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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Yeah, actually I think that's a good idea, but it will be very difficult for you to convince people to join using your referral link since your intention is just to get them to join the platform so you can get your offer, is only those who are addicted to gambling that can be easily convinced. Of course those who are addicted will always want to partner with all the whole betting platforms.

However, talking about vip program. actually I think I have come across such program before, but meeting up to the standard when you will get paid even when you don't gamble. is actually very difficult before one could get to that level, perhaps before you can even get to that level you must have lose a huge amount of money. and the amount you will lose in that process can not be compared with the amount they're going to pay you when you finally meet up to that level.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Telegram, Twitter and other social media platforms are a good way to generate income in gambling without betting. For example, on Chips, they offer random deposit to people who guess for example, what slots are shown on the blurred image, they give some money to people who reply their twitter post with screenshot of win, they send some spins to random people who comment on their twitters and so on. I think, this is a very good way to earn without betting.

Affiliate programs are very good for those who can be socially active and record videos or make podcasts every 3 days or every week but you need some investment. If you want to build a website, then you'll need lots of money and free time because the competition is very high, there is a website casino guru that has tens of people employed to run the business, so, your best bet is social media like TikTok and Youtube.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on January 30, 2025, 08:55:50 AM

...The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

Yes, it is very difficult to find someone who, firstly, is interested in gambling and, secondly, has not yet registered at the casino whose referral link you are offering. And I'll add another thing, so that he has a big deposit)

I have done this before, firstly they already know the casinos offered so they already have an account --- secondly they are not active gamblers but only occasionally gamble so the deposit is small so the commission earned is even smaller.
So I never expect from affiliates because this is not our domain, in the sense that it is still difficult to reach there.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 30, 2025, 10:10:51 AM

Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

yes you may be right for the Instance you gave concerning a participants of a signature campaigns that wears some casino bowling but there does not participate in gambling so that is their own Primary choice the only promote the website but they don't gamble with that particular website it is few of some following members here that can testify to protect in the company they are promoting,

but it is my first time to hear that someone can make money through gambling by sharing the referral code of that gambling website without betting it is sounds strange to me because I don't have a such a knowledge there are different between we promoting website in bitcoin talk and someone who is promoting gambling website without participating in gambling through sharing of link to other social media ,

so what that person is doing in question is to make the platform of the gambling to be when no why we wearing signature campaign to promote a brand of casino we are doing it for this forum alone and anyone who is in this forum is people that knows about it so that is difference between those ones who is sharing a referral code on another social media and we who is wearing their signature in our platform or bitcointalk.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

Yeah this happens occasionally you know not making use of that particular thing but you definitely earn from it, so this is eventually a well classified way of marketing and this one in particular involve marketing bets or gambling as a whole. And I'll say it's a good one tho cause it gives you limits to losses whereas you're making money out of it instead of the normal gambling process that will generate losses.. I believe this source of income should be beneficial to those that can't control their gambling habits.

I know some people make some money from affiliate links. But think that we are a gambler. I don't think it seems to be in our minds rather than gambling. Yes, believing that it generates income, but I still don't think it is enough to feed our mouths and consider that a good source of income.

Anyway, despite just having a small income from affiliate links, at least we earn some. May not give us huge help financially, but at least it helps our gambling habits.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

You forgot to include the most important one in the list. From the perspective of profits, being the casino is the best and most successful way to make money from gambling without being a player, because casinos have a statistical advantage in most games. however, it requires a very significant initial investment. Moreover, at the same time, you assume the risk of going bankrupt if you do not manage the money properly.

