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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

Gambling is risking money or property in a game with the aim of getting money. So if you get money with an affiliate/referral program, it is not considered gambling because there is no money at stake. And it is more appropriate to call it marketing.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

And this might be more appropriately called a gift or reward that is given to you. So in essence it is impossible to earn income from gambling without betting because to earn income from gambling you have to bet first.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 30, 2025, 10:10:51 AM

Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

I disagree with you. A subscription campaign is fundamentally different from referral systems. A subscription campaign guarantees that if you follow its rules and fulfill the conditions, you will get paid. Any referral program implies that you get paid for each invited user who gambles. Most forum users would not be able to earn even a tenth of what they get from subscription campaigns. To attract a large number of gamblers to the gambling platform requires much more than forum rank and experience in gambling.

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Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on January 29, 2025, 05:46:12 PM

If you are not an influencer with a huge number of subscribers, it makes no sense to expect to earn referral percentages, since there are practically no ways for an ordinary user to advertise an affiliate link. Moreover, subscribers of such influencers should be interested in gambling, otherwise it will not be the target audience that will be interested in going and then playing using a referral link.

That's what we think --- influencers with a large following are influential in getting more referrals, especially if you are a gambling influencer, the audience will be more interested in your referrals.
The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on January 30, 2025, 03:44:25 AM

To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

Yes, that makes sense and maybe the conclusion is that an influencer or streamer should target their promotion to people who have above average financial situations such as rich people because most likely the amount of budget they use to gamble is also quite large compared to ordinary gamblers, but yes on the other hand it might be a bit difficult to target the promotion to rich people because usually broadcasting on social media is general. On the other hand, as you said, to reach VIP a gambler needs quite a lot of money to bet until the requirements to become VIP are met, and only a minority of them can get through it because of financial factors that are obstacles, but the other option is to wait for a time that most likely will not be short to reach that level, so actually making money through the promotional link scenario cannot be ascertained regarding the amount of profit you will get, depending on how rich and how impulsive the gamblers who register on your link are.

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To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

OP, I feel that this forum topic has nothing to do with actual gambling. It's more about making money without playing gambling games.
Maybe you should move the topic to another forum.
Gambling affiliate programs are great, but the gambling niche is extremely competitive you will have to come up with unique advertising methods and strategies in order to gain active buyer traffic.
I've never used casino VIP programs and I don't believe that this is a consistent way to make money out of gambling. VIP programs are just a method for the casinos to keep the active gamblers spending more money on that particular casino.
The casino tokens, like the Betfury token are just a variation of the VIP programs. This more like a marketing gimmick to keep the gamblers active.

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 29, 2025, 11:49:27 AM

This is not about how easy or how hard to earn money from affiliate program but it is more about the possible ways to earn money from gambling without betting.
Affiliate is one of the available ways as mentioned by OP, but the 2nd one mentioned by OP is not even a way to earn money without betting.
The other possible ways to earn money from gambling without betting or maybe without risking our money:
- Playing free roll poker, it takes time so try to find the best free roll which give a worthy prizepool.
- Participating in free contest as what we can see in the games and rounds board such as prediction contest.

You are mention some ways that people can use to earn money from gambling without using money. Yes, they can do that especially if they don't want to use their own money to earn money and I think that will be more safe for them and could stay away from the big lose.

I like the last two ways you mention because that is free for those who wants to earn money. But the challenge and the experience will be different than when they use their own money although that can help them to earn money if they have luck.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

I don't know if it applies to everyone other casino but for the ones I know, such prices do come with terms for which you must reach to be able to claim or use them, mostly the weekly prizes, the referrals I don't have a good idea about it but the few I have encountered comes inform of a voucher such that you will still have to use it on their platform to gamble the you get to withdraw from your wins and not you withdrawing your actual gift, so with that I think you still get to spend some certain amounts of money to get to the vip level you did mentioned, so you may still have to place a bet technically.

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If you are not an influencer with a huge number of subscribers, it makes no sense to expect to earn referral percentages, since there are practically no ways for an ordinary user to advertise an affiliate link. Moreover, subscribers of such influencers should be interested in gambling, otherwise it will not be the target audience that will be interested in going and then playing using a referral link.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

since I know gambling I have not heard that you earn money through this process in gambling, I think the main gambling is for you to stake and if you win, you make your money through gambling and if doesn't win, then you lose your money in the gambling, then I think this scenario you introduce to us is being real when the platform of a gambling is looking for popularity or wants to be known to the society and doing what you just presented to us is like people who is making the website or the platform to be well known through a chain connection, for me I don't think that gambling site that's is well known can accept this kind source of someone making money through their platform without placing bet.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

This is the only means of making income from a casino without spending money. For the other VIP level, you need to spend money playing bets before you can get to that position. For an affiliate, you just need to have the audience, which you can share your link with, and you can convince them to sign up with your link, but some casinos, most of the time, can be very tricky in terms of honouring their own part of the agreement, especially when you don't have a large community that you can use to threaten them. An affiliate pays, but you need to link up with a reputable casino that won't bridge the agreement.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

Affiliate programs aren't for everyone. You need a very efficient strategy to gather referrals across the internet. In the early days of crypto gambling industry it was a more feasible method to make an extra income from, but since social influencers started promoting casinos, it has become much more difficult for average gamblers to make people sign up through their links.

