Gambling and investment - different discussion - page 6.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

It is part of the business ,promoting like that it is their tactics so that plenty of people will attract and play. And if you get easily tempted you will join and play with their games also invest then you don't notice that you already lose.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos.

There's a lot of gambling site and at the same time, they also offer investment. Of course, they can make more profit if they have the option, so that, many of us will get interested in that site. If you are the businessman, of course, you will make a way to get more people to get interested in your site, just like what they are doing now.

How you can say this that investors are not depending on luck like gamblers? Not only in gambling or investment but also in any other matter of life in which you are completely unaware of the results, you are totally depending on luck. People also say to investors that you were not lucky enough to get profits this time which means luck is also important factor in investment.

What are you saying? I don't say anything about luck here. Maybe you've responded to a wrong post. I don't know, or maybe you are just trying to say that there are some instances that we are relying on luck, which is true but I don't get your point to my post? Anyways, gambling and investment are too different from each other because gambling is a game while investment is not and we should focus on that because there is some investment made in long-term.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on May 12, 2018, 05:44:20 AM

if for myself it is better to invest than gamble. because investing is very safe profit my money and if gamble it has a very big risk because it has violated the rules of state and religion also

In terms of risk, the truth? They are the same. The reason why investing are often times called also gambling since we are taking in on the risk and no one knows if you will be able to gain a profit or not but the good thing is you are risking your money for good but in terms of gambling, you are risking your money in your luck in which we all know that it is hard to ensure your money on your luck since you do not know whether it is your lucky day or not.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Gambling websites are not oriented on making profits from what players lose there. I'm talking about honest, provably fair gambling sites, of course those who cheat make profits that way, but they are not worth talking about. If a site has many regular visitors, thousands per day, it can generate significant profits from its house edge. So, those sites are not lying exactly when they say things you wrote about to gamblers and to investors. Indeed you have a chance to win big if you play there and you can profit by investing in their bankroll.

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both gambling and investment can help us to make money but it's more safe investment than gambling. in investment, we need to wait for some period time to withdraw our money and it will grow more. and in gambling, we need to spend the money to play the games and we don't have a chance to always win the games. and I prefer with doing investment than playing gambling because I don't want to lose more money and I only want to make more money.

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if for myself it is better to invest than gamble. because investing is very safe profit my money and if gamble it has a very big risk because it has violated the rules of state and religion also

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Quote from: ubitcoin on May 08, 2018, 01:57:44 AM

Business are about grabbing money from customers with their own consent. All sort of world business first lure a customer, make him happy and persuade them to give their money with a broad smile on their faces. Casinos are no different. The whole interest of gamblers is in revenue. If they will start making gamblers rich, the casino won’t last for long.It is definitely not for doing charity.

Everyone works for their way of making money then how you can expect the gambling houses to run their business for a charity purpose ? Moreover gambling houses are here for not making you rich but to entertain you. If you understand this concept then you will never get confused about gambling and investment. Unfortunately when anyone is talking about gambling the first thing strikes in mind is making easy money. That is the reason we are all still in confusion about gambling and investments.

Business are being run to provide some services for the exchange some fee. Gambling houses are being run to entertain us for the fee of what we are able to spend with them. If we are wise enough then we can spend as much as little for our gambling activities as fee, you cannot expect nothing more than these.

Investment is far better than gambling. Investment is business and you should invest your money in such a place which gives you some profit. If you want to lose all your savings then go for gambling and I hope that just in few minutes you will lose all your money. Business is not grabbing money from customers because nobody sell his products by force.

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Quote from: Roboabhishek on May 10, 2018, 03:13:21 PM

Investment and gambling are similar in that they both are intended to make money, however investment is designed to make the user money, whereas gambling is usually designed to make the casino or sportsbook money. Also, investment is mostly knowledge based, whereas gambling is often luck based (though there are some games revolving around knowledge).

Yes they were intented to make money but both are different in the process of making money.As a investor he can make money through knowledge and skills but in gambling only luck play the part of making money and no one can make money continuously in gambling but it can be possible through investment.Yes both were different and we don't have to compare them never.

