Gambling experience - max negative times in row

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Quote from: omahapoker on May 20, 2015, 02:20:22 AM

Quote from: dooglus on May 19, 2015, 10:23:56 PM

Quote from: omahapoker on May 18, 2015, 11:45:15 AM

today ay JD 9% 150 losses in a row. then boom a win at 250 clam

tiger is the tiger woods of dice

Here's the streak in detail:

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+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| betid | stake | nonce | date | profit |
+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| 244346462 | 183 | 410171 | 2015-05-19 08:28:55 | -183 |
| 244350937 | 200 | 410172 | 2015-05-19 08:38:59 | -200 |
| 244350994 | 220 | 410173 | 2015-05-19 08:39:06 | -220 |
| 244351264 | 231 | 410174 | 2015-05-19 08:39:37 | -231 |
| 244351447 | 250 | 410175 | 2015-05-19 08:39:58 | 2500 |
+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------+-------------+

thanks. just cut off dust bets in case someone quoted my post. you know making it longer Wink

This was a different streak though... See how the one I posted ends with a +2500 and the other ends with +2350?

Quote from: omahapoker on May 18, 2015, 12:06:53 PM

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I've experienced a massive 8 loss streak on 89% win rate on some dice sites.

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Well that probably worst luck...but yes martiangle isn't good for long term profit.

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May I know how to calculate loss if we using martiangle 49.5 % , betting 500 satoshi , my balance BTC 0.01 ?

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Quote from: omahapoker on May 18, 2015, 11:45:15 AM

today ay JD 9% 150 losses in a row. then boom a win at 250 clam

tiger is the tiger woods of dice

Here's the streak in detail:

