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~ Only, Feng Shui or not, don't bet more than you can afford to lose. Just in case. Wink

We can always be strategic when it comes to gambling and we could also rely on our personal beliefs but we can't expect others to have the same strategy or belief as we do. Fengshui I think won't work especially for those who don't believe in it. It's just a good thing that we have the freedom to rely on our beliefs, culture, and faith in gambling.

Absolutely. In a free world we can do whatever we want for our entertainment as long as it doesn't hurt others. But the thing is that when you, relying on your beliefs, put all your family's money at risk, there's a good probability of someone being hurt. Someone close to you, someone you love. Don't do that.

In addition to this matter, All gamblers who enter a gambling do not want to lose, but most of them want to win big and get the real luck and not the bad luck of playing as a gambler. So this is one of the reasons that other gamblers believe that they hold the Feng-shui of the Chinese people because they have nothing to lose if they hold this kind of superstition and apply it to their gambling habit.

Holding Fengshui? what you do mean? Its a belief and not something you could hold unless if you are telling on indirect way then its considerable but its true that Chinese people
do have this kind of belief or something that it is already part of their culture which it is really that normal that they would really be having that kind of actions but i do agree on some
people which had clarified about fenshui which it isnt a behavior but rather placement of things to get or attract positive energy or vibe which if we do really think generally and
apply it on gambling activity then i dont really believe much about relevance but hey its their belief so lets just respect it.

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what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

Not every Chinese really believes in Feng Shui. It's still a personal choice. To some, it just became a part of their tradition and maybe upbringing as well.

I guess everything is about business nowadays. Charms and other things that are believed to bring good luck and abundance are being sold to the market which some people are fond of. It's not really a bad thing as long as they don't scam or utter false promises for the sake of profit. some people just like those kind of things after all because it is aesthetically pleasing and perhaps because they were influenced to. Either way, to each his own.

Yes, but research shows that there's only less than one-third of the whole Chinese population who don't believe in Feng Shui at all. So we can still say that it's being practiced and passed down through generations until this very day and in the future, there will be still believers and followers of their culture.

As much as I wanted to know about the roots of these beliefs, I find it hard to understand because of their complexities and other things that is involved in it. It's just amazing for me that these beliefs is still passed down. The only thing that I consider downside of this is that many people around the world are selling Feng Shui stuff that is believed to be lucky for the person who will buy it but they don't even practice Feng Shui themselves and don't know how to explain it further.

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We can always be strategic when it comes to gambling and we could also rely on our personal beliefs but we can't expect others to have the same strategy or belief as we do. Fengshui I think won't work especially for those who don't believe in it. It's just a good thing that we have the freedom to rely on our beliefs, culture, and faith in gambling.

Absolutely. In a free world we can do whatever we want for our entertainment as long as it doesn't hurt others. But the thing is that when you, relying on your beliefs, put all your family's money at risk, there's a good probability of someone being hurt. Someone close to you, someone you love. Don't do that.

In addition to this matter, All gamblers who enter a gambling do not want to lose, but most of them want to win big and get the real luck and not the bad luck of playing as a gambler. So this is one of the reasons that other gamblers believe that they hold the Feng-shui of the Chinese people because they have nothing to lose if they hold this kind of superstition and apply it to their gambling habit.

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~ Luck in gambling is an entity independent of other factors. Luck just exists. Some people are lucky in gambling. They win big sums of money. That is what fascinates people. Single combat with fate (luck).

I agree, only it's not like some people can be inherently luckier in gambling than others. We can never say in advance who's more lucky. Only later, after someone won a big amount we say, "Oh, he's a lucky bastard!" Only post factum. And nothing, absolutely nothing, including Feng shui, can change that.

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Quote from: rodskee on August 08, 2022, 12:26:20 AM

what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

Not every Chinese really believes in Feng Shui. It's still a personal choice. To some, it just became a part of their tradition and maybe upbringing as well.

I guess everything is about business nowadays. Charms and other things that are believed to bring good luck and abundance are being sold to the market which some people are fond of. It's not really a bad thing as long as they don't scam or utter false promises for the sake of profit. some people just like those kind of things after all because it is aesthetically pleasing and perhaps because they were influenced to. Either way, to each his own.

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Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

Fengshui practice is not only involved in the business aspect of Chinese people, almost most Chinese people involve the culture of their ancestors in their daily lives.
not infrequently modern society still adopts these traditions, even for those who already have a religion.

we can even see that there are many fengshui practices applied to buildings or places of business, one example of which is the statue and layout that is the theme of this discussion. maybe the Chinese millennial youth don't really care about this tradition. however, this practice still exists today whether you believe in it or not, it is your personal right.

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Quote from: rodskee on August 09, 2022, 02:25:48 AM

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If you compare the Chinese with other nations, you will conclude that they are not more fortunate than other nations. And the only factors influencing good luck may be perseverance and diligence. So Feng Shui is just a belief that helps you find inner peace and nothing more. If someone likes to believe in something, that is their choice.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 08, 2022, 03:29:57 PM

Quote from: rodskee on August 08, 2022, 12:26:20 AM

what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

Well but very few chinese that is not a believer , because I use to work in place where Chinese is the majority and yes almost everyone is either wearing Lucky charm or their house is filled with those luck from Fengshui so maybe at least 70-90% of chinese community are still believer , but for like me that whos not that complete believer yet i respect their belief and culture .

