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There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

At the very least, they must be able to adapt to their environment before they can adjust to their wishes. If they don't, I'm afraid there will be unwanted friction and it could end up causing something bad for everyone. If they can follow well, I'm sure nothing will happen and everything around them can also get better so that the environment will slowly change into a good situation. We don't want anything bad to happen either, right?

I don't see that there will be some effect for others that it will be bad for them. It's just a belief and if anything goes wrong, it's to those that have that belief and they'll just move on afterward.
Whether you don't wish them misfortune or whatnot, there's really nothing you can do with such decisions being applied by them for these beliefs that they've got like feng shui.

I echo your sentiment, it is there personal believe and they are the one who will benefits or loss if they continue to believe on such

kind of supernatural, if they lose they will move forward same deal with people who don't believe in it, they will try to win and if they lose

they will just re-try their gambling and see if luck will permits them to win. People who believes in some additional luck kind of rituals

are also people who just wanted to win.

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There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

At the very least, they must be able to adapt to their environment before they can adjust to their wishes. If they don't, I'm afraid there will be unwanted friction and it could end up causing something bad for everyone. If they can follow well, I'm sure nothing will happen and everything around them can also get better so that the environment will slowly change into a good situation. We don't want anything bad to happen either, right?

I don't see that there will be some effect for others that it will be bad for them. It's just a belief and if anything goes wrong, it's to those that have that belief and they'll just move on afterward.
Whether you don't wish them misfortune or whatnot, there's really nothing you can do with such decisions being applied by them for these beliefs that they've got like feng shui.

I don't want them to be unlucky or bad or anything because they are part of the community that lives around us. So it would be better if we could respect their beliefs and not interfere with each other in their affairs because we don't know exactly what and how. We can let them keep practicing feng shui if they still want to use it because it is everyone's freedom to do what they want.

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I greatly agree gambling is never been a game of luck where FENG SHUI is deeply connected, it is a game of chance, even the definition tells us what it is. And with a chance is a mathematical calculation of probability and occurrence. So basically when we gamble we always have this probability or chance to win and I agree with what Wind_Fury stated, in the long run, due to house edge, we might lose everything if we failed to end our session in the right time.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

It depends, if you are playing a game of skill like poker then luck while important is not the determining factor but your skill, however poker is one of the few exceptions where this is true.

For most of the games you are right, people will have to rely 100% on their luck and if they do not have it then they will never get any positive results, while those which are fortunate to have it could even become incredibly rich under the right circumstances.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

But gambling should not be seen that way, I know it is a game of luck but people should always consider that losing is more possible in gambling than the luck they are talking about.

It shouldn't be viewed that way but sadly, that's exactly what the most people sees just like the fact that the gambling shall only be seek if a certain person is looking for an entertainment but in reality, people are gambling in chase of instant money that they forget that the odds are not always with them and the chances of losing is inevitable and that is the sad reality about the gambling yet we cannot blame them if they sees gambling as their only way to get rich.

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There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

At the very least, they must be able to adapt to their environment before they can adjust to their wishes. If they don't, I'm afraid there will be unwanted friction and it could end up causing something bad for everyone. If they can follow well, I'm sure nothing will happen and everything around them can also get better so that the environment will slowly change into a good situation. We don't want anything bad to happen either, right?

I don't see that there will be some effect for others that it will be bad for them. It's just a belief and if anything goes wrong, it's to those that have that belief and they'll just move on afterward.
Whether you don't wish them misfortune or whatnot, there's really nothing you can do with such decisions being applied by them for these beliefs that they've got like feng shui.

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Quote from: mia_houston on August 03, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

Expertise and strategy are really needed in gambling so that at least we can have greater confidence compared to those who play blindly gambling, but what you say is true, because luck is the main thing needed in gambling,

Most gamblers who gamble blindly are those who already have a predisposition to addiction, Excessive activity in gambling affects a person's psychology, so they no longer promote a healthy mindset.
In any gambling game, strategy is important, especially involving experience as a skill in the game to be played.

Quote from: mia_houston on August 03, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

in my opinion many of the gamblers who try various ways to be able to win the game either by sitting in certain cardinal directions and many even do mystical things just to get lucky in gambling, I think having intelligence does not necessarily win continuously if luck is not on our side.

in fact there are many people who practice things like that, by doing everything possible to get a win or luck in gambling, including people who use mysticism, whether it works or not I never know. I think this kind of behavior is no longer relevant today. The point is luck will always be the main factor in gambling.

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I don't quite agree with you. In gambling, as in real life, there are accidents through which a person can get rich without knowing it, but it does not depend on his religion, faith and his choice since randomness is built into the casino algorithm.

