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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

I'm just trying to make an estimation of the People that gamble solely for the fun and I think it doesn't even equate the number of people that have their full interest on the winnings alone..

if there's actually a way to gamble without investing anything/ or maybe a way to invalidate the payment-on-winning option, I think that would prove better to us why people decide to invest in the first place.. meanwhile, don't always forget to recall in a hurry that GAMBLING IS A GAME OF LUCK.

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Personally I view gambling as fun in as much as I only gamble with the amount of money I can afford to lose and as a soccer fan it makes sense to me watching the game as well as placing bet on my favorite teams that are likely going to win having in-depth knowledge on soccer and it's bettings makes gambling on it as fun especially when I accumulated many matches with reasonable odd while staking with small amount of money, though earning money from gambling also serves as alternative source of income for me, infact I read stories of some third world countries where there is high rate of youth unemployment thus those resorted to gambling to make ends met.

Those stories of gamblers in third world countries making ends meet could be myths, as gamblers all over the world hardly make a living through the game. The difference could be that when there is a win, the player will be able to settle for his bill and debts. However, the need of gambling for financial purpose is not worth it, because of the nature of gambling. The casino is more interested in money, to keep the business rolling. What matters is providing a reliable service to the gamblers who utilize the platform. Although, it may seem to the gamblers that they're winning, but if calculated squarely the player will understand how the game is run in favor of the house, not the gambler. So as gamblers, doing it for fun is better than focusing on money, which may not be achievable.

Not really that actually a myth but rather its that on reality on which there were people who are really that doing gambling for the sake of making income or simply having that trying to make a living or surviving on day to day basis on which we know that it cant really be just that possible. Even if we do believe it or not but there are actually people who do able to make themselves profitable
but the numbers are really just that something that could be counted by your hand when it comes to gambling success stories. This is where people would really be thriving to get a hold with
on which they are really that trying out their very best to achieve such state and this what makes them really that being dedicative at the same time they are really that desperate.

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Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

Do you know that you can gamble without money? You can gamble and the winner will get 1 wish fulfilled. You can gamble with someone you are really close friends, a make symbolic bets, just to make it more real, more adult like. There is no obligatory that money must be involved while playing. I will give other example - working for free. Although every labor must be rewarded, but there are moment in life when you do something free of charge. Like helping friends. Will you charge them for your help?

Nop, I never knew and may not succom to it, in what terms do we describe it as gambling.

Gambling from the definition of my browser says "the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation. slot machines.

The definition seems clear and when using the term gambling something of value is always at stake, what you call gambling is just an assumption from two opposing ideas.

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Personally I view gambling as fun in as much as I only gamble with the amount of money I can afford to lose and as a soccer fan it makes sense to me watching the game as well as placing bet on my favorite teams that are likely going to win having in-depth knowledge on soccer and it's bettings makes gambling on it as fun especially when I accumulated many matches with reasonable odd while staking with small amount of money, though earning money from gambling also serves as alternative source of income for me, infact I read stories of some third world countries where there is high rate of youth unemployment thus those resorted to gambling to make ends met.

Those stories of gamblers in third world countries making ends meet could be myths, as gamblers all over the world hardly make a living through the game. The difference could be that when there is a win, the player will be able to settle for his bill and debts. However, the need of gambling for financial purpose is not worth it, because of the nature of gambling. The casino is more interested in money, to keep the business rolling. What matters is providing a reliable service to the gamblers who utilize the platform. Although, it may seem to the gamblers that they're winning, but if calculated squarely the player will understand how the game is run in favor of the house, not the gambler. So as gamblers, doing it for fun is better than focusing on money, which may not be achievable.

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Quote from: cozytrade on January 28, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

Not everyone has the same objective in opi gambling, every gambler has different objectives in gambling. Some people gamble to make money while others gamble for fun and enjoyment. But in my opinion it is better not to gamble to earn money. This is because the number of losses is high in gambling where the tendency to lose is more than to earn. As a result, some people are more vulnerable to top up their finances from gambling. Gambling for financial gain can never be fun. Gambling to make money is more likely to lead to gambling addiction. So in my opinion it is better to gamble for fun than to gamble for money.