Another option that comes to mind is lenders, but they also assume risks due to the ability of borrowers to repay the money.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 30, 2025, 10:10:51 AM

Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

This is a very valid and relatable point I see, there are people who are benefiting from casinos and not gambling especially on this forum so you may not necessarily have to gamble at some point to be able to benefit from the gambling industry and as it has to do with the advert placements on various social platforms, that's is usually a different negotiation such that for some it comes like an ambassadorial deal where the person doing the advert gets to be seen as an ambassador of the brand.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

Yeah this happens occasionally you know not making use of that particular thing but you definitely earn from it, so this is eventually a well classified way of marketing and this one in particular involve marketing bets or gambling as a whole. And I'll say it's a good one tho cause it gives you limits to losses whereas you're making money out of it instead of the normal gambling process that will generate losses.. I believe this source of income should be beneficial to those that can't control their gambling habits.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

I know about affiliate program and how it works, but have not tried or used it for any advertisment. I heard it is another way of making money by using their advert Link to bring customer to there site and you get rewarded for it. But I think your profit in that business will depend on the numbers od people that clicked and sign up in that Link, so if probably you don't have many people to sign up then there will be less profit generated from it.

Casinos this time might not like to agree with that click and register to reward promoters. It was before that such a type of promotion was beneficial to advertisers and promoters, but even without having the audience, you can make something work for yourself by just having the tools available to register multiple accounts using different emails and, most times, contacting a few friends and relatives, which the registration will yield zero results for the casino. The type of reward they mostly pay is when those who have signed meet up certain requirements like first deposit, passing KYC, or reaching a particular wager limit, which they can use to verify that the invitees are all real.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on January 30, 2025, 08:55:50 AM

...The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

Yes, it is very difficult to find someone who, firstly, is interested in gambling and, secondly, has not yet registered at the casino whose referral link you are offering. And I'll add another thing, so that he has a big deposit)

Also some gamblers in some locations only use their Fiat currency to place bets, some users still haven't gotten the idea of using crypto to stake a bet, so it's also another problem to attract referrals into a crypto related gambling platforms.

Quote from: STT on January 30, 2025, 04:25:51 PM

I miss my old manager who gave us poker entry every month. I must have had a dozen free tournament tickets but I wasn't playing poker then.

The company got taken over and the old tickets were invalidated. Big fail by me, I shoumld have played and got up to speed on poker while I was gifted the opportunity.

What did you do to deserve this ticket every month, or you perform some tasks to get this rewards because some people are saying getting free spin, or free bet to wagers are always gotten either from constant deposits, regular betting on the site, or successful referral or more if I may ask.

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I miss my old manager who gave us poker entry every month. I must have had a dozen free tournament tickets but I wasn't playing poker then.

The company got taken over and the old tickets were invalidated. Big fail by me, I shoumld have played and got up to speed on poker while I was gifted the opportunity.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2025, 05:00:14 PM

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Both can indeed be done but that does not mean that in the end it is without any bets from the start especially for VIP because after all, weekly or monthly bonuses will only be obtained when we have a greater VIP level if indeed we want to feel the VIP benefits so that it certainly requires a bet first.
As for referrals, I agree with the opinions of some people here because indeed this is just a marketing even though we do have benefits from it but in the end it is only a small part of the referrals we have and it requires much greater skills if in the end you want a profit in a larger amount.

In the end gambling is still going to be lucky with gambling so regardless of what you say even if it is true it still won't be bigger when we try to bet in the end.

A gambler still needs to bet or deposit before he can enjoy other benefits offered by the casino. Even if you can earn from your referrals, it is not a guarantee that you will earn from it. Hard to promote a casino if you are not personally playing their games. So how can you entice other people if you don't know what's happening inside the site?

That is the reason that in the end there will be nothing that can really be leaned on for profit without any stakes at all in gambling because after all, it is called gambling and when we are already in that scope, what must be done normally is gambling, not anything else and for VIP or affiliate bonuses it is just a distraction that we can do to increase and activate us for gambling but still the main point is that we must not forget that being on a gambling site, it is certain that what must be done is gambling.

