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Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 16, 2021, 05:22:34 AM

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

Seriously, we are talking on being a professional gambler by playing dice? No way.. there's no way we can be professional dicer as we don't have the advantage, we will just lose in the long run, this is a pure luck based type of game, not advisable to treat it seriously, for fun, it's good.

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There are also gamblers that had a profit even they are playing for a long period of time in luck based games.

Don't get me wrong though, I am talking about accounts having a profit but not that much of a money that they can live with it. It is just amazing that with years and years of them gambling, they still have a profit even though the chances of losing is high.

That depends on how the player managed his balance. Maybe they found some strategy which is working to earn money from whatever games they are playing and placing their bets on.
Sometimes it's not just about luck. Most of the time you need to strategize.

But we are talking about dice here, right? It is true that I am talking about those gamblers that have a profit even though they are gambling for a long time but we are still talking about dice, luck-based games so I think strategizing can't help you. There might be some betting systems that could help you but I don't think that could make you a winner.

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Quote from: Crptomagma on January 16, 2021, 02:38:38 AM

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

That is so true.

There might be a time that they actually won but that doesn't cover the fact that they are also gambling for a long period of time and that also means that they are experiencing losses in that long run. Obviously, they have other sources of income or profit other than gambling because for sure they know how cruel gambling is.

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Quote from: Crptomagma on January 16, 2021, 02:38:38 AM

There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

This is what many individual on this thread failed to understand, that those who made some income or a living from this industry were those who don't gamble or chase their losses. Most professionals we saw on the list have other sources of income and not just rely on gambling alone. Some of us here gamble as a side hustle, particularly myself.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 14, 2021, 07:30:41 AM

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I was talking about purely luck based games, but, of course, there are types of gambling activities where math and logic are involved. From what I know, poker and sports betting require good understanding of probabilities, and it's a fact that there are professional sports bettors and poker players that make big money with these activities. But those are very rare cases, and the wisest of them quit after making a significant profit.

Yes, I could see that you have focused your statement about the purely luck based games. And I agree with you about that. I am also aware that there are indeed known and respectable sports bettors and poker players in this industry. But I opted to generalize gambling and its nature in order to justify my opinion on how it cannot be really considered as a profession, even with people gaining expertise with it. After all, people are also and still seeking for a source of income or financial needs to be able to gamble. And with that, majority are not really independently relying with gambling but are just fond of it.

I understand and I agree with your point. Indeed, even though sports betting and poker require certain skills, there's still so much luck(or should I say, randomness and uncertainty) involved there that it's not advisable to choose these activities as your main source of income. Pro poker players and sports bettors often choose to quit after making good profits, because they know that their luck can't last forever.

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I still don’t know what it is with people and gambling, many people still see gambling as illegal and others see it as taboo and these mentality sucks. I don’t want to ever discuss gambling with someone who have the mentality that gamblers are not responsible or can be very extravagant in their spending.

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There are many people who indulge in gambling activities but I don’t think they gamble as their major source of income. They gamble to add up to their financial status, they play gamble as a side hustle. But in a case whereby the gambling is favoring the person, you don’t expect the person to quit gambling.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 14, 2021, 11:20:28 AM

Precisely! Set those experiences coming from other gamblers who become addicted and lose control.

It's very possible that you'll be able to engaged too much and lose all your savings if you are not careful, many people suffer from depression and some ends up committing suicide to escape from this huge mistake. You need to be responsible in any decision making that you'll going to take. Gambling as profession is not easy as it is.

I am afraid that depression will stay with them for a long time as they can not control themselves in gambling. We already read about many suicide cases out there, and we must prevent that happen to one of our closest people. That is why we need to be responsible for ourselves before we lose everything that we have. We will be okay if we are playing gambling for searching the fun.

