Gambling addiction is not about the money you could win; it's about the "win" - page 3.

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Quote from: Juse14 on April 03, 2024, 11:30:15 AM

Satisfaction is temporary, because when the effects of the alcohol they drink have worn off, anxiety about the problems they are experiencing, feelings of stress and frustration will fill their heads again, as well as when they carry out gambling, where many people assume that they are gambling. to relieve stress and get pleasure, but in reality many times when the end of the gambling they play ends in defeat, playing gambling actually makes them feel even more stressed. Feeling stressed because he has lost a lot of money as a result of his gambling. And therefore, if we like gambling enough, then as much as possible manage this activity as best as possible, so as not to eliminate the fun and essence in it, nor cause significant losses.

It's a stretch to think that gambling can temporarily take away your consciousness, but if you liken it to alcoholic beverages in the same case, instead of relieving stress and getting pleasure, it doesn't work like the drinks you drink with the games in the casino.
If it's not about winning then maybe the addiction is to chase past losses, and come back again wanting to win and get back the money you lost. Relative to gambling winning is bliss and losing is sorrow if we look at the concept, but the feelings and goals surrounding both can be subjectively interpreted which gives birth to different views on the why and how questions of addiction itself.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on April 03, 2024, 05:44:57 AM

Quote from: iv4n on April 03, 2024, 02:39:15 AM

It doesn't matter if someone is rich or poor, we all start gambling for fun & easy profit. The stakes are different, everyone has their own limit and perception of a min bet & big win.

Rich men prefer other means of entertainment also and not depend on gambling like people that are not rich that are looking for a day to win jackpot and win huge amount of money. I can say that rich people are more sensible and avoidinf irresponsible gambling than people that are not rich.

I am not really sure what you wish to say here... Poor people also prefer other means of entertainment, and poor people can also be very responsible with the money they have. Poor or rich people look for jackpots, and you should know that it's a different jackpot if you play with $0.1 and $100 per bet... so even rich people can easily get a lot richer if they hit a jackpot with some high bet. So 100 $0.1 bets are $10, and 100 $10 bets are $1000... Everyone plays with stakes they can control, and those stakes can bring big profits or big losses.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 03, 2024, 02:39:15 AM

It's not a question of how someone becomes too addicted to gambling, I think we are all addicted, so the real question is how well we are able to control it. Without control, anyone (rich or poor) can lose everything they have and get into debt on top of that.

You are right. But non rich people gamble to make money and that makes rich people to be different because they do not look for money from gambling the way people that are not rich are looking for money.

It's the same. As I wrote above... poor guy will try to make $10 with his $10, millionaire will try to make another million with his million. Numbers are different, but the chances for both are the same.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Well, addiction is addiction even if you are rich or not, winning or not, losing or not because they may not be concerned about the financial consequences in the same way that someone who is struggling financially might be even the rich still keep on gambling though they are not afraid of losing but they can't stop because they are being addicted but while they are not afraid to lose, they will have a significant impact on their lives like losing their relationships, reputation and even their freedom but I think it's important to consider all of these things and not just assume that money will protect someone from the negative effects of gambling.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The way I see it those people are addicted to the feeling they got when they gamble, not just about the profit, socialization or drinking.
We have some gamblers who are addicted to it without even socialization.
I think rich people became addicted to gambling because of the satisfaction that they got from winning, and they are risking their money to get that satisfaction.

The pleasant feeling they get from gambling makes them addicted and want to get more. Without them realizing it, they become more and more addicted and if there is no self-control, they will get deeper into gambling.
If they have been gambling for too long, it will be difficult to cure them and they will only spend their time gambling. They will not want to stop their gambling activities because for them, gambling has become a necessity.
But if rich people continue to gamble, their wealth will run out because gambling is not a place to make money. They must realize it before it's too late, so they don't regret it later.

