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Quote from: Slow death on January 15, 2023, 05:38:52 PM

even people in the real world are not to be trusted, you can test your friends, do a simple test, drop a lot of money in front of your friends and pretend you didn't see the money falling, then leave the place for a few minutes that you you will see that your friends will take the money, then return to where they are and that you dropped the money stay with them for hours, you will notice that none of them will tell you that you dropped money, that's because money runs people in the world today people no longer value love, honesty, all that matters to people is having a lot of money and humiliating the poor

I agree, based on my personal experience a relative of mine who's not even a gambler asked money to me years ago and have forgotten to pay me. Well, but being an addicted gambler is way too much.

When someone who does have the money of others and sees that it will make them satisfy to gamble with others fund, unusual things can really be done during their desperation moments.

It's disappointing that someone who has built his trust and reputation then will steal his customers money that has really trusted his product.

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Quote from: serjent05 on January 15, 2023, 05:20:16 PM

Past experience makes me think like this too, don't trust people on the internet Cheesy

even people in the real world are not to be trusted, you can test your friends, do a simple test, drop a lot of money in front of your friends and pretend you didn't see the money falling, then leave the place for a few minutes that you you will see that your friends will take the money, then return to where they are and that you dropped the money stay with them for hours, you will notice that none of them will tell you that you dropped money, that's because money runs people in the world today people no longer value love, honesty, all that matters to people is having a lot of money and humiliating the poor

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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 13, 2023, 11:38:06 AM

I don't know this case, but maybe someone could make this clear, because I'm confused... You guys bought cold wallets from someone who made the keys for you, not thinking about whether he still holds the private keys for these wallets, then deposited bitcoin to these addresses and got them stolen?
It's like buying a used trezor or ledger and depositing to the existing addresses. Did the pandemic brainwash you or something?

This is not a gambling problem. This is a scammer exploiting an opportunity by simply picking up money some people sent his way!

Who wants to buy a wallet from me? I'll make you guys some nice addresses to use and they're going to be free! Any takers? Cheesy

The person who created these collectibles was once a trusted member of this forum. He had a good reputation right before someone who owned his collectible noticed that his funds from those collectibles were swiped. As per the creator of this collectible, all of the files/keys from the collectibles he sells, he destroy immediately. But unfortunately, there is one collectible set to which he didn't delete all of the files which he then used to get money from and gamble it all away (as for owlcatz who came in contact with him).

I think this may not be a gambling discussion per se, but it's a textbook example of how gamblers can throw everything away just to get their fill of their gambling hunger. Mind you, his reputation is years in the making, but because of his gambling itch he just threw it all away.

Exactly.That is compulsive gambling,it can destroy anyone,including trusted members of this forum and not only,we have seen people doing much worse things than this.When a person becomes addicted to such levels the only thing who can help him is the professional help,the fact that he didn't show any sign that he wanted to recover says a lot about gambling addiction which distorts one person's reality and this person no matter who this is cannot think clearly or cold headed.Gamblers have thrown away their families,wives,jobs and this is just another such story unfortunately.

The uncontrollable urge is the reason why being a compulsive gambler can destroy your life. I met a lot of people online and physically that they cannot control their urge because their psychology is already not good. Many gamble fall and became a compulsive gambler because they treat gambling as their personal income, wherein they became dependent on it where their decisions have no convictions at all. A compulsive gamblers have always "What if?" in their mind wherein they keep thinking about how much money that they can make from it without having risk management and also without managing their expectations.

Compulsive gamblers don't think about the possible outcome and consequences of their actions regardless of how they will affect their reputation. What important to them is that they would have a souce of funds to gamble continuously despite the ruined trust of the people around them.
Risk is nothing to them as long as they could fulfill their urge to gamble and to satisfy their gambling needs that's why many people's lives get broken and miserable because of this practice.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 15, 2023, 02:56:33 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on January 13, 2023, 12:36:15 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on January 13, 2023, 11:38:06 AM

I don't know this case, but maybe someone could make this clear, because I'm confused... You guys bought cold wallets from someone who made the keys for you, not thinking about whether he still holds the private keys for these wallets, then deposited bitcoin to these addresses and got them stolen?
It's like buying a used trezor or ledger and depositing to the existing addresses. Did the pandemic brainwash you or something?

This is not a gambling problem. This is a scammer exploiting an opportunity by simply picking up money some people sent his way!