Gambling is indeed dangerous, but now I am more in control because with a higher tier in the stake we can get a bonus every month, precisely when this is an opportunity to get an advantage when we understand the patterns and sites that offer offers. but if you intend to work with gambling is a big mistake

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Quote from: BTCGOLD on January 15, 2021, 03:30:35 PM

If you want to make real money with gambling, then you also have to have an iron discipline. And you always have to deal with a relapse. There are also different concepts about the term professional gambler.
What do you understand by that? If someone gambles profitably once, it is not yet a professional gambler. Arbitrage bettors are pros but sooner or later you will run into problems with a bookie.

That would be really tough.

For those gamblers that already have it, that is amazing, keep that up but most of them are not that discipline, how much more having an "iron discipline". Not all of the games that you put your money into can't always give you money since we are talking about gambling. The highest chance you could get money from gambling is through cheating and owning a casino or gambling site.

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Quote from: wildan88 on January 15, 2021, 05:07:18 AM

There are a number of people active on the forum who win money with gambling. You have to ask yourself whether their approach is smart. The only way they play is by using holes in a betting site. Some examples of players: MishaYo, realscout (royse777 is also involved in this), LEVSKI7, spyrosc200). These players deliberately take advantage of temporarily misrepresented odds. If you want to make money in this rogue way, then I advise you to contact them.

Can you give more details? From the outside, your information does not seem reliable (no offense, there is simply no evidence and nothing but general words). And I don't think it's worth contacting these users for comments, as the answer is obvious anyway.

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Quote from: BTCGOLD on January 15, 2021, 03:30:35 PM

If you want to make real money with gambling, then you also have to have an iron discipline. And you always have to deal with a relapse. There are also different concepts about the term professional gambler.
What do you understand by that? If someone gambles profitably once, it is not yet a professional gambler. Arbitrage bettors are pros but sooner or later you will run into problems with a bookie.

We have our own thoughts and understanding of what would be the term professional gambler means. But in layman's terms, for the majority, that means that someone's who has been gambling as a profession and makes a living from it.

That can be the easiest possible meaning for one to understand what does it actually means without complex descriptions.

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If you want to make real money with gambling, then you also have to have an iron discipline. And you always have to deal with a relapse. There are also different concepts about the term professional gambler.
What do you understand by that? If someone gambles profitably once, it is not yet a professional gambler. Arbitrage bettors are pros but sooner or later you will run into problems with a bookie.

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Quote from: wildan88 on January 15, 2021, 05:07:18 AM

There are a number of people active on the forum who win money with gambling. You have to ask yourself whether their approach is smart.

That may be true but there will also be loses. Having gambling as the main stream of income, in my opinion, is too unpredictable and unreliable, but nonetheless there are plenty of people who are in this position.

Perhaps, they find it as the only solution for them, so to them it is a smart approach-tough I think that also depends on the game. For example, poker can be an easier game to strategies in then in dice or slots. But I suppose over time you develop a sense for the game you play day-in day-out.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 14, 2021, 11:20:28 AM

Precisely! Set those experiences coming from other gamblers who become addicted and lose control.

It's very possible that you'll be able to engaged too much and lose all your savings if you are not careful, many people suffer from depression and some ends up committing suicide to escape from this huge mistake. You need to be responsible in any decision making that you'll going to take. Gambling as profession is not easy as it is.

I am afraid that depression will stay with them for a long time as they can not control themselves in gambling. We already read about many suicide cases out there, and we must prevent that happen to one of our closest people. That is why we need to be responsible for ourselves before we lose everything that we have. We will be okay if we are playing gambling for searching the fun.

We are already talking about the worst case scenario, suicide can happen in different cause, not only in gambling but you are right, we need to be responsible and we have to understand the risk in gambling so the time will not come that we will blame ourselves of losing since losing is just normal but we just don't understand it and we don't manage the risk effectively.

These are the worst case scenarios that we should taken seriously. It just didn't happen because of gambling, losing or failure in betting but these happens in any aspects of life that triggers the anxiety of depression of one person. But whatever the reason that may trigger, we should always be responsible to our actions and be wise enough to handle uncertainties in our life. Problems, hindrances or even challenges are inevitable it already a part of our life we only have one thing to respond on it, and that is to learn how to fight those.