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Quote from: Hazaki on May 01, 2018, 02:33:59 PM

It is common sense to not believe what casinos are offering or are promoting for since such organizations are looking to always hit a 99% win ratio over anything or any business they'll do and every case that represents an opportunity for you to win is just another successful way for them to get that money out of your pocket , slowly but surely .
Casinos and their games are designed in order to make you loose and why should they change such ideology and perspective ?
Knowing such things is life 101s and hearing different speechs is something we got used to have from casinos , such as the oldest trick in their books and for which people still fall : the beginning's bonus . Such trick has made millions for casinos that managed to get everything for themselves while teasing new comers with joining bonuses that made them spend twice what they intended to .
With a bit of logic even a baby would understand that such plans will never be rewarding for anyone except the casino itself .

Yeah! Basically they are thinking of themselves much more than they used to think about their customers because if they will start thinking about their gamblers, then there will be nothing much left for them to continue with their as they have to pay heavy taxes to their governments. I will not agree with you in that perspective because gambling is totally depending upon lucky, however this is true that casinos take some amount from your winning too.

Business are about grabbing money from customers with their own consent. All sort of world business first lure a customer, make him happy and persuade them to give their money with a broad smile on their faces. Casinos are no different. The whole interest of gamblers is in revenue. If they will start making gamblers rich, the casino won’t last for long.It is definitely not for doing charity.

There is no comparison between gambling and investment. Although many people think that investment takes a long time for making money, while gambling is something different. It is neither a business nor a trade. It is the easiest way to put your money in someone’s pocket. Don’t gamble it is a bad thing. Just investment your money and wait for some tine

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Quote from: crwth on May 08, 2018, 04:27:00 AM

Maybe it depends on the player and the method or approach in playing, as well as their luck. Although I'm not really an expert on these things I also don't understand, why do they still play on that site if they know they're going to lose? (Prevention for addiction)

Valid question it is. Really I want to ask these gamblers that whenever a person involves in a business or any money thing, he must research properly that how much chances are there for loss and a win. The decision for choosing that source depends absolutely on this measure. But when you people already know this gambling would be the worst source and loss is dominant, why to go in there then?

That is appreciated. For this everyone advises you to go for a proper research and after that you can go for anything. Now this research must be authentic and fruitful. You must be covering all the aspects of that particular thing and relate them to your goals and objectives. If it satisfies your spirit and achievement, then you should go for that thing, but I am sure there would always be a no for gambling.

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Quote from: boy130 on May 09, 2018, 08:26:05 AM

Gambling is the complete opposite of investment. Gambling is the often uncontrolled use of money in the hope of winning a larger amount against the house (or playing the odds), whereas investment is using strategy and predictions to make controlled choices about investment opportunities. Yes, certain games can technically slip into both categories (e.g. staking in poker), but in broad terms, they're on opposite ends of the money making spectrum.

It is completely opposite but they go hand in hand like if one profits the other one will have a loss , let's say i won 10 bitcoin from gambling i would happily withdraw but the investors who have invested will have to suffer the loss similarly i lost 10 bitcoin the investors wouls benefit

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Quote from: Allura74 on May 10, 2018, 04:01:42 PM

Quote from: suvo05 on May 10, 2018, 06:03:19 AM

Maximum time people often start to gamble without any plan, they start it just for fun and with the greed of getting rich easily. And obviously maximum of them just lose money but creates a habit of gambling and that causes losing more. And that time the player gets an idea that no-one can bet house edge and then the investment ads catch up his mind.

Well, mostly that is an instinct of the people to be financially free but as for me gambling is different story from investment because if we invest in that particular gambling site then meaning you are already a stakeholder of that gambling site or in the house and the more profit gain by the house then the more dividend you can get.

I think it would be profitable to invest in the gambling casino and become a shareholder and get dividends on regular basis than gambling and losing your money because it's better to be a part of the house which always wins than just a customer who losses.

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Quote from: suvo05 on May 10, 2018, 06:03:19 AM

Maximum time people often start to gamble without any plan, they start it just for fun and with the greed of getting rich easily. And obviously maximum of them just lose money but creates a habit of gambling and that causes losing more. And that time the player gets an idea that no-one can bet house edge and then the investment ads catch up his mind.

