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Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much.

I notice the investment part on some gambling based campaigns.. It is confusing to me too.
Question is: Would the investors share the profits and loses with the owner or is it a guaranteed profit? What is the minimum investment?
Hope someone explains this better....

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Gambling site will even promise you heaven just to make you enter,invest and bet in their sites but the truth is theres nothing assuring you a profit,gambling will remain gambling and the most riskiest area of this community,so if you are not ready to lose then beware of this area

Investing in gambling is like betting for nothing,because nothings in reality that a gmbling sites will allow you just to win.instead all they want is for us to lose

well that is only part of thier marketing strategy . they will use promising words , banners , designs , etc .. in order to attract as much costumer but in reality gambling is still gambling and your chances of winning will depends on how lucky you are .

Quote from: Johnzky on December 24, 2018, 12:55:36 AM

Investing in gambling is like betting for nothing,because nothings in reality that a gmbling sites will allow you just to win.instead all they want is for us to lose

actually , there are gambling sites that offers investing . its just lending them your own money so that they can use it but this is more safer and can guarantee a sure profit than playing the actual gambling game .

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Quote from: Barbut on December 23, 2018, 04:27:04 AM

You can do nothing with empty hands, more you have more things you can do, same is with gambling. More money you have more games and strategies you can try, more you can risk and eventually you can win. Gambling has two sides, when someone win others are losing, when you lose others winning, on which side you wish to be you decide alone, there is no trick in it. You make your own destiny and casinos are promoting that.

That's well said, but please also keep in mind the Casino / Sportsbook owners themselves make money regardless of who wins between the 2 players, for instance over/under in some NBA games is 1.85 - that means regardless of what's gonna be - the house already pockets 15% (2.00 = 1.85).

In live betting it could be even worse, and yes, sometimes you might get 1.91 or 1.95 - but even this is a reflection of 5% - 9% that the house takes from you irrespective of the final result.

Why not? Someone found a way to connect two or more players, someone is taking care of security for that site and players who live their personal info, they have right to charge that. House needs maintenance, and we need to pay for that.
My friend keep in mind that in the end you can choose a side, if you think that casinos make money all the time with that house edge, feel free to invest in one and prove that, if you think that you are better than house you can try to beat the house. You can always practice both, why not, we are people we can do what we wish to do, if we have fun and we make profit in the same time its even better.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Gambling site will even promise you heaven just to make you enter,invest and bet in their sites but the truth is theres nothing assuring you a profit,gambling will remain gambling and the most riskiest area of this community,so if you are not ready to lose then beware of this area

Investing in gambling is like betting for nothing,because nothings in reality that a gmbling sites will allow you just to win.instead all they want is for us to lose

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Quote from: Barbut on December 23, 2018, 04:27:04 AM

You can do nothing with empty hands, more you have more things you can do, same is with gambling. More money you have more games and strategies you can try, more you can risk and eventually you can win. Gambling has two sides, when someone win others are losing, when you lose others winning, on which side you wish to be you decide alone, there is no trick in it. You make your own destiny and casinos are promoting that.

That's well said, but please also keep in mind the Casino / Sportsbook owners themselves make money regardless of who wins between the 2 players, for instance over/under in some NBA games is 1.85 - that means regardless of what's gonna be - the house already pockets 15% (2.00 = 1.85).

In live betting it could be even worse, and yes, sometimes you might get 1.91 or 1.95 - but even this is a reflection of 5% - 9% that the house takes from you irrespective of the final result.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

In gambling people will wlaway aim to earn good because as we all know eventhough our money will lose fast in gambling if you are good enough sometimes it may blow up win. Investment and gambling can somehow paired to each other. If you are gambling? Your earnings will put in a investment so that even if you play continuously, you are also winning at the same time. Like playing in vegascasino.io , while you are playing different method or differebt kind of games, you need to have investment so that you can enjoy playing while earning.

This is so true. I played at Vegas Casino and your investment/deposit to them have a 100% bonus on the first and a 50% bonus on the second, also every 3 reloads you get to have a 25% bonus. You see gambling is not about earning and having profits, I believe it belongs to the category of investment only that it has a very high risk or high chance of losing but still you have to put money to earn profit. So in simple words, you can't gamble if you have nothing at all. I hope you understand that those sites have pleasing advertisements so be careful where you invest to.

You can do nothing with empty hands, more you have more things you can do, same is with gambling. More money you have more games and strategies you can try, more you can risk and eventually you can win. Gambling has two sides, when someone win others are losing, when you lose others winning, on which side you wish to be you decide alone, there is no trick in it. You make your own destiny and casinos are promoting that.