So by looking at this, of course we can draw a clear conclusion that in the end gambling will still be gambling and the benefits that will be obtained will also be based on the gambling activities that we do in the end, not from other elements as mentioned by the OP earlier. Although it does have a slight contribution, the situation is different because again it is just a distraction that is done in the end.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on January 30, 2025, 08:55:50 AM

...The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

Yes, it is very difficult to find someone who, firstly, is interested in gambling and, secondly, has not yet registered at the casino whose referral link you are offering. And I'll add another thing, so that he has a big deposit)

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There are many ways to make money in this industry without gambling, but all of them involve being employed one way or another.

Signature campaigns are a good example of this. You work for the industry and get paid by the casino to promote it, but you don't have to gamble yourself. Same with affiliate links. If you can get people o register from your link, you'll get paid, but this is now much harder than it used to be in the early days, 10 years ago. Don't think you can make money from a casino program without gambling. They won't give it to you for free.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on January 30, 2025, 03:44:25 AM

To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

You are correct, must have more audience that are very interested in gambling, some gamblers might click on the link and use your referral code and sign up then start gambling, but immediately they start losing, they probably quite because they don't understand much about gamble. Some of them that can no longer stop gambling because they have already lose enough money might try considering to continue and chase their loss.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on January 30, 2025, 10:53:07 AM

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The second option is all sorts of bonuses that can be received from online casinos. Unfortunately, these bonuses usually do not cover losses from casino losses. We must never forget that any online casino is a commercial organization. The goal of every commercial organization is to make a profit.

It is a rule of thumb, if a casino offers bonuses which can be withdrawn or abused in some way for people to get them out to their private wallets without taking any significant risk, then that casino will inevitably lose money from holding that promotion or bonus campaign, barely anyone with gamble using such bonuses and will limit themselves to enjoy the free money being given by the casino.
That is why every bonus (not matter what kind of bonus it is) has their own terms of use it terms of claiming, which are very beneficial for the house and invites all gamblers who accept the bonus to wager their own money (initial deposit) in order to claim any benefit.

As a conclusion of all that, I would not even say or claim bonus hunting is a reliable way to make money off gambling or making money on casinos. Eventually, one could even get banned for abuse of their terms of service.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Gambling as income without betting the best way for now is just to participate in a campaign like signature campaign do some prediction and maybe campaign like play for free win for real. That is the easy way how to do a Gambling as income without betting, but something like this does not happen every day.

I tried to do a referral program/affiliate but it doesn't work for me to be honest, maybe it simply because I can make people do what I say or I just didn't understand how to lure people to join using my link

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The best way to get income from gambling without betting is to open your own online casino. All other methods are essentially divided into 2 types.

The first is the promotion of a specific online casino, conducting marketing or advertising events. As was rightly said above, in this situation, the income received is only indirectly related to gambling.

The second option is all sorts of bonuses that can be received from online casinos. Unfortunately, these bonuses usually do not cover losses from casino losses. We must never forget that any online casino is a commercial organization. The goal of every commercial organization is to make a profit.

Therefore, gambling should be considered as entertainment, and not for making a profit.

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Quote from: madnessteat on January 30, 2025, 10:24:59 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 30, 2025, 10:10:51 AM

Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

I disagree with you. A subscription campaign is fundamentally different from referral systems. A subscription campaign guarantees that if you follow its rules and fulfill the conditions, you will get paid. Any referral program implies that you get paid for each invited user who gambles. Most forum users would not be able to earn even a tenth of what they get from subscription campaigns. To attract a large number of gamblers to the gambling platform requires much more than forum rank and experience in gambling.

Well, you are right in your distinguish explanation of subscription campaign and referral campaign but that's not what am referring to in my post.
I am only giving example of how members on the forum who are non gamblers are also earning by advertising casino on their signature space. I didn't say in any place that signature here is same as earning from referral program of casinos or gambling sits.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

Gambling is risking money or property in a game with the aim of getting money. So if you get money with an affiliate/referral program, it is not considered gambling because there is no money at stake. And it is more appropriate to call it marketing.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

And this might be more appropriately called a gift or reward that is given to you. So in essence it is impossible to earn income from gambling without betting because to earn income from gambling you have to bet first.

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