Who wants to buy a wallet from me? I'll make you guys some nice addresses to use and they're going to be free! Any takers? Cheesy

The person who created these collectibles was once a trusted member of this forum. He had a good reputation right before someone who owned his collectible noticed that his funds from those collectibles were swiped. As per the creator of this collectible, all of the files/keys from the collectibles he sells, he destroy immediately. But unfortunately, there is one collectible set to which he didn't delete all of the files which he then used to get money from and gamble it all away (as for owlcatz who came in contact with him).

I think this may not be a gambling discussion per se, but it's a textbook example of how gamblers can throw everything away just to get their fill of their gambling hunger. Mind you, his reputation is years in the making, but because of his gambling itch he just threw it all away.

Exactly.That is compulsive gambling,it can destroy anyone,including trusted members of this forum and not only,we have seen people doing much worse things than this.When a person becomes addicted to such levels the only thing who can help him is the professional help,the fact that he didn't show any sign that he wanted to recover says a lot about gambling addiction which distorts one person's reality and this person no matter who this is cannot think clearly or cold headed.Gamblers have thrown away their families,wives,jobs and this is just another such story unfortunately.

The uncontrollable urge is the reason why being a compulsive gambler can destroy your life. I met a lot of people online and physically that they cannot control their urge because their psychology is already not good. Many gamble fall and became a compulsive gambler because they treat gambling as their personal income, wherein they became dependent to it where their decisions have no convictions at all. A compulsive gambler have always "What if?" in their mind wherein they keep thinking how much money that they can make from it without having risk management and also without managing their expectations.

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Quote from: pixie85 on January 14, 2023, 02:29:13 PM

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What Yogg need is the support from the people around him. Once he is sober then he can rebuild his career and settle all the debts. People are not going to trust him anymore but at least he can take steps to make things right.

Definitely yogg needs the support of his relatives, friends, and families, gambling addiction is hard to overcome since it is a serious condition that has a significant impact on the person's life. I hope yogg can be able to overcome his addiction and set things straight.

Yogg should have destroyed his copy of the private key so that he won't be tempted to steal the funds deposited at those addresses. It is sad to think that yogg, being one of the most trusted people in this forum backstabbed the people who trusted him because of the said gambling addiction.

The problem is his malicious intent because he was supposed to destroy them and told the buyers that he did but it was a lie. I don't think that it's just addiction. Addiction leads to destruction of your own wealth. When it leads you to steal from others it makes you a criminal. He's not just another addict. He's a thief.

Definitely, this is the issue and aside from being a thief, might fall under fraud. Since he lied and mislead people into believing that he destroyed the private key and later found out that he kept it and resulted in him stealing the fund.

Quote from: pixie85 on January 14, 2023, 02:29:13 PM

Since I follow the don't trust - verify rule, I'd never get caught up in this scam. I'd treat the item as a gadget, maybe an investment since they can go up in value.

Past experience makes me think like this too, don't trust people on the internet Cheesy

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Quote from: pixie85 on January 14, 2023, 02:29:13 PM

Now it's a strange situation where on one hand these wallets were involved in a scam but on the other there won't be any more of them made so they could go up or down depending on the community's approach.

This is one of the interesting turns of the event, since the item is collectibles, those who tampered with their stuff to sweep the BTC funded in it themselves will definitely get devalued. I wonder what would be the difference in price if the item gets hot due to the scandal attached to it.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 15, 2023, 02:56:33 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on January 13, 2023, 12:36:15 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on January 13, 2023, 11:38:06 AM

I don't know this case, but maybe someone could make this clear, because I'm confused... You guys bought cold wallets from someone who made the keys for you, not thinking about whether he still holds the private keys for these wallets, then deposited bitcoin to these addresses and got them stolen?
It's like buying a used trezor or ledger and depositing to the existing addresses. Did the pandemic brainwash you or something?

This is not a gambling problem. This is a scammer exploiting an opportunity by simply picking up money some people sent his way!

Who wants to buy a wallet from me? I'll make you guys some nice addresses to use and they're going to be free! Any takers? Cheesy

The person who created these collectibles was once a trusted member of this forum. He had a good reputation right before someone who owned his collectible noticed that his funds from those collectibles were swiped. As per the creator of this collectible, all of the files/keys from the collectibles he sells, he destroy immediately. But unfortunately, there is one collectible set to which he didn't delete all of the files which he then used to get money from and gamble it all away (as for owlcatz who came in contact with him).

I think this may not be a gambling discussion per se, but it's a textbook example of how gamblers can throw everything away just to get their fill of their gambling hunger. Mind you, his reputation is years in the making, but because of his gambling itch he just threw it all away.