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+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| betid | stake | nonce | date | profit |
+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| 244274704 | 0.0000032 | 410024 | 2015-05-19 08:00:49 | 0.000032 |
| 244274740 | 0.0000001 | 410025 | 2015-05-19 08:00:50 | -0.0000001 |
| 244274778 | 0.00000011 | 410026 | 2015-05-19 08:00:50 | -0.00000011 |
| 244274814 | 0.00000013 | 410027 | 2015-05-19 08:00:51 | -0.00000013 |
| 244274857 | 0.00000015 | 410028 | 2015-05-19 08:00:52 | -0.00000015 |
| 244274887 | 0.00000017 | 410029 | 2015-05-19 08:00:52 | -0.00000017 |
| 244274932 | 0.00000019 | 410030 | 2015-05-19 08:00:53 | -0.00000019 |
| 244274971 | 0.00000022 | 410031 | 2015-05-19 08:00:53 | -0.00000022 |
| 244275010 | 0.00000025 | 410032 | 2015-05-19 08:00:54 | -0.00000025 |
| 244275051 | 0.00000028 | 410033 | 2015-05-19 08:00:55 | -0.00000028 |
| 244275093 | 0.00000032 | 410034 | 2015-05-19 08:00:55 | -0.00000032 |
| 244275137 | 0.00000036 | 410035 | 2015-05-19 08:00:56 | -0.00000036 |
| 244275178 | 0.00000041 | 410036 | 2015-05-19 08:00:57 | -0.00000041 |
| 244275217 | 0.00000047 | 410037 | 2015-05-19 08:00:57 | -0.00000047 |
| 244275255 | 0.00000053 | 410038 | 2015-05-19 08:00:58 | -0.00000053 |
| 244275297 | 0.0000006 | 410039 | 2015-05-19 08:00:58 | -0.0000006 |
| 244275334 | 0.00000069 | 410040 | 2015-05-19 08:00:59 | -0.00000069 |
| 244275377 | 0.00000078 | 410041 | 2015-05-19 08:01:00 | -0.00000078 |
| 244275415 | 0.00000089 | 410042 | 2015-05-19 08:01:00 | -0.00000089 |
| 244275455 | 0.00000101 | 410043 | 2015-05-19 08:01:01 | -0.00000101 |
| 244275493 | 0.00000115 | 410044 | 2015-05-19 08:01:02 | -0.00000115 |
| 244275528 | 0.0000013 | 410045 | 2015-05-19 08:01:02 | -0.0000013 |
| 244275576 | 0.00000148 | 410046 | 2015-05-19 08:01:03 | -0.00000148 |
| 244275614 | 0.00000169 | 410047 | 2015-05-19 08:01:04 | -0.00000169 |
| 244275651 | 0.00000192 | 410048 | 2015-05-19 08:01:04 | -0.00000192 |
| 244275691 | 0.00000218 | 410049 | 2015-05-19 08:01:05 | -0.00000218 |
| 244275726 | 0.00000248 | 410050 | 2015-05-19 08:01:06 | -0.00000248 |
| 244275756 | 0.00000282 | 410051 | 2015-05-19 08:01:06 | -0.00000282 |
| 244275790 | 0.0000032 | 410052 | 2015-05-19 08:01:07 | -0.0000032 |
| 244275827 | 0.00000364 | 410053 | 2015-05-19 08:01:07 | -0.00000364 |
| 244275859 | 0.00000414 | 410054 | 2015-05-19 08:01:08 | -0.00000414 |
| 244275900 | 0.00000471 | 410055 | 2015-05-19 08:01:09 | -0.00000471 |
| 244275937 | 0.00000535 | 410056 | 2015-05-19 08:01:09 | -0.00000535 |
| 244275976 | 0.00000609 | 410057 | 2015-05-19 08:01:10 | -0.00000609 |
| 244276023 | 0.00000692 | 410058 | 2015-05-19 08:01:11 | -0.00000692 |
| 244276061 | 0.00000787 | 410059 | 2015-05-19 08:01:11 | -0.00000787 |
| 244276100 | 0.00000895 | 410060 | 2015-05-19 08:01:12 | -0.00000895 |
| 244276147 | 0.00001017 | 410061 | 2015-05-19 08:01:13 | -0.00001017 |
| 244276187 | 0.00001156 | 410062 | 2015-05-19 08:01:13 | -0.00001156 |
| 244276225 | 0.00001315 | 410063 | 2015-05-19 08:01:14 | -0.00001315 |
| 244276267 | 0.00001495 | 410064 | 2015-05-19 08:01:15 | -0.00001495 |
| 244276307 | 0.000017 | 410065 | 2015-05-19 08:01:15 | -0.000017 |
| 244276346 | 0.00001933 | 410066 | 2015-05-19 08:01:16 | -0.00001933 |
| 244276389 | 0.00002198 | 410067 | 2015-05-19 08:01:17 | -0.00002198 |
| 244276431 | 0.00002499 | 410068 | 2015-05-19 08:01:18 | -0.00002499 |
| 244276469 | 0.00002841 | 410069 | 2015-05-19 08:01:18 | -0.00002841 |