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Quote from: rodskee on August 08, 2022, 12:26:20 AM

what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

Fengshui does involved placement of things and i dont know on whats the relevance of this thing when it comes to gambling? Chants and behavioral aspect is different from placement of things but in general
essence it do still share up on the same goal or idea which its true that not all would really be that believer even they are living on the same country or being simply a Chinese but pretty sure that most of them
does share up on the same belief since this is really a part of their culture and i dont see anything wrong if someone do apply these things into their gambling activity.It doesnt matter
as long they arent putting someone to harm then lets just respect on what they are believing.

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Quote from: rodskee on August 08, 2022, 12:26:20 AM

what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

Well, you're quite right about that but that is in the old times because nowadays, not all Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui nor used it in their daily lives or as a lucky charm. So, I think it's not certain to say that all Chinese folks that have scattered almost throughout the world are Feng Shui believers or a follower.

Personally, I don't really believe in these kinds of things but don't take it wrong because I understand and respect their beliefs about it. It's just that I see Feng Shui more as a business for the Chinese people. Just my thought though.

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Precisely, they are doing an extra mile to find an edge and to the point that they will use superstitions to win.

There's no question about that. The essence of doing it is to find ways on how to win even it's not being proven, but there are

people who are willing to do it and spend an additional budget for that kind of rituals. We just need to respect and let them do

whatever they've thought that will help them to succeed.

right, we can only respect what they believe instead of insulting it

One of the most entrenched superstitions in the area around me is that people who are under the stairs will be unlucky, so the stairs in almost all buildings here should not be in a place where people usually do their activities because it will bring great misfortune to people, including gamblers

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 08, 2022, 11:48:10 AM

Precisely, they are doing an extra mile to find an edge and to the point that they will use superstitions to win.

There's no question about that. The essence of doing it is to find ways on how to win even it's not being proven, but there are

people who are willing to do it and spend an additional budget for that kind of rituals. We just need to respect and let them do

whatever they've thought that will help them to succeed.

of course we must respect those who perform rituals before or after gambling. they do it all because they think the ritual is able to give good luck when playing gambling and getting a win. well even though it's not necessarily going to get lucky but still we have to appreciate it.
i myself sometimes before starting to gamble do a small ritual hoping luck is on my side

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I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

Well, people won't bother doing stuff like that if they don't intend to win. As a matter of fact, people who are so eager to do those ceremonies and rituals or even consulting Feng Shui are the one who wanted to win the most since they had taken the extra step to at least help them to have more chance of winning..

Precisely, they are doing an extra mile to find an edge and to the point that they will use superstitions to win.

There's no question about that. The essence of doing it is to find ways on how to win even it's not being proven, but there are

people who are willing to do it and spend an additional budget for that kind of rituals. We just need to respect and let them do

whatever they've thought that will help them to succeed.

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The number Four is unlucky because it sounds like the Chinese word for “death.” This is why many hotels in Las Vegas skip floor numbers that start with the number four. The Rio Las Vegas, for example, is advertised as having 51 floors, but if you deduct the missing 40-49, it actually has just 41. The Encore is also missing floors 40-49.

So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

For honest, I think this is because a lot of wealthy tourists from Asia. In 1930th all casinos has number 4 with not a big problem. And it would still has it, but since there a lot of wealthy chineese guys who want to see Las-Vegas, casinos and hotels started to follow Fengshui.

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How about you? Do you have Fengshui practice that you're observing when you are about to play or while playing

No, i do not believe in such things. I believe in math and probability theory, so i can calculate what i need.

There are symbols and faces attached to things/ game which requires money.
Chines have a stroung believe is superstitiousness and they are very rigid in their dealing - so whatever they do is - they do it with firm belief.

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so far some countries still have traditional local gambling but for feng shui gambling I have not found anymore, now the digital world has developed and more children or teenagers spend their time in front of their computers or smartphones to try to make money with fast.

Maybe feng shui is not used anymore, especially among teenagers or adults, but I think there are still people who still use feng shui and we just don't know it. Maybe in traditional local gambling in countries that still have a culture that uses it because they think that life is governed by it and we must follow these rules, including in playing gambling.

Yes, I think that Feng Shui is not that often used anymore these days because the people these days are so focused in other things together with the advancement of technologies. But in Asia, I think it's still a thing especially for the Chinese people and their neighboring countries.

Feng Shui for me is just a tool to make us confident and feel lucky but it won't be that effective either if we don't work hard for it. Nevertheless, with or without that things, we make our own fate and it's up to us what we want to our lives.

