19, 2019, 09:10:40 PM

I will just answer on how to stop the impulse to stop gambling, the truth is you cannot get over it on your own, you need an experts guidance and assistance to overcome the impulse, it's actually a serious disorder that should be treated right away before it totally ruin your lives.

Don't listen to the people who tell you that you can cure yourself. No man is truly an island, no matter if you have a big mental resistance. You will mainly need three things, two are a must and one if you need it.

The first two are pretty simple yet really powerful, you need a change of environment both online and especially offline and you need to get together with people who don't pay attention to gambling at all so you do other things with them and distract yourself, it is surprisingly effective.

The third one is going to therapy, this is if you feel like you need more advice.

Those three together can really change your life. Also as a bonus hire an accountant/financial adviser and meet with him/her often and talk about your problem and that you want to quit. So if you ever slip you will feel shame and that will impulse you in the right direction, having careful to not do it again. That bonus one is optional.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Poker has a lot of skill but all the gambling games are strongly correlated to the factor of luck.
You gave some examples and all of them had the factor of luck but some of them the factor of strategy. So gambling is defined by luck and not about strategy because there are sometimes that luck can destroy your strategy.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Lets suppose we are talking about poker which is a game of bothe strategy and experience. If you are experienced and can be good at the table, it is never a game of luck for you. If you are not experienced, you would call it luck if you win by a random chance but that has a very low probability so I think it really depends on the way you paly and never on your luck.

Even expert players have a bad day, having consecutive bad cards won't help your skills, luck still play the big part of your gambling activities, even we consider your knowledge without luck behind you possibilities to lose along the wat is much higher.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 19, 2019, 09:52:19 PM

There strategy also includes on how to manage themselves.

Managing bankroll you mean? It is a very important concept that most addicted gamblers have forgotten nowadays with time. It was the basis of development of different strategies and when to stop playing or stop trying to recover. Normally you should not bet more than 10% of your entire bankroll. But that all-in button makes every degen pump all their cash in for a quick wipeout. Not sure if that is due to frustration or hoping for a miracle.

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Winning is hard if you are out of control as even if you are good in analyzing what you are doing but if you are not good in putting it in action, that will lead to failure in gambling, these two should be possess by a gambler in order to be successful in his venture.

Permanently winning is not possible in gambling. All wins are temporary unless you cash your win out and then never come back to play. But that seldom happens in real life. Almost all gamblers go back to make more money with the money they won and lose it. Thats why a casino always prospers.

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Quote from: emmybd on March 18, 2019, 06:53:28 AM

Gambling is purely a game of luck, i don't think that there isn't any working strategy out there. I myself have played some dice games, so i don't see any strategy there.

You were referring to the games that were purely luck based games, but there are games that are required more than just luck, for example, poker or esports games. These games need some skills and the one who is wiser and tough enough will win the game and luck there is just a bonus to them.

I am agree with you, but also i am agree with him, Actually he is talking about dice, it is pure luck base game, strategy is not important in this game.
But if we talk about poker and sports then definitely we will be needed both luck and strategy.

Strategy is devised by keeping in mind the strategy of the opponent at gambling. There is logic behind it. I cannot understand it about luck. May be you call something that is destined to happen merely LUCK. Whatever, what matters is the win at gambling. If you can manage to win by either way, you should gamble.

If there is risk, better explore other ways of making money as we have plenty of opportunities thanks to cryptocurrency.

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I will just answer on how to stop the impulse to stop gambling, the truth is you cannot get over it on your own, you need an experts guidance and assistance to overcome the impulse, it's actually a serious disorder that should be treated right away before it totally ruin your lives.

You are the ones that can cure your self from the addiction . i was once an addict gambler and an addict gamer but i manage overcome them because im willing to change my life for the better .

Now back to the original topic on gambling is a game of luck or strategy . based on my observation as a regular ~~addicted~~ gambler i could say that it is both based on luck and on strategy no matter what kind of games you are playing because every gambler will always analyze the game and they will create thier own strategy based on what they see but luck do also plays a major role .