Someone can participate in the lottery his whole life, but did not get a lot, and someone can buy a ticket and get fabulously rich. That is what randomness is all about.

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

Yes, I agree with you!

This is the meaning of gambling. You can get rich even if you do not have a higher education, know nothing about the mathematical theory of probability and do not have a high IQ.

Luck in gambling is an entity independent of other factors. Luck just exists. Some people are lucky in gambling. They win big sums of money. That is what fascinates people. Single combat with fate (luck).

And that is why many players are superstitious. That is why the principles of feng shui are often used when organizing a new casino. Gambling and superstition are very similar concepts.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

But gambling should not be seen that way, I know it is a game of luck but people should always consider that losing is more possible in gambling than the luck they are talking about.

Quote from: Oilacris on August 03, 2022, 07:23:30 PM

Just let those people do on what they do believe and think off because sooner or later they would really able to realize the real thing when gambling reality slap into their faces.

We do have different taking and behavior towards gambling so just let other people do on what they do believe.

The superstitions have helped some people in the past and some people will use it to gamble until they fail and fail often. I see people that gamble more to not believe in any superstition because as they play often, they will realized that it is not working for them. People should just go on their own beliefs but I prefer strategies than superstitions.

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Many still believe in feng shui and that won't change. If they've grown up with that belief and think that it's very applicable to their lives, nothing will change.
As they live continually, that will be the belief that they've got because it's a matter of how they've seen the effects of it. They won't mind what the others are going to say because it's so effective for them and they've seen the belief of its good result.

Maybe they must adapt to their surroundings if they are still using Fengshui because other people will certainly not know or use it either. Thus, their lives can be in harmony with their surroundings and there will also be no problems arising. Other people will also not say things to them because the other person will not know what they are doing.

There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

At the very least, they must be able to adapt to their environment before they can adjust to their wishes. If they don't, I'm afraid there will be unwanted friction and it could end up causing something bad for everyone. If they can follow well, I'm sure nothing will happen and everything around them can also get better so that the environment will slowly change into a good situation. We don't want anything bad to happen either, right?

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I don't quite agree with you. In gambling, as in real life, there are accidents through which a person can get rich without knowing it, but it does not depend on his religion, faith and his choice since randomness is built into the casino algorithm.

You don't agree with Mathematical reality of the House Edge? As you have said, they are mere "accidents". In a long enouge time-line, the Math always prevails, and if the edge is consistently against you, you lose.

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Someone can participate in the lottery his whole life, but did not get a lot, and someone can buy a ticket and get fabulously rich. That is what randomness is all about.

How many people out of billions have won the lottery if they buy tickets in their whole life? Where is the consistency in beating the lottery? If everyone uses Fengshui, will luck change the Mathematical Probability, and give you an edge over the lottery?

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

Expertise and strategy are really needed in gambling so that at least we can have greater confidence compared to those who play blindly gambling, but what you say is true, because luck is the main thing needed in gambling, in my opinion many of the gamblers who try various ways to be able to win the game either by sitting in certain cardinal directions and many even do mystical things just to get lucky in gambling, I think having intelligence does not necessarily win continuously if luck is not on our side.

Gambling is for entertainment nothingless but people do all sorts of things just for them to prove out something that luck is something that could really be changed or influenced on the time
that they've been playing or even believing that it could really be that altered which we know that this is something impossible.

Just let those people do on what they do believe and think off because sooner or later they would really able to realize the real thing when gambling reality slap into their faces.

We do have different taking and behavior towards gambling so just let other people do on what they do believe.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 03, 2022, 01:52:32 AM

Quote from: blockman on August 02, 2022, 06:57:43 AM

Many still believe in feng shui and that won't change. If they've grown up with that belief and think that it's very applicable to their lives, nothing will change.
As they live continually, that will be the belief that they've got because it's a matter of how they've seen the effects of it. They won't mind what the others are going to say because it's so effective for them and they've seen the belief of its good result.

Maybe they must adapt to their surroundings if they are still using Fengshui because other people will certainly not know or use it either. Thus, their lives can be in harmony with their surroundings and there will also be no problems arising. Other people will also not say things to them because the other person will not know what they are doing.

There's no need for others to know it if they don't know it unless they want to apply it to their lives and try it. There's no need for them to adopt the surroundings IMO and that's how they get used to what they do and as well as get used to the surrounding that they're living with.
It's all about what they used to do and believe and so the others too, that's how they're going to live and deal with the others as well.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work.

Well, someone who has faith and belief just rely on it for the sake of luck.