We should take gambling as a partime rather than a career. If a person starts gambling to earn money from gambling, it is not right because gambling can never help to earn enough money to run a family. There are some people I think they are big fools thinking of running a family by gambling money. Gambling will sometimes result in loss and sometimes gain. No one can understand when it will be profit and when it will be loss and no one can guarantee it.

I strongly agree with that. Making gambling a job may become one of the worst decisions of an individual. It's not meant for that so we should use it only for entertainment purposes.
Do remember, online gambling keeps on taking back whatever we win and I think many would agree with me on this. I've seen it so many times so how the hell can we make it as a job if we cannot even make profits out of it in a consistent way?
That's in casino games but even if we focus on sports betting, there's no 100 percent accuracy on our picks there. I mean, I had been betting on sports for quite a long time now and I could say that even the heavy favorites could lose a game.
Some may suggest arbitrage gambling, but still, the profit there is way low that it could not put enough food on the table and to pay for bills. Yes, it's a profitable scheme but never meant for high profits.
There are a lot of ways to make money but I don't gambling is one of them and it was never a career. Yeah, I'd rather invest in something else than waste a lot of money and time in gambling while also jeopardizing my capital in the process. It's too risky and then there's the stressful environment when we are losing. It might affect our health too.

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Quote from: harapan on January 31, 2024, 02:48:11 AM

Normally Gambling is a game of Fun.
Once it turns to another dimension whereby money is involved it becomes pleasure.and this comes about when one is so addicted to this fun game and wants to explore and make out from it.

For some person they see it as a means of aiding their financial needs, because as they get their proceeds doubled by what they have,which inculcate in them that they can make it daily at anytime but they are forgetting that it will later on turnbout to be something disastrous when they start doing things and taking risk to meet up their finance.

I think that when a player begins to combine gambling and big money, it cannot be pleasure, it will either become work, or something dangerous, with a high risk of losing money. But gambling can always remain safe if you only play for what you can afford to lose, and if at the same time you follow risk management, then you will also have a good chance of earning something from it, if of course you have such a goal.

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Quote from: junder on January 31, 2024, 11:27:13 AM

Quote from: swogerino on January 31, 2024, 02:10:13 AM

Gambling is never for fun only no matter where the money comes from.I know of many people who say they gamble for fun but deep down that is a lie which I also say to myself to continue gambling.If all people who said they are gambling for fun they would be using the play for fun feature and not with real money,so let's not lie to ourselves,we only play to win more money.

I agree with that, maybe it's just an alibi, because when they gamble it means that what they really want is a win that can be obtained because in my opinion that is a value that can make us happy, because it's impossible for them to lose but they are happy, that's really not makes sense, except with responsible gambling it makes sense. When they gamble, it means they want to win, winning is the most important thing on every gambler's mind.

If you think about it, there are many other things you can do to get pleasure, some of which don't require money and are not as risky as gambling, because gambling is something that carries a big risk if it is done improperly or excessively. However, if someone experiences problems with their finances and takes steps to gamble, it is wrong, because gambling does not guarantee that they can solve their financial problems.

It could either be an excuse or a genuine reason. Let me ask you this, when you gamble and win some bets, do you feel happy and enjoy the game? That's what most gamblers seek, the excitement of every win, even though they might end up losing. It's not an excuse, but rather the fact that casinos have an advantage, and it's not easy to win against them.