I think Feng Shui is still used in China or at least the Chinese people, whether living in China or other countries. Those who learn the science of Feng Shui still use it for various purposes and there may also be those who use it for gambling.

what i do believe is that Not only in China but in the whole world as we knew that Chinese scattered around the world and if there is chinese then there will be a fengshui believer and follower.

and also there are fengshui experts now that offers their skills for the businessmen and yeah many are subscribing with this.

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Although Feng Shui is like a tool to make us confident, we should not rely too much on how we gamble on Feng Sui because if the result is different from what we get from Feng Shui, we will be disappointed.

well that is the reality about this , because Luck is our weapon to win and gambling and if fengshui is not confidently bringing us then there is nothing to be disappointed .

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As long you dont hurt others or making yourself hurt or something in between two then i dont see anything wrong with it.People are just too judgemental on what others been doing.

I also don't understand why other people are taking things seriously if someone uses the art of Fengshui in gambling.

After all, these people that use lucky stuff take care of their bankroll. Why other people should bother with that?

Correct. Let's just mind our own business and let these people just do what they want.

The point stated above as long as you don't hurt anyone and you are not hurt is very important and that is something I have been thinking recently.

I have seen people who don't minding hurting people emotionally, mentally or financially and physically and that is something which I have gone through - emotional and financial loss - and I alway think in a free time about what people have done to me.

If Fengshui or any traditional belief helps people succeed in gambling or if it gives them more confidence to enjoy the game, I see nothing wrong with it. We always have the freedom to choose and I guess people who believe in Fenshui find it as an effective strategy to win. We have different beliefs and we could always apply what's effective for us.

I think more of it as a tool to boost our confidence and give us comfort while we're betting/gambling but that is just an if on my side because I don't really believe in these things like Feng Shui or Mantra at all, but I understand and respect people who have a different view and has belief towards Feng Shui as they think it gives them luck or anything like that. As long as they respect mine then they will receive the same treatment from me.

Well that is a very valid point, people should respect beliefs and everything that has to do with similar things, however as you say, it is very true, there are people who are looking for all kinds of amulets, or beliefs, even clinging to images to be able to win in certain things, and this is something that in the end does not harm anyone, I think that each person has their way of doing things, of playing and making decisions and as long as it does not disturb the tranquility of others it is valid everything, at least I see it that way, in my case I don't cling to that kind of things, but if I respect them, sometimes they can move a special type of energy that can be qeu if things turn out for them.

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The number Four is unlucky because it sounds like the Chinese word for “death.” This is why many hotels in Las Vegas skip floor numbers that start with the number four. The Rio Las Vegas, for example, is advertised as having 51 floors, but if you deduct the missing 40-49, it actually has just 41. The Encore is also missing floors 40-49.

So you see even if everything depends on luck and circumstances there are many people even non-Chinese are following Fengshui practices.

For honest, I think this is because a lot of wealthy tourists from Asia. In 1930th all casinos has number 4 with not a big problem. And it would still has it, but since there a lot of wealthy chineese guys who want to see Las-Vegas, casinos and hotels started to follow Fengshui.

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How about you? Do you have Fengshui practice that you're observing when you are about to play or while playing

No, i do not believe in such things. I believe in math and probability theory, so i can calculate what i need.

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I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

Last year - I went to Singapore and from there - I Brought lucky charms. The shopkeeper said it brings in good fortune and money when hanged with the main entrance. I was so unfortunate after I brought that charms. Last week I threw them away. Did not work for me.
Maybe they are helpful for other.

This is evidence that it most of the superstitions people believed aren't true. The said effect would probably be only a coincidence and may not really have an effect on people.

Quote from: carlisle1 on August 05, 2022, 04:20:50 AM

I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

Well, people won't bother doing stuff like that if they don't intend to win. As a matter of fact, people who are so eager to do those ceremonies and rituals or even consulting Feng Shui are the one who wanted to win the most since they had taken the extra step to at least help them to have more chance of winning..

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There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

At the very least, they must be able to adapt to their environment before they can adjust to their wishes. If they don't, I'm afraid there will be unwanted friction and it could end up causing something bad for everyone. If they can follow well, I'm sure nothing will happen and everything around them can also get better so that the environment will slowly change into a good situation. We don't want anything bad to happen either, right?

I don't see that there will be some effect for others that it will be bad for them. It's just a belief and if anything goes wrong, it's to those that have that belief and they'll just move on afterward.
Whether you don't wish them misfortune or whatnot, there's really nothing you can do with such decisions being applied by them for these beliefs that they've got like feng shui.

I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

Not only just wanted to win but also they do really want to prove out that there are strategies that do really work and thats the reason on why they are really keep on doing it until they do win.

If it losses then they would just simply on denial and would continue on doing it and this is really a very common behavior on most gamblers thats why we do really end up on lots of

strategies that we do keep on doing it and really believe that there are things on this world which could really affect your winning rate.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 05, 2022, 04:20:50 AM

I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

Last year - I went to Singapore and from there - I Brought lucky charms. The shopkeeper said it brings in good fortune and money when hanged with the main entrance. I was so unfortunate after I brought that charms. Last week I threw them away. Did not work for me.
Maybe they are helpful for other.

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