| 244276509 | 0.0000323 | 410070 | 2015-05-19 08:01:19 | -0.0000323 |
| 244276552 | 0.00003673 | 410071 | 2015-05-19 08:01:19 | -0.00003673 |
| 244276589 | 0.00004176 | 410072 | 2015-05-19 08:01:20 | -0.00004176 |
| 244276638 | 0.00004748 | 410073 | 2015-05-19 08:01:21 | -0.00004748 |
| 244276677 | 0.00005398 | 410074 | 2015-05-19 08:01:21 | -0.00005398 |
| 244276716 | 0.00006138 | 410075 | 2015-05-19 08:01:22 | -0.00006138 |
| 244276748 | 0.00006979 | 410076 | 2015-05-19 08:01:23 | -0.00006979 |
| 244276789 | 0.00007935 | 410077 | 2015-05-19 08:01:23 | -0.00007935 |
| 244276830 | 0.00009022 | 410078 | 2015-05-19 08:01:24 | -0.00009022 |
| 244276852 | 0.00010258 | 410079 | 2015-05-19 08:01:24 | -0.00010258 |
| 244276889 | 0.00011663 | 410080 | 2015-05-19 08:01:25 | -0.00011663 |
| 244276928 | 0.00013261 | 410081 | 2015-05-19 08:01:25 | -0.00013261 |
| 244276955 | 0.00015078 | 410082 | 2015-05-19 08:01:26 | -0.00015078 |
| 244276986 | 0.00017144 | 410083 | 2015-05-19 08:01:27 | -0.00017144 |
| 244277020 | 0.00019492 | 410084 | 2015-05-19 08:01:27 | -0.00019492 |
| 244277059 | 0.00022163 | 410085 | 2015-05-19 08:01:28 | -0.00022163 |
| 244277096 | 0.00025199 | 410086 | 2015-05-19 08:01:28 | -0.00025199 |
| 244277122 | 0.00028652 | 410087 | 2015-05-19 08:01:29 | -0.00028652 |
| 244277148 | 0.00032577 | 410088 | 2015-05-19 08:01:29 | -0.00032577 |
| 244277183 | 0.0003704 | 410089 | 2015-05-19 08:01:30 | -0.0003704 |
| 244277217 | 0.00042114 | 410090 | 2015-05-19 08:01:30 | -0.00042114 |
| 244277250 | 0.00047884 | 410091 | 2015-05-19 08:01:31 | -0.00047884 |
| 244277279 | 0.00054444 | 410092 | 2015-05-19 08:01:31 | -0.00054444 |
| 244277311 | 0.00061903 | 410093 | 2015-05-19 08:01:32 | -0.00061903 |
| 244277343 | 0.00070384 | 410094 | 2015-05-19 08:01:32 | -0.00070384 |
| 244277380 | 0.00080026 | 410095 | 2015-05-19 08:01:33 | -0.00080026 |
| 244277414 | 0.0009099 | 410096 | 2015-05-19 08:01:33 | -0.0009099 |
| 244277433 | 0.00103455 | 410097 | 2015-05-19 08:01:34 | -0.00103455 |
| 244277456 | 0.00117629 | 410098 | 2015-05-19 08:01:34 | -0.00117629 |
| 244277476 | 0.00133744 | 410099 | 2015-05-19 08:01:34 | -0.00133744 |
| 244277498 | 0.00152067 | 410100 | 2015-05-19 08:01:35 | -0.00152067 |
| 244277516 | 0.001729 | 410101 | 2015-05-19 08:01:35 | -0.001729 |
| 244277544 | 0.00196587 | 410102 | 2015-05-19 08:01:35 | -0.00196587 |
| 244277561 | 0.0022352 | 410103 | 2015-05-19 08:01:36 | -0.0022352 |
| 244277589 | 0.00254142 | 410104 | 2015-05-19 08:01:36 | -0.00254142 |
| 244277608 | 0.0028896 | 410105 | 2015-05-19 08:01:36 | -0.0028896 |
| 244277622 | 0.00328547 | 410106 | 2015-05-19 08:01:37 | -0.00328547 |
| 244277647 | 0.00373558 | 410107 | 2015-05-19 08:01:37 | -0.00373558 |
| 244277666 | 0.00424736 | 410108 | 2015-05-19 08:01:37 | -0.00424736 |
| 244277697 | 0.00482924 | 410109 | 2015-05-19 08:01:38 | -0.00482924 |
| 244277715 | 0.00549085 | 410110 | 2015-05-19 08:01:38 | -0.00549085 |
| 244277735 | 0.0062431 | 410111 | 2015-05-19 08:01:38 | -0.0062431 |
| 244277762 | 0.0070984 | 410112 | 2015-05-19 08:01:39 | -0.0070984 |
| 244277779 | 0.00807088 | 410113 | 2015-05-19 08:01:39 | -0.00807088 |
| 244277806 | 0.00917659 | 410114 | 2015-05-19 08:01:39 | -0.00917659 |
| 244277824 | 0.01043378 | 410115 | 2015-05-19 08:01:40 | -0.01043378 |
| 244277846 | 0.01186321 | 410116 | 2015-05-19 08:01:40 | -0.01186321 |
| 244277867 | 0.01348847 | 410117 | 2015-05-19 08:01:40 | -0.01348847 |
| 244277891 | 0.01533639 | 410118 | 2015-05-19 08:01:41 | -0.01533639 |
| 244277908 | 0.01743748 | 410119 | 2015-05-19 08:01:41 | -0.01743748 |