Exactly.That is compulsive gambling,it can destroy anyone,including trusted members of this forum and not only,we have seen people doing much worse things than this.When a person becomes addicted to such levels the only thing who can help him is the professional help,the fact that he didn't show any sign that he wanted to recover says a lot about gambling addiction which distorts one person's reality and this person no matter who this is cannot think clearly or cold headed.Gamblers have thrown away their families,wives,jobs and this is just another such story unfortunately.

The sad part of being addicted, you are right an addicted gambler can throw everything for the sake of gambling, and only a professional help can assist the person to allow the threatment, though it still depend from how willing the person was, nothing is different to any other kind of bad addictions as it really ruined your life.

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Scammers like to blame other people or things for their behavior. As if it excuses them. Maybe it was because of gambling maybe (and most likely) it was not. If were were to excuse these actions as the result of a real sickness, like addiction, then we are basically forgiving them for what they did. I do not think that is a good idea. No sympathy for criminals.

There is never an excuse for stealing from other people. This whole "gambling addiction" spin is a pile of horsecrap.

I hope he gets what he deserves.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 13, 2023, 12:36:15 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on January 13, 2023, 11:38:06 AM

I don't know this case, but maybe someone could make this clear, because I'm confused... You guys bought cold wallets from someone who made the keys for you, not thinking about whether he still holds the private keys for these wallets, then deposited bitcoin to these addresses and got them stolen?
It's like buying a used trezor or ledger and depositing to the existing addresses. Did the pandemic brainwash you or something?

This is not a gambling problem. This is a scammer exploiting an opportunity by simply picking up money some people sent his way!

Who wants to buy a wallet from me? I'll make you guys some nice addresses to use and they're going to be free! Any takers? Cheesy

The person who created these collectibles was once a trusted member of this forum. He had a good reputation right before someone who owned his collectible noticed that his funds from those collectibles were swiped. As per the creator of this collectible, all of the files/keys from the collectibles he sells, he destroy immediately. But unfortunately, there is one collectible set to which he didn't delete all of the files which he then used to get money from and gamble it all away (as for owlcatz who came in contact with him).

I think this may not be a gambling discussion per se, but it's a textbook example of how gamblers can throw everything away just to get their fill of their gambling hunger. Mind you, his reputation is years in the making, but because of his gambling itch he just threw it all away.

Exactly.That is compulsive gambling,it can destroy anyone,including trusted members of this forum and not only,we have seen people doing much worse things than this.When a person becomes addicted to such levels the only thing who can help him is the professional help,the fact that he didn't show any sign that he wanted to recover says a lot about gambling addiction which distorts one person's reality and this person no matter who this is cannot think clearly or cold headed.Gamblers have thrown away their families,wives,jobs and this is just another such story unfortunately.

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Unfortunately, there are many people who suffer from a huge gambling addiction. There is very little you can do about that as a community. You can also hardly blame the gambling sites for continuing to advertise a lot, in the end the gambling addicts are the people from whom companies earn the most money in the long run. There are many different tragic stories, but there are also stories of people who like to gamble occasionally for fun. Then you should think of a casino rather than an online gambling site. I have never been so engrossed in the numbers and statistics of people who are addicted to the forum. Many addicts also prefer to keep that information to themselves.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on January 15, 2023, 01:59:30 PM

Quote from: Slow death on January 14, 2023, 03:54:59 PM

addiction is something that corrupts even the person who considered himself as honest as possible, that's why even when a person is addicted we can't keep condemning him, judging as if we were immune to addiction, anyone can become addicted to games It's bad luck, when a person is addicted everyone around that person needs to be patient, forgive the addicted person's actions and then provide emotional support to the addict. I already had an addicted relative, he even took our goods and went to sell without us knowing to support the addiction and then disappeared because he was afraid and ashamed to return home

gambling addicts are worse than alcohol addicts, this is because gambling addicts always believe that when they gamble they will be luckier and will win a lot of money, when they lose they come back to believing that they need to gamble more because luck will be with them. them and it will be different

You are on point, and I will continue to tell people that we should not entirely judge others because we are free from their plagues, mental prowess varies among human beings. Initially, I judge people on addiction because I viewed addiction as a choice, this was as to why they could not prevent it before it eats deep into them. But on second thought, we do not have the mental power to challenge situations the same way, still, those that are addicted would not be totally exonerated from the blame, but when they are in, they need help instead of judging them.

All my life I have stayed away from trouble and addiction, this is why I made the last point, I am alert and conscious of my actions. There was a time that I was getting addicted to Lotto, I made sure that I forced myself from not doing it throughout that time before it gets worse, and it works till today. Anyone can discipline themselves to be responsible too.

