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The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.

Yeah that's true because in real life you can hardly see a wealthy man gambling because he has already gotten more than enough money that could get him whatever they need in life, so I totally agree with you because like I already mentioned on most of my post is very rare to see a rich man gambling, however even if gambling is a game of fun there is no wealthy man will just sacrifice his money on gambling just to have fun, although there has been numerous of people who has been talking about how most people sacrifice there money just to have fun.

I also agree with that majority of people or rather gamblers who easily become an addict are those who doesn't have money and when they gamble they are ready to put in everything they have just to have a good wining but the rich doesn't gamble much and even if they do, they gamble with strategy of targeting a club that has higher chance of wining with a smaller odds and put in money but when it comes to the poor they gamble too aggressively.
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Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.
I disagree with you on this, that people are gambling to become a millionaire, and that millionaire do not gamble because they have millions. People that gamble to become millionaires are always those that think they can make a fortune through gambling, which it do end up to be the opposite, and they are not responsible gamblers.

There are another kind of gamblers that do not gamble because they want to make millions, but they gamble for fun, because they have come to understand that gambling is a game of luck and should be seen as a means of entertainment. Such people are the ones that are enjoying gambling, and we have both the rich and the poor falling in this category.

I have heard of some millionaires that gambled and became broke. So what were they looking for when they already have millions. Addiction a problem to all, both the rich and the poor.
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

To be honest, the only reason why I think a millionaire or a rich person would get into gambling is because they are looking to have some fun but along the way they got carried away and then fall into addiction.

There might be some rich people who are purely in for the fun part, but as we all know even if you’re rich or poor if you don’t take caution when gambling you’ll become something you don’t like -  for example they might not be chasing their losses since they have enough money to cover up the amount they lost but the time they usually spend on their account could still lead to it and that’s the only reason that comes to my mind each time I think about it.
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
The way average people, poor people crave for gambling and play with the amount that they can't afford to lose, this is the same way way the rich  people crave for gambling and play with the amount they can afford. Millionaires always want to get more money, they are not satisfied with amount money of money they have, that is way they play gambling .
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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?
A rich athlete or politician can become addictive just like the way every average and poor person can become addictive to gambling.  People comes addicted to gambling because of too much passion and much expectation they have towards gambling irrespective of the financial status. People can be addicted if they do not follow gambling responsibly the way it needs to be followed.
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I remember watching a movie about why rich people invest, one of the findings was that they find meaning in that activity and feel like their life was fulfilled if they managed to do that well. Basically, it serves as a product to fill their self-actualization needs. I can see the same thing happen if they use gambling and win it to fulfill their self-actualization needs, but not sure it applies to anyone who is addicted. They can start with the same motive, but I believe things change if a person becomes addicted. It no longer makes them happy but hurts them instead.
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Well, we can actually sort out what you said in this post, let's start with you first. initially you start gambling to win some money, or you hope to get the biggest win. then, you claim that gradually your ideas began to change. but still, the common thread is money which is the starting point for you to gamble. although now, perhaps your mindset has changed as you gain more experience.

Referring to the second point, we do not necessarily generalize it to what you think. for example, Athletes, Politicians, and even other rich people. in essence, everyone has a trigger for why they like to gamble and even become addicted. we don't know that at first they gambled, then became addicts. When it comes to money, they have it. Or it could be, they want to get richer from gambling. After all, everyone's thinking patterns are different. Well, let's just take the big picture, most athletes or politicians who like to gamble are initially for entertainment. Or, they meet at a place that has a casino and bar. Then, they try it just for fun and it ends up becoming a hobby. there are also factors from DNA and genes, we discussed this point in the previous thread. So in essence we cannot equalize everyone, you have mentioned several factors in this post. So the point is that each person's addiction is different, even though the essence is the same, they are both addicts.
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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Sometimes it's not always about the money- it is about making a statement and conquering the odds on your favour.