It's possible to try getting referrals by paying ads companies to display your links, but there is a serious risk of not recovering later the investment made.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

I fear it's not possible to earn through this method. The money you are going to spend in order to boost your account to a VIP level won't be recovered through the bonuses and prizes they will pay you once you become VIP. This feature works more like a cashback or rakeback feature than anything else. It's like a discount on your long term losses. That is how VIP programs are supposed to work, otherwise casinos would face losses and would have to suspend the feature from the platform.

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Quote from: red4slash on January 29, 2025, 04:09:25 PM

Both can indeed be done but that does not mean that in the end it is without any bets from the start especially for VIP because after all, weekly or monthly bonuses will only be obtained when we have a greater VIP level if indeed we want to feel the VIP benefits so that it certainly requires a bet first.
As for referrals, I agree with the opinions of some people here because indeed this is just a marketing even though we do have benefits from it but in the end it is only a small part of the referrals we have and it requires much greater skills if in the end you want a profit in a larger amount.

In the end gambling is still going to be lucky with gambling so regardless of what you say even if it is true it still won't be bigger when we try to bet in the end.

A gambler still needs to bet or deposit before he can enjoy other benefits offered by the casino. Even if you can earn from your referrals, it is not a guarantee that you will earn from it. Hard to promote a casino if you are not personally playing their games. So how can you entice other people if you don't know what's happening inside the site?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

I'm not sure about the influencer aspect but I think you have to be influencer in gambling before you can make have thousand of people register through your link. You need to have a good track record of gambling for you to talk in your platform and people to follow you, if you don't have any of them, trust me you will only suffer alone because people will not click the link because some people like me are very careful with clicking random links from strangers.

As for the stake, now I understand why I do see people say they want to buy stake gambling account on gambling board. So it's because there's a way you can make money from stake in their Vip some people rush to buy this account. But why would anyone buy stake account when they can do it own their own and their own time because from your explanation, it's not like you will be abandoned if you don't win, either both ways you win from betting on the casino.

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Both can indeed be done but that does not mean that in the end it is without any bets from the start especially for VIP because after all, weekly or monthly bonuses will only be obtained when we have a greater VIP level if indeed we want to feel the VIP benefits so that it certainly requires a bet first.
As for referrals, I agree with the opinions of some people here because indeed this is just a marketing even though we do have benefits from it but in the end it is only a small part of the referrals we have and it requires much greater skills if in the end you want a profit in a larger amount.

In the end gambling is still going to be lucky with gambling so regardless of what you say even if it is true it still won't be bigger when we try to bet in the end.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 29, 2025, 03:30:46 PM

For me currently the one that Moves the most is the affiliate program , however there is another way but that was not seen again, the modus operandi is that the casino has an internal forum and that they offer contests there and that each poster that makes Quality Publications gets paid, that is what they used to do in some ICOS and coin projects that they were going to launch and that encouraged the Community much more, now there is nothing that motivates a Community and even less to defend, or the other is that they allow the program they had in Betfury to Generate Passive income with their internal or native tokens.

And that's how they generate content that is being paid for. That's actually a better thing than affiliate marketing. So, if the publication is work is done and approved, that's an assured income for the poster.

Then if that's it, I think most casinos should start this at most times for their own community. It will surely motivate the artistic ones and even those that are not to upskill and do something that they'll benefit.

A paid work that's done by the casino for their own community, we see this often here in the forum conducted.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 28, 2025, 02:19:47 AM

There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

If you are talking about marketing then it's fine, people earns through marketing and isn't that easy to see people who join using your link to sign up and do verification to start gambling higher. During affiliate marketing all those who signed up through your ref link, you will earn when they got verified and make deposit to the sites. But for gambling, you can earn as you bet then this would gradually grow you to earn on bonuses just as you mentioned.

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Affiliate program is not that easy at all.

You need to build your network for it and you should have done something meaningful and helpful and for this niche, with gamblers. If it's not about helping on how to win and give some sportsbetting tips.

There should be other things that you have done for the others to benefit as well. They won't be signing up on your referral link if you just randomly sends it to them without doing any favor.

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For me currently the one that Moves the most is the affiliate program , however there is another way but that was not seen again, the modus operandi is that the casino has an internal forum and that they offer contests there and that each poster that makes Quality Publications gets paid, that is what they used to do in some ICOS and coin projects that they were going to launch and that encouraged the Community much more, now there is nothing that motivates a Community and even less to defend, or the other is that they allow the program they had in Betfury to Generate Passive income with their internal or native tokens.

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