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The reason for entertainment and enjoying the results is understandable. For many millionaires, gambling is a luxurious form of entertainment. After all, some millionaires value preserving their hard-earned money and probably don't want to risk gambling. Raising capital is a procedure that requires diligence, intelligence and tactics. Therefore, they choose to invest wisely instead of just relying on luck. On the contrary, some millionaires also have a hobby of gambling. Even though they are aware that gambling is high risk, they are still motivated by the desire for wealth and the possibility of winning big. A harsh education and society can make them want to make money quickly so gambling becomes the fastest way they know to get it.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The way I see it those people are addicted to the feeling they got when they gamble, not just about the profit, socialization or drinking.
We have some gamblers who are addicted to it without even socialization.
I think rich people became addicted to gambling because of the satisfaction that they got from winning, and they are risking their money to get that satisfaction.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Casino is one of the favourite place for rich people to hangout, they are not necessarily involved in betting to make money for their living but their goal is also make some money as fun, while doing it some people get addicted and gamble more to recover the loss and lose more while attempting it.

Gambling for making money is wrong ideology, if someone is doing with such thoughts will learn the lesson in hard way.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I think their satisfaction lies on the uncertainity the gambling game provides to them. There is a theory which says personalities like politicians, for an example, are used to be on the control of the situation all the time. They are a dominant force which decides the direction not only of their lives, but also the directions the whole society is going to take.

This burden annoys and stress them in some moments, so they feel the need for relief through activities where they aren't in charge of the situation anymore, becoming just the passive agent, resigning themselves to the active and dominant force of someone else. In this case we can consider this force to be the luck factor at gambling games.

As consequence they feel pleasure and satisfaction by not knowing what is going to happen next. If they are going to win or lose the bet. If they are going to quit the gambling session in profit or loss. This uncertainity is what gives them the thrill!

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It simply depends on who you are and what your personality is; things are subjective when it comes to satisfaction. Some people are fine just playing because they are not or no longer in need of big amount of money becaause they have their own wealth outside this industry. But of most the people here for sure are into gambling activities to earn profit. You'd only be engaging on either entertainment or financial satisfaction and rewards. I cannot think of other reason why do people gamble aside from these two. Winning is a part of a person's ego and it could be a drive. However, that drive depends on your needs and desire. If it is winning over opponent then that's valid if that's how you percieve things but more likely there'e a deeper meaning for you to be too eager of things. You can name all of those things but for sure majority of it would fall under monetary needs.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I believe it actually goes way beyond the social status and the money the person could already have in their pockets, to whether they are less likely or not to start partaking in gambling and betting. Just looks for example and people who are millionaire and billionaire and they have literally enough money to do whatever they want for the rest of their lives and even the rest of the lives of their descendants. They already have money, but money is something complex to the human mind and makes us to have even more of it, even though we already have much of our basic needs covered.
Billionaires continue to do business, Bitcoin whales continue to try to profit off the market and CEOs continue to compete against one another for the sake of accumulating money.
So there are rich people and celebrities out there which (like the common average person) do not see chances of getting money in investments or expansion of their businesses, but rather they turn to gambling.

The takeaway is that Gambling is equally attractive to rich people and people who does not have much money, that is specially true to the new rich and those who inherited their money without being aware of the hard work behind all the fortune.

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Satisfaction is temporary, because when the effects of the alcohol they drink have worn off, anxiety about the problems they are experiencing, feelings of stress and frustration will fill their heads again, as well as when they carry out gambling, where many people assume that they are gambling. to relieve stress and get pleasure, but in reality many times when the end of the gambling they play ends in defeat, playing gambling actually makes them feel even more stressed. Feeling stressed because he has lost a lot of money as a result of his gambling. And therefore, if we like gambling enough, then as much as possible manage this activity as best as possible, so as not to eliminate the fun and essence in it, nor cause significant losses.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

We all know that drugs are very harmful to our body yet spending a lot of money people use drugs because they enjoy the fun of consuming them. Similarly gambling is a place of entertainment although there is a possibility of losing a lot of money and many people lose a lot of money but it attracts us again and again and even after losing a lot of money we cannot stop gambling. So both the rich and the poor are interested in gambling and enjoy gambling regularly

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

There are many reasons why millionaires are addicted to gambling, even though they are already rich and should have enough with what they have - but it seems they are not satisfied with what they have and gamble to fulfill their lust and pleasure. For example, the news states that Bruno Mars is said to have millions of dollars in debt to MGM, and not only Bruno Mars, but several other artists also have debts to the casino. Why are they like that? It's nothing other than that because of their lifestyle, lust, pleasure, and triviality towards gambling because they think that their wealth is so large that it's not a problem for them to gamble and have fun. That's why these millionaires are still involved in gambling, even though they actually have a lot of wealth.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Gambling solely for the aim of making money to meet our needs is not appropriate because gambling doesn't guarantee a steady source of income. It is better to see gambling as entertainment but without neglecting the possibility of making money. What you need to know is that everyone including billionaires wants more money. A millionaire might gamble for fun but some of them gamble for the money.