Well, mostly that is an instinct of the people to be financially free but as for me gambling is different story from investment because if we invest in that particular gambling site then meaning you are already a stakeholder of that gambling site or in the house and the more profit gain by the house then the more dividend you can get.

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Investment and gambling are similar in that they both are intended to make money, however investment is designed to make the user money, whereas gambling is usually designed to make the casino or sportsbook money. Also, investment is mostly knowledge based, whereas gambling is often luck based (though there are some games revolving around knowledge).

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Maximum time people often start to gamble without any plan, they start it just for fun and with the greed of getting rich easily. And obviously maximum of them just lose money but creates a habit of gambling and that causes losing more. And that time the player gets an idea that no-one can bet house edge and then the investment ads catch up his mind.

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Quote from: crwth on May 08, 2018, 04:27:00 AM

Maybe it depends on the player and the method or approach in playing, as well as their luck. Although I'm not really an expert on these things I also don't understand, why do they still play on that site if they know they're going to lose? (Prevention for addiction)

maybe they think that they will have a chance to get their luck work in another day so they come back to play in that sites. or maybe he enjoys to stay on that site and he found that he can play many games without confusing about what games that he can play. but if he realizes that this could attract him to be an addicting person in gambling, he should not play in every day and avoid to visit that sites too often because this will make him play the games again and he will get difficult to leave the sites.

O come on dude, there is no fun in gambling. Who says this? Do they really feel it fun when people get in there and lose money? They never ever had a good moment in gambling because when person is losing all what he had in his pocket in such a short period of time, he might be regretful after sometime. But once gone, these people never let their loss convert to win.

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Gambling is the complete opposite of investment. Gambling is the often uncontrolled use of money in the hope of winning a larger amount against the house (or playing the odds), whereas investment is using strategy and predictions to make controlled choices about investment opportunities. Yes, certain games can technically slip into both categories (e.g. staking in poker), but in broad terms, they're on opposite ends of the money making spectrum.

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Quote from: crwth on May 08, 2018, 04:27:00 AM

Maybe it depends on the player and the method or approach in playing, as well as their luck. Although I'm not really an expert on these things I also don't understand, why do they still play on that site if they know they're going to lose? (Prevention for addiction)

Valid question it is. Really I want to ask these gamblers that whenever a person involves in a business or any money thing, he must research properly that how much chances are there for loss and a win. The decision for choosing that source depends absolutely on this measure. But when you people already know this gambling would be the worst source and loss is dominant, why to go in there then?

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Quote from: shield132 on April 05, 2018, 08:14:30 AM

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

of course need to promote and love their own website to encourage more people to play in their own website online gambling
do not compare gambling as investment for me gambling are not an investment is game for fun and getting money came from gambling are an extra benefits as gambler but not all the time can got win playing in gambling.

Yes.Gambling and investment can be both profitable but they are different from each other.Gambling is just a matter of pure luck and chance.If you are lucky that day,then you will gain profit but if not,the owner of that gambling site will gain profit from you.Investment i think is much more profitable than gambling because if you have an expertise on your investment and you have developed your own talents and skills,then surely you will gain a sure profit at the end of the day.

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Quote from: maydna on May 08, 2018, 04:50:02 AM

Quote from: crwth on May 08, 2018, 04:27:00 AM

Maybe it depends on the player and the method or approach in playing, as well as their luck. Although I'm not really an expert on these things I also don't understand, why do they still play on that site if they know they're going to lose? (Prevention for addiction)

maybe they think that they will have a chance to get their luck work in another day so they come back to play in that sites. or maybe he enjoys to stay on that site and he found that he can play many games without confusing about what games that he can play. but if he realizes that this could attract him to be an addicting person in gambling, he should not play in every day and avoid to visit that sites too often because this will make him play the games again and he will get difficult to leave the sites.

Such a foolish thought it is. First of all, we can never discover which day is our lucky day and secondly, checking out every day is a way too harmful for capital.

What if that good day is somewhere in far future or may be a person does not have a gambler charm at all? Chasing something that does not even exist indeed is stupid in every way.Much better would be to not do anything at all and kill spare time looking at the sky.

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