| 244277930 | 0.01982641 | 410120 | 2015-05-19 08:01:41 | -0.01982641 |
| 244277949 | 0.02254263 | 410121 | 2015-05-19 08:01:42 | -0.02254263 |
| 244277972 | 0.02563097 | 410122 | 2015-05-19 08:01:42 | -0.02563097 |
| 244277994 | 0.02914242 | 410123 | 2015-05-19 08:01:42 | -0.02914242 |
| 244278014 | 0.03313493 | 410124 | 2015-05-19 08:01:43 | -0.03313493 |
| 244278043 | 0.03767441 | 410125 | 2015-05-19 08:01:43 | -0.03767441 |
| 244278062 | 0.04283581 | 410126 | 2015-05-19 08:01:43 | -0.04283581 |
| 244278086 | 0.04870431 | 410127 | 2015-05-19 08:01:44 | -0.04870431 |
| 244278104 | 0.0553768 | 410128 | 2015-05-19 08:01:44 | -0.0553768 |
| 244278127 | 0.06296342 | 410129 | 2015-05-19 08:01:44 | -0.06296342 |
| 244278152 | 0.07158941 | 410130 | 2015-05-19 08:01:45 | -0.07158941 |
| 244278173 | 0.08139716 | 410131 | 2015-05-19 08:01:45 | -0.08139716 |
| 244278195 | 0.09254857 | 410132 | 2015-05-19 08:01:45 | -0.09254857 |
| 244278225 | 0.10522773 | 410133 | 2015-05-19 08:01:46 | -0.10522773 |
| 244278235 | 0.11964392 | 410134 | 2015-05-19 08:01:46 | -0.11964392 |
| 244286743 | 5 | 410135 | 2015-05-19 08:04:04 | -5 |
| 244286966 | 6 | 410136 | 2015-05-19 08:04:08 | -6 |
| 244287135 | 7 | 410137 | 2015-05-19 08:04:11 | -7 |
| 244287290 | 8 | 410138 | 2015-05-19 08:04:13 | -8 |
| 244287458 | 9 | 410139 | 2015-05-19 08:04:16 | -9 |
| 244287809 | 10 | 410140 | 2015-05-19 08:04:21 | -10 |
| 244288155 | 11 | 410141 | 2015-05-19 08:04:27 | -11 |
| 244288443 | 12 | 410142 | 2015-05-19 08:04:32 | -12 |
| 244288834 | 13 | 410143 | 2015-05-19 08:04:38 | -13 |
| 244289270 | 14 | 410144 | 2015-05-19 08:04:46 | -14 |
| 244291362 | 15 | 410145 | 2015-05-19 08:05:22 | -15 |
| 244291598 | 16 | 410146 | 2015-05-19 08:05:25 | -16 |
| 244291962 | 17 | 410147 | 2015-05-19 08:05:31 | -17 |
| 244292715 | 18 | 410148 | 2015-05-19 08:05:44 | -18 |
| 244293253 | 19 | 410149 | 2015-05-19 08:05:53 | -19 |
| 244293747 | 20 | 410150 | 2015-05-19 08:06:01 | -20 |
| 244296199 | 24 | 410151 | 2015-05-19 08:06:42 | -24 |
| 244296764 | 25 | 410152 | 2015-05-19 08:06:51 | -25 |
| 244297283 | 27 | 410153 | 2015-05-19 08:07:00 | -27 |
| 244302774 | 30 | 410154 | 2015-05-19 08:08:29 | -30 |
| 244303438 | 32 | 410155 | 2015-05-19 08:08:40 | -32 |
| 244305383 | 36 | 410156 | 2015-05-19 08:09:12 | -36 |
| 244306637 | 40 | 410157 | 2015-05-19 08:09:33 | -40 |
| 244316857 | 45 | 410158 | 2015-05-19 08:12:23 | -45 |
| 244320498 | 50 | 410159 | 2015-05-19 08:13:23 | -50 |
| 244321876 | 55 | 410160 | 2015-05-19 08:13:45 | -55 |
| 244322636 | 60 | 410161 | 2015-05-19 08:13:57 | -60 |
| 244335667 | 66 | 410162 | 2015-05-19 08:17:31 | -66 |
| 244336078 | 72 | 410163 | 2015-05-19 08:17:38 | -72 |
| 244336756 | 80 | 410164 | 2015-05-19 08:17:49 | -80 |
| 244337364 | 90 | 410165 | 2015-05-19 08:18:00 | -90 |
| 244345227 | 100 | 410166 | 2015-05-19 08:26:24 | -100 |
| 244345347 | 110 | 410167 | 2015-05-19 08:26:39 | -110 |
| 244345442 | 125 | 410168 | 2015-05-19 08:26:53 | -125 |
| 244345817 | 140 | 410169 | 2015-05-19 08:27:38 | -140 |
| 244346408 | 160 | 410170 | 2015-05-19 08:28:49 | -160 |
| 244346462 | 183 | 410171 | 2015-05-19 08:28:55 | -183 |
| 244350937 | 200 | 410172 | 2015-05-19 08:38:59 | -200 |
| 244350994 | 220 | 410173 | 2015-05-19 08:39:06 | -220 |
| 244351264 | 231 | 410174 | 2015-05-19 08:39:37 | -231 |
| 244351447 | 250 | 410175 | 2015-05-19 08:39:58 | 2500 |
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Quote from: grendel25 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:34 PM