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Personally I view gambling as fun in as much as I only gamble with the amount of money I can afford to lose and as a soccer fan it makes sense to me watching the game as well as placing bet on my favorite teams that are likely going to win having in-depth knowledge on soccer and it's bettings makes gambling on it as fun especially when I accumulated many matches with reasonable odd while staking with small amount of money, though earning money from gambling also serves as alternative source of income for me, infact I read stories of some third world countries where there is high rate of youth unemployment thus those resorted to gambling to make ends met.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 31, 2024, 02:10:13 AM

Gambling is never for fun only no matter where the money comes from.I know of many people who say they gamble for fun but deep down that is a lie which I also say to myself to continue gambling.If all people who said they are gambling for fun they would be using the play for fun feature and not with real money,so let's not lie to ourselves,we only play to win more money.

I agree with that, maybe it's just an alibi, because when they gamble it means that what they really want is a win that can be obtained because in my opinion that is a value that can make us happy, because it's impossible for them to lose but they are happy, that's really not makes sense, except with responsible gambling it makes sense. When they gamble, it means they want to win, winning is the most important thing on every gambler's mind.

If you think about it, there are many other things you can do to get pleasure, some of which don't require money and are not as risky as gambling, because gambling is something that carries a big risk if it is done improperly or excessively. However, if someone experiences problems with their finances and takes steps to gamble, it is wrong, because gambling does not guarantee that they can solve their financial problems.

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Quote from: arjunmujay on January 31, 2024, 02:04:51 AM

I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

Investment in altcoins and investment in gambling is totally a different thing. Rather there is no investment in gambling, it is just that you gamble with your money and you win or lose instantly. You can't do any planning or apply any strategy in gambling that makes you win in gambling.
Only there is money management which is not directly linked with the gambling results but it only makes the gambling loss to some extent minimal as you are not putting too much money in each bet and game you play.

In altcoin investment, you have the option to analysis the coin. You do both fundamental and technical analysis and then buy the coin. Even after this analysis, if the coin that you bought dumps in price, you have the option to hold it for some time until it recovers. This holds true for the meme coins too.
This is totally different from gambling, where the results are instant and based upon luck only.

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Quote from: cozytrade on January 28, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

Not everyone has the same objective in opi gambling, every gambler has different objectives in gambling. Some people gamble to make money while others gamble for fun and enjoyment. But in my opinion it is better not to gamble to earn money. This is because the number of losses is high in gambling where the tendency to lose is more than to earn. As a result, some people are more vulnerable to top up their finances from gambling. Gambling for financial gain can never be fun. Gambling to make money is more likely to lead to gambling addiction. So in my opinion it is better to gamble for fun than to gamble for money.

We should take gambling as a partime rather than a career. If a person starts gambling to earn money from gambling, it is not right because gambling can never help to earn enough money to run a family. There are some people I think they are big fools thinking of running a family by gambling money. Gambling will sometimes result in loss and sometimes gain. No one can understand when it will be profit and when it will be loss and no one can guarantee it.

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Quote from: harapan on January 31, 2024, 02:48:11 AM

Normally Gambling is a game of Fun.
Once it turns to another dimension whereby money is involved it becomes pleasure.and this comes about when one is so addicted to this fun game and wants to explore and make out from it.

For some person they see it as a means of aiding their financial needs, because as they get their proceeds doubled by what they have,which inculcate in them that they can make it daily at anytime but they are forgetting that it will later on turnbout to be something disastrous when they start doing things and taking risk to meet up their finance.

Indeed, gambling should be a fun activity because we play gambling games in our free time and do not have any goal other than to have fun. But many people abuse gambling as a way to make money, especially as they see on many sites some people can win a lot of money from gambling. That's where the interest arises in trying it, and when they try it, they find that it is not easy to win the gambling game, making them even more curious to try it until they win.

But even when they win, they don't immediately stop gambling. They even want to win bigger money, so they continue gambling. They think that if they can continue gambling and win bigger, they can earn bigger income and use it to meet their daily needs. But such thinking is wrong because they will find it difficult to get bigger wins. After all, gambling is not a way to make money.

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Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

Do you know that you can gamble without money? You can gamble and the winner will get 1 wish fulfilled. You can gamble with someone you are really close friends, a make symbolic bets, just to make it more real, more adult like. There is no obligatory that money must be involved while playing. I will give other example - working for free. Although every labor must be rewarded, but there are moment in life when you do something free of charge. Like helping friends. Will you charge them for your help?