The rich gamble due to various reasons but mostly, they look for the feeling of adrenaline and anxiety. When they conquer great fear, there is that huge moment of relief that people sometimes look for.

You're right- these people are already rich so what do they gain from it? Perhaps more money to dispose; or maybe they find the environment of gambling establishments to be comfortable? There's lots of reasons on why they gamble but I do think that majority of the rich gamble in order to prove that they can win. Their competitive nature drives them to prove to others that they can win against these odds.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
These days we all know that there are things that we can all spend our money on, the things you mentioned are thr real examples of things people spend their moneys on, if they don't spend of drinks they spend on women, if they don't spend on women, they spend on drugs, gamble and don't people don't even spend their money on themselves, those people prefer to satisfy other people than them self, drinks too.
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
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The answer is already in your statement, millionaires already have a lot of money, they have assets, good money circulation, investment, and etc so they don't need to worry if they lose too much money because at the end of the day, they have the cash to enjoy themselves, if you have a lot of money there's a lot of opportunity, and chances will be given to you because you can play a lot of games, you can risk a lot more than the other gambler. Sometimes you must need to enjoy life and people found this in playing gambling.
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I agree, those millionares start to gamble because they want to enjoy theirselves and their money by using it for their own leisures, and gambling is a big part of their leisures in their life, but some millionares are too smart when it comes to spending their hardwork money,
the rest of them are really just controlling their movements with their money, maybe because they know how difficult it is to earn them, because it's true that not all rich people become rich instantly, for sure their hard work, intelligence and strategy that they have, became an investment here and as a reward to themselves, they do the things they want to do. Some of them become addicted because of greed, knowing their background, all they really want is to gain huge amount of money and they saw gambling as one of the possible source if that money that's why even if they know the consequences of the things that they wanted to do, they still continue doing it because gambling satisfy their wants and happiness at some point
Believe me, if you see someone claimed to be rich or you think they're rich because they have many business or high paying job, they're not that rich. Let's say you have $10 Million, technically you're rich by a lot people, you can actually buy lambo that cost you $300K, but you choose to not buy because you feel it's wasting money and better you invest it. But if you own $10 Billion, I don't think you will think like that, you will immediately buy it.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I know very few millionaires who gamble and are addicted.We all know Drake but that guy is being hugely sponsored by a casino and cases of such celebrities and millionaires are rare.I see no reason in the first place why someone who has achieved quite a lot in their life should gamble,there is no logical sense to it knowing the gambling dangers,it is like going to tease the Lion in his cage so close that you risk to get your hand cut.
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It is natural if you have the mindset to win some money. People often think about that when they gamble because they have seen several people who have succeeded in making a lot of money from gambling. They also want to get it but can't follow people's actions.

A millionaire gambles for many reasons, and we will never know the exact reason. They may gamble because they want to have fun after their daily activities. They want to enjoy their free time by gambling but they don't think about winning or losing from gambling. They can stop themselves after playing gambling for a while.

If they think that socializing+fun+drinking+gambling is satisfying, that's right because they enjoy their free time well. Meanwhile, if people use gambling to make money, they should be prepared to lose.
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A gambler is a gambler, rich or poor but who needs to be more active with gambling? The dudes with the less money, and thats where  the poor comes in, they have the biggest desire to make the most money, they will go all into gambling thinking it's the way to get rich.

And the rich already have a source of income getting them the real bags of money, gambling to them is catching some fun.

The poor will fall mercilessly in the addiction of gambling compared to the rich men, a responsible gambler who isn't rich like I am don't see much fulfillment of getting rich through gambling.