The old saying, quit while you're ahead comes to mind. Don't expect to play a million tries and not experience the extreme 20+ loss streaks in a 50/50 game because it will happen very soon.

I have better advice. Don't play at all unless you get enjoyment from the thrill of the betting itself. If you're enjoyment comes from seeing your balance rise - you're going to get unhappy at some point as you'll keep gambling (thinking your balance will keep getting bigger) until you actually start losing.

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Quote from: alex21btc on May 11, 2015, 12:53:19 PM

I just testing martingale gambling method.

This is my experience:
After 2 days of gambling I collected 1500 Dogecoins
After 3 days of gambling I lost about 2000 Dogecoins

So I lost because, I have 20x negative times in row.
I expected about 18x or 19x.

Anyway, can anybody tell me what is max negative times in row?
Anybody have same expirience?

That's pretty normal and I'm sure many have had the same experience. The thing to remember is that even though losing a 50/50 bet 20 times in a row seems unlikely... it is very possible and happens routinely if you roll the dice, flip the coin, spin the wheel, kick the... well you get the idea.

The old saying, quit while you're ahead comes to mind. Don't expect to play a million tries and not experience the extreme 20+ loss streaks in a 50/50 game because it will happen very soon.

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Quote from: omahapoker on May 18, 2015, 12:06:53 PM

he has bots playing and when one has 93 losses in a row at 9% he starts betting till he hits. the bot makes smalls bets so 93 losses is only -1 clam. for posying sake i didnt show the first 90 bets

How big was your bank roll? Thats crazy and the only reason you survived is because you were only betting 1 satoshi. Most don't bet that low.

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Quote from: LiQuidx on May 19, 2015, 05:23:49 AM

There's no such a thing as max loss streak. It always depends on the payout you play and how long you are rolling at that. The longer you roll, the bigger the streaks will become (both good and bad).

Even though there is no longest streak, getting over 40 losses in a row at 50% is Very much impossible of sorts.
The max number of losses I have heard is around 32. Now consider the number of rolls happening on All the sites, must be Billions, and none of them have seen or atleast reported losses of more than 35 ever happening at 50%.

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it depends on the odds, if its very low around 30 you should expect 30 loss in a row if u are playing a lot of games

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Quote from: gkv9 on May 19, 2015, 06:45:43 AM

I personally had a worst streak on dogecoins dice testing only, I had 54 in a row...

I sent those coins directly from freedoge.co.in but lost them due to that streak, the coins were just 150 in total, and I was testing the dice with 0.00001 Doge per bet with x2 on loss...