There strategy also includes on how to manage themselves.
Winning is hard if you are out of control as even if you are good in analyzing what you are doing but if you are not good in putting it in action, that will lead to failure in gambling, these two should be possess by a gambler in order to be successful in his venture.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 19, 2019, 09:10:40 PM

I will just answer on how to stop the impulse to stop gambling, the truth is you cannot get over it on your own, you need an experts guidance and assistance to overcome the impulse, it's actually a serious disorder that should be treated right away before it totally ruin your lives.

You are the ones that can cure your self from the addiction . i was once an addict gambler and an addict gamer but i manage overcome them because im willing to change my life for the better .

Now back to the original topic on gambling is a game of luck or strategy . based on my observation as a regular ~~addicted~~ gambler i could say that it is both based on luck and on strategy no matter what kind of games you are playing because every gambler will always analyze the game and they will create thier own strategy based on what they see but luck do also plays a major role .

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I will just answer on how to stop the impulse to stop gambling, the truth is you cannot get over it on your own, you need an experts guidance and assistance to overcome the impulse, it's actually a serious disorder that should be treated right away before it totally ruin your lives.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Still, both requires luck in order to win. One can say that poker requires someone to possess both luck and skill, whereas the lottery is primarily extreme luck in order to win. Gambling, in general, revolves around the odds of winning. Sure, you may know all the techniques and technicalities in gambling but if the odds are not on your favor then you will never win.

Quote from: Carollzinha on March 18, 2019, 05:30:00 PM

In some way you need a strategy to be able to get some luck. But that's acquired based on your mentality and how you are going to deal with such lucks.
If you intend on achieving a wider range of green streaks you should change your strategies according with your rolls history.

Verify what odds are at your favour. Analyze the data and that's how someone can win against probabilistics in gambling.

The most difficult skill in gambling is KNOWING WHEN TO STOP. That skill alone makes the difference between a successful gambler and an addict. If one knows how to perceive and accept loss, then he can prevent the negative outcomes of being defeated; one can succumb to addiction which would ultimately cascade into mental health problems.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

Lets suppose we are talking about poker which is a game of bothe strategy and experience. If you are experienced and can be good at the table, it is never a game of luck for you. If you are not experienced, you would call it luck if you win by a random chance but that has a very low probability so I think it really depends on the way you paly and never on your luck.

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Quote from: emmybd on March 18, 2019, 06:53:28 AM

Gambling is purely a game of luck, i don't think that there isn't any working strategy out there. I myself have played some dice games, so i don't see any strategy there.

You were referring to the games that were purely luck based games, but there are games that are required more than just luck, for example, poker or esports games. These games need some skills and the one who is wiser and tough enough will win the game and luck there is just a bonus to them.

I am agree with you, but also i am agree with him, Actually he is talking about dice, it is pure luck base game, strategy is not important in this game.
But if we talk about poker and sports then definitely we will be needed both luck and strategy.

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Quote from: emmybd on March 18, 2019, 06:53:28 AM

Gambling is purely a game of luck, i don't think that there isn't any working strategy out there. I myself have played some dice games, so i don't see any strategy there.

You were referring to the games that were purely luck based games, but there are games that are required more than just luck, for example, poker or esports games. These games need some skills and the one who is wiser and tough enough will win the game and luck there is just a bonus to them.

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Quote from: emmybd on March 18, 2019, 06:53:28 AM

Gambling is purely a game of luck, i don't think that there isn't any working strategy out there. I myself have played some dice games, so i don't see any strategy there.

Purely game of luck if you play those games that relying to luck, dice, slots, etc.

When I'm new to crypto gambling, I've found people who are sharing their strategies and I'm near to believe that they were all working. But you know what? none of them existed for a long time, most of those strategies were all for short term only.

Not every strategy is working in long term, it's more of your attitude as a gambler and on how you're going to react with your wins and losses.