I know that trying to get my mind fixed on gambling as my source of income will put me in much bigger trouble, I prefer having a great time in gamble and going to other sources for income stream.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.
Are you sure that it's a good idea to start gambling to make your life better? Are you really sure about that? You might be lucky and win a million dollar one day but don't build your future on that dream.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
The experience of millionaire is different from a regular guy. Millionaire has fun in one of the most exciting casinos, have many hot chicks around him and doesn't have to worry about financial problems, he doesn't gamble for money, he gambles for fun, that's all.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
Exactly!
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.
I'd like to believe it the same the goal is to make money if you're trying to win or beat the house the goal is about winning the money, it's different if you're playing for fun, making money is not the main objective but capturing those exciting moments when you're betting, but even if you want to have fun you still want to win money we cannot be hypocrite about winning money when there's an opportunity to win.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

This applies to physical casinos since you mentioned socialization+joy+drinking+gambling these are all present when you're playing in physical casinos and in online casinos the socialization is not present unless they are playing with friends.
Both versions have different ambiances, those patronizing the physical casino are looking to socialize and enjoy  the entertainment and ambiance of physical casinos, they meet their business associates, and some businesses are discussed in online casinos, and there were times that some deals are made there.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
there is no socializing in Online casino because you are playing on your own in your gadget and also drinking? well if you drink and gamble then for sure you will end up losing because you will never stop betting even if you are already a winner.

but your points are valid ,  because what can a Billionaire need to gamble from the first place? when they already have everything in life? it is the satisfaction of beating the table that gives them this feeling.
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If you satisfied in gambling because of winning, you should gamble on 1.01x odds games.

Millionaire start to gambling because they have enough money that they can afford to lose.

They can become addict because of skill issue, they can't control themselves.

Of course get drunk is really satisfy because you can temporary escape from your problems, but you will not able to control yourself when you're high.

I agree, those millionares start to gamble because they want to enjoy theirselves and their money by using it for their own leisures, and gambling is a big part of their leisures in their life, but some millionares are too smart when it comes to spending their hardwork money,
the rest of them are really just controlling their movements with their money, maybe because they know how difficult it is to earn them, because it's true that not all rich people become rich instantly, for sure their hard work, intelligence and strategy that they have, became an investment here and as a reward to themselves, they do the things they want to do. Some of them become addicted because of greed, knowing their background, all they really want is to gain huge amount of money and they saw gambling as one of the possible source if that money that's why even if they know the consequences of the things that they wanted to do, they still continue doing it because gambling satisfy their wants and happiness at some point
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It doesn't matter if someone is rich or poor, we all start gambling for fun & easy profit. The stakes are different, everyone has their own limit and perception of a min bet & big win.
Rich men prefer other means of entertainment also and not depend on gambling like people that are not rich that are looking for a day to win jackpot and win huge amount of money. I can say that rich people are more sensible and avoidinf irresponsible gambling than people that are not rich.

It's not a question of how someone becomes too addicted to gambling, I think we are all addicted, so the real question is how well we are able to control it. Without control, anyone (rich or poor) can lose everything they have and get into debt on top of that.
You are right. But non rich people gamble to make money and that makes rich people to be different because they do not look for money from gambling the way people that are not rich are looking for money.
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If you satisfied in gambling because of winning, you should gamble on 1.01x odds games.

Millionaire start to gambling because they have enough money that they can afford to lose.

They can become addict because of skill issue, they can't control themselves.

Of course get drunk is really satisfy because you can temporary escape from your problems, but you will not able to control yourself when you're high.
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Which one is even better between these two? They are the same for me.

The majority of gamblers are gambling because of the money they can win, and some are gambling to win by force, these two will eventually lead to addiction.

Gambling is not a source of income, if you keep thinking that you could win all the time you will keep getting closer to gambling more and more, and the more you keep it up, the more attractive you get to the game.

Many gamblers started to become a responsible one, and as time flew by they changed, and the game changed them, the problem must have started within, they must have strongly believed that gambling holds the key to the cribs.

Either a millionaire or not, everyone wants to make money, for millionaires, they will always want more money, and no one ever stops hunting for money after they make millions, stopping means slowly going broke.

If you like gambling before you become rich, you will keep gambling after you get rich, its simple, what we do all the time becomes a part of us, and we can't go on for long without trying them again.
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