54 at 49.5% is quite a lot. you probably hold a world record or something special for that streak.

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Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM

whoever has large bankroll takes the other one into it

how much big bankroll needed to play at dice but we have to keep in mind that thing losing streak with 2x payout can go up to 30 in a row if got that kind of losing streak with martingale than we can overcome or not? using martingale is always risky where house edge exist.

its simple as that ... explained below

you have 10 BTC and site has 1 btc then start with 0.05 btc bet and most probably u will eat the site's BANKROLL

If the site has 1btc bankroll, they they probably only allow max profits of 0.01 per bet (1%) Thats at a maximum. At just-dice, you would only be allowed 0.005 max profit (0.5%). Also, the max bet would also depend on the bankroll size, as the % stays the same. This would make it more difficult that you will eat away at the sites bankroll too much, even by playing martingale. But it is still possible to eat a lot of it. (maybe 25-50%?)

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I personally had a worst streak on dogecoins dice testing only, I had 54 in a row...

I sent those coins directly from freedoge.co.in but lost them due to that streak, the coins were just 150 in total, and I was testing the dice with 0.00001 Doge per bet with x2 on loss...

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I heard about 32 loses in a row but there is no such a thing as maximum loss streak..

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Quote from: Havelivi on May 19, 2015, 05:36:33 AM

Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:28:49 AM

Quote from: amiryaqot on May 19, 2015, 05:27:52 AM

Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM

whoever has large bankroll takes the other one into it

how much big bankroll needed to play at dice but we have to keep in mind that thing losing streak with 2x payout can go up to 30 in a row if got that kind of losing streak with martingale than we can overcome or not? using martingale is always risky where house edge exist.

its simple as that ... explained below

you have 10 BTC and site has 1 btc then start with 0.05 btc bet and most probably u will eat the site's BANKROLL

you have knowledge with 10btc bankroll doing martingale base bet 0.05 you can lost all your balance at 8 losing streak in a row, 10btc not a impressive bankroll to defeat the house edge.

generally speaking, if you have bigger bankroll than the house, you can eventually beat theirs. Your green streak is their red streak. Remember that. If you martingale, its like they martingale too but the other way around

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Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:28:49 AM

Quote from: amiryaqot on May 19, 2015, 05:27:52 AM

Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM

whoever has large bankroll takes the other one into it

how much big bankroll needed to play at dice but we have to keep in mind that thing losing streak with 2x payout can go up to 30 in a row if got that kind of losing streak with martingale than we can overcome or not? using martingale is always risky where house edge exist.

its simple as that ... explained below

you have 10 BTC and site has 1 btc then start with 0.05 btc bet and most probably u will eat the site's BANKROLL

you have knowledge with 10btc bankroll doing martingale base bet 0.05 you can lost all your balance at 8 losing streak in a row, 10btc not a impressive bankroll to defeat the house edge.

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Quote from: amiryaqot on May 19, 2015, 05:27:52 AM

Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM

whoever has large bankroll takes the other one into it

how much big bankroll needed to play at dice but we have to keep in mind that thing losing streak with 2x payout can go up to 30 in a row if got that kind of losing streak with martingale than we can overcome or not? using martingale is always risky where house edge exist.

its simple as that ... explained below

you have 10 BTC and site has 1 btc then start with 0.05 btc bet and most probably u will eat the site's BANKROLL

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Quote from: LiQuidx on May 19, 2015, 05:23:49 AM

There's no such a thing as max loss streak. It always depends on the payout you play and how long you are rolling at that. The longer you roll, the bigger the streaks will become (both good and bad).

yes and as i said the person with bigger bankroll can stay longer in martingale !

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Quote from: Nauro on May 19, 2015, 05:18:56 AM

whoever has large bankroll takes the other one into it

how much big bankroll needed to play at dice but we have to keep in mind that thing losing streak with 2x payout can go up to 30 in a row if got that kind of losing streak with martingale than we can overcome or not? using martingale is always risky where house edge exist.

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There's no such a thing as max loss streak. It always depends on the payout you play and how long you are rolling at that. The longer you roll, the bigger the streaks will become (both good and bad).

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