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In some way you need a strategy to be able to get some luck. But that's acquired based on your mentality and how you are going to deal with such lucks.
If you intend on achieving a wider range of green streaks you should change your strategies according with your rolls history.

Verify what odds are at your favour. Analyze the data and that's how someone can win against probabilistics in gambling.

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Quote from: markstivn98 on March 09, 2019, 01:29:34 PM

If you want to play gambling, think of something other than luck.
And if you do not have luck never approach ..
Complex strategies and the edge of the house can not be overcome or understood by one.

I you believe in luck purely, and do not give credit to strategies, then yes gambling is a game of luck.

If you are a follower of both, it is a game of both luck and strategy and the last one which is a person who truly believes in strategies and probability and make things happen by calculating stuff foe whom the gambling is a matter of strategies and luck really does not play any role here

But, we have our own mindsets and strategies and it really does not matter as long as you are making the money.

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Quote from: claudiauit on March 18, 2019, 07:58:55 AM

There is no good strategy in gambling which guarantees you a profit if you play against the house. You are not able to win in long-run.
Only possible way to beat the house in long-run if you have any advantage against the house which probably get the result of ban after some time.

What OP is asking about Luck or strategy

I choose Luck because even how strategic you are as long as youre not cheating in gambling you will never beat the house(winning with huge amount and constant),only Luck will bring you winnings

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Quote from: claudiauit on March 18, 2019, 07:58:55 AM

There is no good strategy in gambling which guarantees you a profit if you play against the house. You are not able to win in long-run.
Only possible way to beat the house in long-run if you have any advantage against the house which probably get the result of ban after some time.

Very difficult to sustain in the long run and people who get addicted end up on a losing note generally because they play for a very long time and in such scenarios losing the money is very easy and only those who are luck enough makes the most of the money at times.

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Quote from: absy on March 16, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Gambling includes a wide range of things inside it. Depends on which particular thing you are referring to.
Take poker , it's about skill and luck. Take about lottery it's purely luck, take sports betting again strategy and luck.

it means that depending on the game you are playing, we cannot generalize gambling about luck or strategy only. there are many gambling games available. the most important thing is not to reverse it, when you play poker you depend on luck, and when playing dice you use strategy poker

Yes, of course, it depends on the games we played, and if the game is sports betting, then I think we need strategy besides of luck, and sometimes, the strategy will come together with the luck so we can win the money. But for the other game, we only need the luck to win, and it's not easy as we say because luck is the one thing that we don't know when it appears.

Most certain situations which could bring us winning on gambling bets was due to luck, and that's right to say we're always dependent on how the game work for us in order to win. Taking strategies to whatever ways it was, I don't think you can do consistent moves in order to win the same type of strikes again. You need to make another options, but in the long run if it's not for you then you can't be lucky at the same time as you could wish those previous wins to happen again.

Most people judge victory in gambling because of luck, but strategies are also needed in gambling and both will collaborate to create victory.
and the most important thing is that you stop when you feel winning and that is included in the strategy, and bluffing in bets is also included in the strategy and depends on what is played in gambling, so the strategy also plays an important role in playing and accompanied by playing calmly and not lustful

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Quote from: emmybd on March 18, 2019, 06:53:28 AM

Gambling is purely a game of luck, i don't think that there isn't any working strategy out there. I myself have played some dice games, so i don't see any strategy there.

Lest assume that you play porker and sport betting, how does luck work?. Am in the opinion of Gambling strategies and not Gambling luck. Luck could be seen on dice, faucets games among others but not the two mentioned above(Porker and Sport Bet.). Have been in gambling for years back and always played according to my personal strategies and has never failed me. Learn to understand before Play.

Still those games win depends on luck,let us assume the poker game the card coming into you is just purely depends on luck and you need to play with it so the card coming onto you based on your luck.In sport betting we need more skills but on games anything can happen the side never won against can turn their head and win if you are too unlcucky on that day.

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