What you've said is true that it's all about the algorithm and math and statistics that will actually show when you gamble.

Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

That's true but this is only for gambling, you'll never know if you're the lucky person and you have to try it for the results to come out.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 03, 2022, 01:55:23 PM

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

Expertise and strategy are really needed in gambling so that at least we can have greater confidence compared to those who play blindly gambling, but what you say is true, because luck is the main thing needed in gambling, in my opinion many of the gamblers who try various ways to be able to win the game either by sitting in certain cardinal directions and many even do mystical things just to get lucky in gambling, I think having intelligence does not necessarily win continuously if luck is not on our side.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 03, 2022, 02:48:04 AM

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I don't quite agree with you. In gambling, as in real life, there are accidents through which a person can get rich without knowing it, but it does not depend on his religion, faith and his choice since randomness is built into the casino algorithm.

Someone can participate in the lottery his whole life, but did not get a lot, and someone can buy a ticket and get fabulously rich. That is what randomness is all about.

I certainly agree. No matter how deep your faith is, and how knowledgable you are when it comes to mathematical thoery and algorithms, if you are not lucky in betting, your strategies will not work. Anyone, even those who are not skilled or educated can get rich instantly if they're destined to be lucky.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 03, 2022, 06:13:13 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on August 03, 2022, 02:53:44 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 03, 2022, 02:48:04 AM

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I don't quite agree with you. In gambling, as in real life, there are accidents through which a person can get rich without knowing it, but it does not depend on his religion, faith and his choice since randomness is built into the casino algorithm.

Someone can participate in the lottery his whole life, but did not get a lot, and someone can buy a ticket and get fabulously rich. That is what randomness is all about.

I agree, the house has the edge against every the gamblers who plays in their establishment but that same edge is not a guarantee to the casino that they always win against every gamblers who play and there will be always some of these gamblers who will go home smiling because the won a great amount of money.

If that is truly the case that the mathematical law and the house's edge is unbreakable then I bet there would be no people playing in the casino anymore because they know that they have no chance of winning even a slightest chance.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 03, 2022, 06:13:13 AM

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Haha you are very correct in pointing out that the mathematical expectation cannot be changed by Fenshui.

In my opinion, the most correct solution that will benefit the gambler is the study of game theory, mathematical expectation and probability theory. This will really help you to understand what are the chances of winning in this or that game.

Plus just have COMMON SENSE. In a time line long enough, if a player keeps playing, he/she can never win against the house which has a mathematical edge vs. him/her. He/she can position himself geographically in accordance to "Fengshui", still it cannot break the laws of mathematics for the player. There are no miracles, and there are no accidents in the physical universe.

I don't quite agree with you. In gambling, as in real life, there are accidents through which a person can get rich without knowing it, but it does not depend on his religion, faith and his choice since randomness is built into the casino algorithm.

Someone can participate in the lottery his whole life, but did not get a lot, and someone can buy a ticket and get fabulously rich. That is what randomness is all about.

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~ Only, Feng Shui or not, don't bet more than you can afford to lose. Just in case. Wink

We can always be strategic when it comes to gambling and we could also rely on our personal beliefs but we can't expect others to have the same strategy or belief as we do. Fengshui I think won't work especially for those who don't believe in it. It's just a good thing that we have the freedom to rely on our beliefs, culture, and faith in gambling.

Absolutely. In a free world we can do whatever we want for our entertainment as long as it doesn't hurt others. But the thing is that when you, relying on your beliefs, put all your family's money at risk, there's a good probability of someone being hurt. Someone close to you, someone you love. Don't do that.

I know quite a lot about feng shui because my girlfriend loves it pretty much. as for superstitions, I once watched a cool documentary about the fact that thoughts are material and soon transform into events. like a person sets himself up for certain events. of course I don't want to say that it works in poker for example, haha. it's not enough just to want to win a large sum, you also have to play well.

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Quote from: Cling18 on July 28, 2022, 10:22:21 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 28, 2022, 08:27:13 AM

~ Only, Feng Shui or not, don't bet more than you can afford to lose. Just in case. Wink

We can always be strategic when it comes to gambling and we could also rely on our personal beliefs but we can't expect others to have the same strategy or belief as we do. Fengshui I think won't work especially for those who don't believe in it. It's just a good thing that we have the freedom to rely on our beliefs, culture, and faith in gambling.

Absolutely. In a free world we can do whatever we want for our entertainment as long as it doesn't hurt others. But the thing is that when you, relying on your beliefs, put all your family's money at risk, there's a good probability of someone being hurt. Someone close to you, someone you love. Don't do that.

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