Not surprising for most people on being judgmental towards other peoples mistakes and flaws and this isnt something shocking on where there are ones might be that in concern or would be going into that mindful path
on someones demise but there are most people who would really be criticizing which we cant really blame them.Its always been bad on making use of money which it isnt really yours which it would really be that
normal to have those bad looks and words towards it.Addiction would really be that corrupting on someones life if you arent really that good on controlling your emotion and thinking towards things.I dont believe that
there's no time that they had realize that they are going beyond borders no matter how bad the situation or looks like but still there is really a time that you are aware on what you are doing.It is really just that you
do make out a choice and decides to tolerate and this one messes up your life.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 14, 2023, 03:54:59 PM

addiction is something that corrupts even the person who considered himself as honest as possible, that's why even when a person is addicted we can't keep condemning him, judging as if we were immune to addiction, anyone can become addicted to games It's bad luck, when a person is addicted everyone around that person needs to be patient, forgive the addicted person's actions and then provide emotional support to the addict. I already had an addicted relative, he even took our goods and went to sell without us knowing to support the addiction and then disappeared because he was afraid and ashamed to return home

gambling addicts are worse than alcohol addicts, this is because gambling addicts always believe that when they gamble they will be luckier and will win a lot of money, when they lose they come back to believing that they need to gamble more because luck will be with them. them and it will be different

You are on point, and I will continue to tell people that we should not entirely judge others because we are free from their plagues, mental prowess varies among human beings. Initially, I judge people on addiction because I viewed addiction as a choice, this was as to why they could not prevent it before it eats deep into them. But on second thought, we do not have the mental power to challenge situations the same way, still, those that are addicted would not be totally exonerated from the blame, but when they are in, they need help instead of judging them.

All my life I have stayed away from trouble and addiction, this is why I made the last point, I am alert and conscious of my actions. There was a time that I was getting addicted to Lotto, I made sure that I forced myself from not doing it throughout that time before it gets worse, and it works till today. Anyone can discipline themselves to be responsible too.

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Quote from: Genemind on January 14, 2023, 04:04:41 PM

It's sad that people can ruin everything just because of gambling addiction. I know a lot of collectors and even trust on the forum had been damaged because of this. I can't imagine that even a reputable member can throw away anything just for money and gambling addiction. I just hope everyone will get over this and Yogg will face the consequences of his actions. Keep your money safe everyone and don't get swallowed by gambling addiction. Take this mishap as what gambling addiction can do to anyone.

When someone is out of his own control because of addiction (regardless what kind of addiction), he/she can do anything unexpectedly.
Even worst there are many stories of addicted gambler decided to end their life because they have too much debt as the effect of their addiction.
In this case, I do not know yogg personally and I do not even know that he is a gambler as it is rare to see him active in gambling board.
What have just happened shock me tbh, he is known as one of trusted members in this forum but ended up like this due to gambling addiction.

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What Yogg need is the support from the people around him. Once he is sober then he can rebuild his career and settle all the debts. People are not going to trust him anymore but at least he can take steps to make things right.

Definitely yogg needs the support of his relatives, friends, and families, gambling addiction is hard to overcome since it is a serious condition that has a significant impact on the person's life. I hope yogg can be able to overcome his addiction and set things straight.

Yogg should have destroyed his copy of the private key so that he won't be tempted to steal the funds deposited at those addresses. It is sad to think that yogg, being one of the most trusted people in this forum backstabbed the people who trusted him because of the said gambling addiction.

The problem is his malicious intent because he was supposed to destroy them and told the buyers that he did but it was a lie. I don't think that it's just addiction. Addiction leads to destruction of your own wealth. When it leads you to steal from others it makes you a criminal. He's not just another addict. He's a thief.

Since I follow the don't trust - verify rule, I'd never get caught up in this scam. I'd treat the item as a gadget, maybe an investment since they can go up in value.

Now it's a strange situation where on one hand these wallets were involved in a scam but on the other there won't be any more of them made so they could go up or down depending on the community's approach.

I am curious. In my life I never had an interest for collectible. The collectible section seems very interesting place for few members, not sure how large it is. When they buy a collectible, the address of the printed coin/metal/card is pre-filled with coins? Then whoever buy it, they are trusting the sender.

If this is the case then how it's even going with the concept of bitcoin LOL

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I am just coming from the thread and I must say that, it is indeed a pathetic situation.
Gambling addiction has destroyed a lot of lives, and not just the life of the addictive gamblers but also, the lives of those around them or have done business with them - a reference being the incident mentioned in the OP.