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Quote from: onrise on November 07, 2018, 11:37:53 AM

Instead of making money it is more easy to lose the money rather than making money. People fail to understand this and consider it as a money making opportunity and start gambling. Then they realize that they have lost money and play then to recover the money and might even lose more money.

Well, you can't really stop people from gambling since they already know the feeling of winning, even though they are losing most of the time, they are not able to feel it since they feel more the presence of winning rather than losing. They are so desperate to win that they over-appreciate the one win over the regret of nine losses. People should be able to control themselves since it will be really troublesome spending most of their money into gambling rather than spending it on investments and their family's future.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on November 09, 2018, 12:30:12 AM

It is just obsession on how to make quick money through winnings in gambling. What they don't realize is the gradual losses which is much bigger than their winnings if added overtime. Then again, if gambling was just done for recreation then there would be no problem because it was just for past time.

Obsession with quick wealth without having to work hard for it but unfortunately, when it comes to gambling, the craziest thing is that most of them actually end up working their emotions so hard that if they had channel that energy of theirs which they put into gambling into something more productive, I am sure a lot will be doing pretty well by now.

Gambling and investment are basically two different scenarios, even if you do not know what the outcome would be like, at least in the former, you are depending on luck completely, and in the latter you are depending on your knowledge, skills, understanding in that area and a little bit of luck attached to it.

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

Gambling is their top priority because of different reason, In fact most of the people become tired of searching jobs or to start a business, therefore they find it more easy to put their money in gambling and get a quick response, but it is the most risky way of making money.

It is just obsession on how to make quick money through winnings in gambling. What they don't realize is the gradual losses which is much bigger than their winnings if added overtime. Then again, if gambling was just done for recreation then there would be no problem because it was just for past time.

Also, there is this tendency for gamblers (who obviously lose money over time) to persuade themselves that they are winning, they sometimes have very elaborate arguments proving what they say, while in reality it is simply their mind playing tricks on them. I know because I have some real life examples in my family.

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

Gambling is their top priority because of different reason, In fact most of the people become tired of searching jobs or to start a business, therefore they find it more easy to put their money in gambling and get a quick response, but it is the most risky way of making money.

It is just obsession on how to make quick money through winnings in gambling. What they don't realize is the gradual losses which is much bigger than their winnings if added overtime. Then again, if gambling was just done for recreation then there would be no problem because it was just for past time.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 22, 2018, 06:17:48 PM

Gambling sites of course does not always offer good profitable set-ups for their investors. What I mean for their investors are the gamblers which basically loose their bets maybe not always but it's 70% loss over 30% win.

And if the investor is not playing gambling and they only make an investment on the gambling site, then they can make a profit from the gambling. I think the investor can do this if they don't want to lose the money in the game because they want to make a profit only. And from this, they can expect to make a profit of 50% of their investment. Besides that, although the profit is not too big, at least they still make a profit from the gambling game.

Investing on gambling sites are profitable but not that much because we can see a lot of stories from the gambling investors but something is better than nothing it is the reason why they were investing on gambling sites so if someone wants to make huge money than gamble it rather than investing on it.

Yes, it's better to invest in gambling than playing gambling because we can earn money although not much. I think it's more profitable than just losing the money without a chance to recover. But for people who were often playing gambling, they don't invest in gambling because they think that will need a longer time before they can withdraw that money. We need to think twice what is benefits that we can take from the gambling games.

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Quote from: onrise on November 07, 2018, 11:37:53 AM

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

Gambling is their top priority because of different reason, In fact most of the people become tired of searching jobs or to start a business, therefore they find it more easy to put their money in gambling and get a quick response, but it is the most risky way of making money.

Instead of making money it is more easy to lose the money rather than making money. People fail to understand this and consider it as a money making opportunity and start gambling. Then they realize that they have lost money and play then to recover the money and might even lose more money.

Its just lots of people are trying to get money quick on gambling, many people see gambling as get rich quick and they dont understand that their chance of winning is less than their chance of losing but people still choose to continue playing gambling. I've seen lots of my friends losing in gambling, some even tried to sell personal things just so he can continue playing

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

Gambling is their top priority because of different reason, In fact most of the people become tired of searching jobs or to start a business, therefore they find it more easy to put their money in gambling and get a quick response, but it is the most risky way of making money.

Instead of making money it is more easy to lose the money rather than making money. People fail to understand this and consider it as a money making opportunity and start gambling. Then they realize that they have lost money and play then to recover the money and might even lose more money.

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

Gambling is their top priority because of different reason, In fact most of the people become tired of searching jobs or to start a business, therefore they find it more easy to put their money in gambling and get a quick response, but it is the most risky way of making money.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 22, 2018, 06:17:48 PM

Gambling sites of course does not always offer good profitable set-ups for their investors. What I mean for their investors are the gamblers which basically loose their bets maybe not always but it's 70% loss over 30% win.