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Normally Gambling is a game of Fun.
Once it turns to another dimension whereby money is involved it becomes pleasure.and this comes about when one is so addicted to this fun game and wants to explore and make out from it.

For some person they see it as a means of aiding their financial needs, because as they get their proceeds doubled by what they have,which inculcate in them that they can make it daily at anytime but they are forgetting that it will later on turnbout to be something disastrous when they start doing things and taking risk to meet up their finance.

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Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 26, 2024, 01:09:03 PM

We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

Not just memecoins alone, I did say some due to how new Altcoins in general are coming into the market daily and it turns out that majority of them ends up as scam and there investors lose their money. If I invest in any new Altcoins now I do not get too much confidence on getting back profits as this is what the market has become, Devs and team often rugs the project.

In a state where I'm not certain of getting back.what I invested then means I just gambled out my money, either a win (return of profit) or loss.

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Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 26, 2024, 01:09:03 PM

We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

Gambling is not entirely for fun, but there is fun in gambling, especially skill-based gambling like poker. Playing poker is fun for people who know how to enjoy it. I dont think it's right to say "losing money" for something fun, I prefer to say "using money" because I gain fun with that money. The enjoyment and entertainment derived from gambling can justify the monetary investment.

Almost every activity needs money to use, whether it's for the needs or it's for fun. Spending money on activities we find enjoyable is a common aspect of how we allocate our resources to enhance our overall well-being. By recognizing the element of fun in skill-based gambling and framing the financial aspect as an investment in enjoyable experiences, this contributes to a more balanced understanding of the motivations behind engaging in such activities. It acknowledges the subjective nature of the experience and the various reasons people may choose to participate in gambling beyond purely financial considerations.

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Quote from: arjunmujay on January 31, 2024, 02:04:51 AM

Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 26, 2024, 01:09:03 PM

We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

Gambling is never for fun only no matter where the money comes from.I know of many people who say they gamble for fun but deep down that is a lie which I also say to myself to continue gambling.If all people who said they are gambling for fun they would be using the play for fun feature and not with real money,so let's not lie to ourselves,we only play to win more money.

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Quote from: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 01:44:36 AM

Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 26, 2024, 01:09:03 PM

We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

I don't agree if gambling is equated with altcoin investment. because altcoins still have clear programs and good management. different from gambling which only relies on the luck factor.
Or is it possible that the altcoin investment you mean here is investing in memecoin?

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 26, 2024, 01:09:03 PM

We know, we also say that gambling is only for fun it's right. But in the end most of the gamblers I assume they do gamble for financial benefits. Once someone gambles for financial benefits and depends on gambling win/lose to livelihood means he is gambling-addicted.

I can't truly just accept the fact that gambling is actually for fun, we lose our money when gambling so meaning we just enjoy wasting our money even if we have nothing to do with it. On the other hand, anyone who actually does it as a means of earning financially to be able to meet up with cost of living is actually becoming an addict.
Gambling is more like investing in some Altcoins, if it happens to give profits fine and if it doesn't also good but we don't also say we rely on our Altcoins investment to carryout expenses on our cost of living.

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Quote from: dansus021 on January 30, 2024, 09:26:10 PM

But seriously what make gamble is fun sometimes because our prediction was right or we just basically playing game the different is all of this activities involving money and you win this is very good and you might think as your main source income just a glimpse

If our predictions are correct, it is fun and makes us happy. But there are times when we will lose because our predictions are wrong in estimating the team that has the chance to win, which may have happened many times before. Having money used to place bets is what makes gambling more fun, especially when we win. But when we lose, we will not feel happy and will be sad and disappointed because we lost. But we still place bets on other matches because we know we can win in other matches. But we should not consider gambling as the main source of income, especially if we do not have good analytical skills. It's better to use it as a means to have fun.

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