The warning against addictive gambling will never be over emphazed, its a topic that will never be too old to discuss, gamblers need to be constantly updated on this so that everyone can put themselves in check, let us please gamble responsibly and not allow ourselves to be carried away, less we destroy ourselves and some other innocent lives as well.

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Quote from: minime0105 on January 14, 2023, 06:01:35 PM

Note a gambler see any fund or property available as an opportunity to win big he encourage himself when ever he loss and always want to go for more, gambling is very addictive in such a way that a real gamble can do anything to gamble, it so sad that people can gamble with anything, the word addiction comes with different negativity that involves human misbehavior, in conclusion whatever you do as a human that brings distrust or suspicion is not worth it so you should seek a redress as early as you can before it get worst to the extent of not solvable.

Not every gambler sees any fund or property available as an opportunity to win big. I believe only those who have gambling problems see it that way. Take notice, not all gamblers are addicted to gambling so those who are not addicted to gambling are still in control and sane to think that they only need money they can afford to lose to get a good win.

I do agree that gambling is created to be addictive so we should always have a self-check regularly to know changes that is happening in our way of engaging with gambling activities.

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Quote from: minime0105 on January 14, 2023, 06:01:35 PM

Note a gambler see any fund or property available as an opportunity to win big he encourage himself when ever he loss and always want to go for more, gambling is very addictive in such a way that a real gamble can do anything to gamble, it so sad that people can gamble with anything, the word addiction comes with different negativity that involves human misbehavior, in conclusion whatever you do as a human that brings distrust or suspicion is not worth it so you should seek a redress as early as you can before it get worst to the extent of not solvable.

I can agree to that, it's uncontrollable once you get engage too much, if you still see chances not to continue or I mean if you still have the chance to back out and stop doing it, better to do your best to avoid getting addicted, though we can't really say that it can be done just like that, those addicted gamblers also doesn't want to be in the situation.

It's the un-control lust that they wanted to fulfil in each try that they gamble. Worse, if they lose, they will keep trying no matter what to recover and it will end up in a much worse situation.

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Note a gambler see any fund or property available as an opportunity to win big he encourage himself when ever he loss and always want to go for more, gambling is very addictive in such a way that a real gamble can do anything to gamble, it so sad that people can gamble with anything, the word addiction comes with different negativity that involves human misbehavior, in conclusion whatever you do as a human that brings distrust or suspicion is not worth it so you should seek a redress as early as you can before it get worst to the extent of not solvable.

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this is why many gamblers find it difficult to stop stopping their addiction so they dare to commit any crime in order to satisfy their desire to gamble and spend the money from the theft they did, they will never stop until they can control themselves

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Quote from: Cantsay on January 14, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

Mehn!!!! This is some f**ked up shit. Damn!!!
With what I have read so far I think the guy here; yogg or whatever the f**K the scum his called, has ruined his life in this forum and also his card business has been ruined as well. I just hope he f**king burn in hell for this shit.

Sadly someone who happen replaced him as the CEO of that company is greatly affected because of yogg's action.

Quote from: Cantsay on January 14, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

When gamblers are adviced to reduce their gambling habit the think we're trying to harm them or maybe we're jealous of the fact that they guts to gamble more than they should and we don't. Now this is the result of been a gambling addict.

Damn!! One more time. I just went through all the positive reviews he has managed to get and just keep thinking about how he threw all that away just for some few penny.

That is what compulsive gambling do, the uncontrol urge made a person spend the amount of money whether it is his or not thinking that he will win to replace the lost amount. The torturing part of this uncontrol urge is that, the addicted person knows that he is doing a bad thing and yet can't help but to follow the urge to gamble. It is just another sad event where a reputable person got destroyed by gambling addiction.

( Though I still think that this incident is planned as early as when the collectibles are being created because he did not destroy his copy of the private keys of the said items)

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Mehn!!!! This is some f**ked up shit. Damn!!!
With what I have read so far I think the guy here; yogg or whatever the f**K the scum his called, has ruined his life in this forum and also his card business has been ruined as well. I just hope he f**king burn in hell for this shit.

When gamblers are adviced to reduce their gambling habit the think we're trying to harm them or maybe we're jealous of the fact that they guts to gamble more than they should and we don't. Now this is the result of been a gambling addict.

Damn!! One more time. I just went through all the positive reviews he has managed to get and just keep thinking about how he threw all that away just for some few penny.

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