And if the investor is not playing gambling and they only make an investment on the gambling site, then they can make a profit from the gambling. I think the investor can do this if they don't want to lose the money in the game because they want to make a profit only. And from this, they can expect to make a profit of 50% of their investment. Besides that, although the profit is not too big, at least they still make a profit from the gambling game.

Investing on gambling sites are profitable but not that much because we can see lot of stories from the gambling investors but something is better than nothing is is the reason why they were investing on gambling sites so if someone wants to make huge money than gamble it rather than investing on it.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 22, 2018, 06:17:48 PM

Gambling sites of course does not always offer good profitable set-ups for their investors. What I mean for their investors are the gamblers which basically loose their bets maybe not always but it's 70% loss over 30% win.

And if the investor is not playing gambling and they only make an investment on the gambling site, then they can make a profit from the gambling. I think the investor can do this if they don't want to lose the money in the game because they want to make a profit only. And from this, they can expect to make a profit of 50% of their investment. Besides that, although the profit is not too big, at least they still make a profit from the gambling game.

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I do not think people who put their money into gambling casinos as an investment really expect to get rich that quickly, I mean we all know that if you put up a lot of money you are still risking your money (hacking, wrong ev, seed problems, all kinds of issues that would make investors lose money) and if you put up a little than you are not going to make much anyway.

However, there are even more math going into this considering the higher the bankroll gets the less your investment will matter, hence if you do not keep putting up more than what the average increase of bankroll is your amount will get lower over time. Hence, investment into a casino is actually a very very long term investment or a very risky one.

I think the more important and safe way would probably be getting in at the early days when you can actually make more until it gets bigger and jump ship to another new one, be careful about the security tho, you do not want the casino you invested get robbed.

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that means if you get a big win, there must be players who lose in large numbers too. it will also happen to you sometime. so they promote their website to everyone with the same word, but the chances of winning are not the same.

People often says that it is not a hard work to go from one city to other to kill somebody. So likewise, this gambling effort can never be counted in good numbers whatever you are doing here. Things are quite simple and obvious brother that if you go in there, you would be coming out just as an addict who is ultimately going in there again and again. Go for something good and wise.

All those people who want to make something good in their lives keep on looking for the ways using which they can make some good earning and that they always try to invest their money at place which has higher chances of making them richer. Gambling is a self-suicide and that no wise person will ever go for it as he knows this thing quite well that it will only take away all his money from him.

But i don't think people are having the same mindset.Most of them tend to be more eager in gambling because they think that it can make them rich instantly.Greedines is what driving them.They will only realized the harmful effects of gambling if they got to experience it with theirselves.

They have no ideas and other ways to make a lot of money and get rich with it, they don't know where they have to invest and make lots of money. they just know gambling in their list, thats why they see gambling is a shortcut and the right method for them to be rich..

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maybe some gambling sites only promote a very promising victory if you can play gambling on the site because it can provide more lotteries, but if the gambling site can offer to everyone who plays in it to be able to invest means that the site is able to offer double benefits that can obtained

First of all, if don’t think there will be any site that will get investment from all players even if provides this option. Secondly, no one can win every, even most of the gambling games because the house does not make such offers. As far as someone is making an investment, it is pretty cool even if that is in the business of gambling. He will be making profits if the site earns any but playing this game is entirely different thing.

Actually anyone can invest on any gambling sites and it is quite profitable too and some sites have minimum investment amounts too.Even you can invest on bustadice site and many reputed members of our forum are part of investors in that site,for more details you can login to bustadice by clicking the signature below this post.

It is a much more civilized era than we have had in past few years and definitely we can invest in gambling sites as there are some websites which are famous, legit and not a scam. But I think personally that it is much better for the person to invest in some business rather than investing your money in some online site because it can be a scam and your country would be having no benefit from this investment.

So in your saying as we have any easy access to everything so it depends upon us that where we want to spend our money. Some people would lie to create a business out of it and there will be others who would be investing that money in cryptos or something like that. I also will come with a business rather than to invest it online because I cannot risk my money on something which can end up at any time.

Look, the money you have right now with you might have been earned through big efforts and hard work. I don’t think so that any person wants to just put in his money so stupidly in anything there for you. We believe in hard work but that hard work must be put in something amazing. The thing that can make your investment increased and that can make you a profitable person.

If something called as investment it also comes with risks tho,but what kind of investment and odds of making profits from it much important rather than investing on something just like gambling.Investing on business can be some people's choice but it needs effort too but others looks for passive which just give profits as well as loss but we don't need to any work here.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Gambling sites of course does not always offer good profitable set-ups for their investors. What I mean for their investors are the gamblers which basically loose their bets maybe not always but it's 70% loss over 30% win.

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