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There are a number of people active on the forum who win money with gambling. You have to ask yourself whether their approach is smart. The only way they play is by using holes in a betting site. Some examples of players: MishaYo, realscout (royse777 is also involved in this), LEVSKI7, spyrosc200). These players deliberately take advantage of temporarily misrepresented odds. If you want to make money in this rogue way, then I advise you to contact them.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 08, 2019, 08:42:50 PM

Just curious here.
I know there are tons of way to live.

but is there such a thing as professional gamblers?

people who make a living onlyout of gambling (online or on rl)?

resources and comments on that are really welcome.

I have met some people who are good at gambling who manages to win a good amount of money from gambling,
But i haven't met someone who relies or depends only in gambling.
I have some relatives who are also heavy gamblers but they don't depend on gambling.

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Quote from: michellee on January 15, 2021, 01:16:45 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on January 14, 2021, 11:20:28 AM

Precisely! Set those experiences coming from other gamblers who become addicted and lose control.

It's very possible that you'll be able to engaged too much and lose all your savings if you are not careful, many people suffer from depression and some ends up committing suicide to escape from this huge mistake. You need to be responsible in any decision making that you'll going to take. Gambling as profession is not easy as it is.

I am afraid that depression will stay with them for a long time as they can not control themselves in gambling. We already read about many suicide cases out there, and we must prevent that happen to one of our closest people. That is why we need to be responsible for ourselves before we lose everything that we have. We will be okay if we are playing gambling for searching the fun.

We are already talking about the worst case scenario, suicide can happen in different cause, not only in gambling but you are right, we need to be responsible and we have to understand the risk in gambling so the time will not come that we will blame ourselves of losing since losing is just normal but we just don't understand it and we don't manage the risk effectively.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 14, 2021, 11:20:28 AM

Precisely! Set those experiences coming from other gamblers who become addicted and lose control.

It's very possible that you'll be able to engaged too much and lose all your savings if you are not careful, many people suffer from depression and some ends up committing suicide to escape from this huge mistake. You need to be responsible in any decision making that you'll going to take. Gambling as profession is not easy as it is.

I am afraid that depression will stay with them for a long time as they can not control themselves in gambling. We already read about many suicide cases out there, and we must prevent that happen to one of our closest people. That is why we need to be responsible for ourselves before we lose everything that we have. We will be okay if we are playing gambling for searching the fun.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 12, 2021, 09:28:54 AM

Quote from: Crptomagma on January 12, 2021, 01:54:07 AM

Gambling is as old as human. I know a handful of people who use gambling as their source of major income and depend on it solely to discharge their financial needs. They are gifted with lucky hands and predict the best odds with the highest benefit.

interesting, can you share more on which styles of games they play and what their strategies and techniques are?
probably not only pure luck, right?
let us know

I'm not sure if he will tell you or even post it here. Coz even he's saying that he uses strategies to win in gambling, I don't think it really works and enough to win but he definitely needs luck by then.

I will be agreeing that some people are destined to be a gambler. Yeah, they are so lucky being a gambler and make wins almost all the time and too sad that I never saw it to me. I do gambling but could be disappointing to see how many times I lose than winning.

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Quote from: michellee on January 14, 2021, 08:24:19 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on January 13, 2021, 01:20:27 PM

If your long term strategy depends on luck, then you are doing something wrong. It is naive to hope for luck if we are talking about a long distance - the math works here strictly in favor of the bookmakers/casino owners etc. Therefore, if you want to succeed then you must either be a casino owner or look for and find weaknesses/mistakes at casinos/bookmakers.

Not many people can become bookmakers or casino owners because that will need a lot of money to start. If people do not play gambling for a long time and will think twice about using gambling for a profession, they will save their money, and they do not have to depend on the luck factor because that will not work for the long term. Many people live ruin because they want to use gambling as a profession, which is an important lesson for us not to follow them to ruin our lives.

But now there are sites where you make wagers with other people? In fact, this is your own casino - you can make opposite bets with different people in such a way that, whatever the outcome, you will be in profit. Thus, you will act as a casino without spending a lot of money to open it.

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