I can attest that socialization is one of the benefits of physical casinos because it provides an avenue to interact with friends and sometimes share some bottles of beer. Physical casinos provide a good atmosphere for entertainment and no doubt many politicians and millionaires might find the place entertaining. But as I earlier stated, many of them still gamble for money because I have seen some of them who are addicted gamblers.

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This “Win”, “Maybe Win” becomes the beginning of addiction. Emotions are not part of addiction but this can ruin the fun of gambling. When both of "win and emotion" cannot be separated, the gambler can experience problems. This may be considered wrong for some people, but most of them are those who want to always win, making them addicted to gambling. The winnings he got made him gamble again, until he couldn't control himself because of their emotion in gambling so he no longer gambled for fun but to win. How if face another lose, emotions bring him to gamble for win. Of course, half of us gamble for win, but without control, it's only emotion to win.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Am very sure if you love the feeling of winning so much you should try play more games that offer rewards either online or offline. Binance supports alot of good gaming services and it might be an opportunity to earn as you enjoy the thrill of winning.

For the millionaires who gamble alot, I doubt they suddenly became millionaires overnight and thus, it may have been an already reinforced habit that they had before they become millionaires.
Literally anyone who has enough money to lavish can and often gamble mostly when they roll with like minded pals.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does

I'm quite confuse when you win in a casino you are going to win money and the more you win the more money coming in, even if you say that you don't care about the money, as long as you win the money keeps flowing unless you just giveaway the money that you've won.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Some people are sociable and the physical casinos knows this and they know that these sociable people are people on high society so they make it a point to make their casino a good place to meet and mingle but even if they are here to meet people and enjoy they are also here to make money.

Its human to want to make easy money even if you are already rich you still want to make money besides the feeling and enjoying the place, they feel they are rewarded they feel the dopamine effect in gambling

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

Aside from what everyone has said, I guess it's because some people aren't satisfied with their source of income and find it fun to win money through gambling.

Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

That's probably true to a certain extent because as the others already mentioned, casinos would always step up to provide the best experience for their best customers, and that's the high rollers.

IMO there are still high rollers who are addicted because of other reasons like struggling to stop themselves from chasing their losses.

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Quote from: Abrichy2471 on April 03, 2024, 12:23:56 AM

When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

the idea of winning does.... Does that sound somehow to you? Oh yes that is how addiction set in. Gambling addict are people whose mind is becloud with such ideas.

Seeing millionaires gambling is a justification that not everyone gamble for money but for the sake of fun and entertainment. This people have enough money to cater for themselves and love ones but they still engage in gambling. Winning more money is probably part of motivation but that's not the main reason behind their involvement in gambling. Some of them become addict because money to gamble with is never a problem and see it as a place to pass off their stress.

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Quote from: Cantsay on April 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM

To be honest, the only reason why I think a millionaire or a rich person would get into gambling is because they are looking to have some fun but along the way they got carried away and then fall into addiction.

There might be some rich people who are purely in for the fun part, but as we all know even if you’re rich or poor if you don’t take caution when gambling you’ll become something you don’t like - for example they might not be chasing their losses since they have enough money to cover up the amount they lost but the time they usually spend on their account could still lead to it and that’s the only reason that comes to my mind each time I think about it.

For those who have a lot of money or are called millionaires, in my opinion it is clear that they do or participate in gambling because they want to have fun, but that doesn't mean they don't want to win, of course there is a desire for them to be able to win in the gambling they do. It's just that their main goal is to have fun. They probably don't think too much about the money they lose because they gamble on it, because they know the meaning of gambling so they don't mind the losses that occur.

I agree with you, it is true whether they are rich or poor, but if they are not careful in gambling then they may fall into problems such as unacceptable losses which lead them to greater losses or gambling addiction. it may be true that time can make them fall into trouble such as losing more money, even though rich people gamble just for fun. Even though they gamble with the aim of just having fun, if they make a mistake, there is a clear possibility that they could also be in trouble that makes them suffer. We all know the bad effects of gambling if we lose self-control or excessively, and everything can change from one moment to another.

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