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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on February 02, 2024, 09:48:00 AM

I gamble both for fun and to make money, but my priority is always to have fun. Because the chances of getting rich gambling are very low. But the chances of having fun gambling are very high. If we bet on two matches with high odds, we probably won't win. But we will have 100% fun watching the match we bet on. That's why my priority is always to have fun. Of course, I also want to make money. And that's why I try to make the most accurate prediction. But I know I can't always win money. Because betting is a business of luck.

I perfectly understand what you just said and the motives behind your reason to gamble both for fun and make money but I think there's something I need to add here.
Gambling for fun have a total effect to a gambler than the effects of people that gamble for financial benefits. For you, it's okay to gamble for both but when you gamble solely because of the fun of it, you're very likely to get more winnings than someone who's gambling just for the financial benefits. Gambling because of the financial benefits that comes with gambling makes a gambler to be prone to gambling addiction since most of his gambling activities is targeted at making money. So with these my humble opinions, I'll always advice anyone who wants to gamble to do that because of the fun in gambling

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Quote from: bangjoe on February 03, 2024, 04:44:58 AM

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on February 02, 2024, 09:48:00 AM

I gamble both for fun and to make money, but my priority is always to have fun. Because the chances of getting rich gambling are very low. But the chances of having fun gambling are very high. If we bet on two matches with high odds, we probably won't win. But we will have 100% fun watching the match we bet on. That's why my priority is always to have fun. Of course, I also want to make money. And that's why I try to make the most accurate prediction. But I know I can't always win money. Because betting is a business of luck.

yes, it is like saying that winning is a bonus after we get pleasure from gambling, winning and losing gambling is not a priority for most people who seek pleasure from gambling, but it also does not deny that many people also seek financial gain from gambling, who seek financial There is much more to gambling than gambling, and yes, that is a fact that we cannot avoid if we look at it as a whole. Maybe you and I are one of those people who seek pleasure from gambling, especially when we watch a football match where there is a team we like, it will be much more fun in my opinion.

The main factor in gambling is seeking financial gain. The aim is to have fun. In my opinion, in the hearts of those who gamble with that aim, they also want profitable wins. and indeed winning at gambling should be considered a bonus if they gamble with the aim of having fun, but in reality I think more people gamble with the aim of winning, because that is the main thing every gambler is looking for.

In my opinion, the joy in gambling is in winning, not in losing, if we win then we will get pleasure, and what I want to ask is, where is the joy of gambling if not in winning?
Is there anything else that can make us happy apart from winning in gambling wins, because as far as I know many people who gamble are happy when they win. gambling for fun is that just an alibi?

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Every gambler would like to win such a big jackpot that will provide us financially for the rest of our lives, but that does not mean that we should risk everything we have to achieve it. But we need to be realistic, something like that doesn't happen so often and it doesn't happen to everyone. So we need to gamble for fun & entertainment, and if we win some nice amount of money that is just a bonus, but if we lose some money we will not lose our minds. In the end, it's nice to have some positive expectations when we decide to gamble, but we need to know it's gambling after all, so keep your mind on the game and try to be realistic. Don't expect a financial end if you chase x2-x3 with some small bets on crash or dice game. Wink

You'll eventually get lucky if you don't stop gambling. It's okay to lose as long as you can easily move on everytime you lose. it's the size of bet that matters regardless of the kind of games you are playing. When you think you are gambling for fun, mean it, never be ambitious of huge win that you tink you already figure out using your knowledge or skills as most of the time it's juts a false assumption, especially if we are talking about games that are purely based on luck.

Quote from: iv4n on February 03, 2024, 05:21:02 AM

It's individual how much money can someone spend on gambling... some people can spend less and some more money, it's not that important! What's important is that you play with the amount you feel comfortable with, the money you can afford to lose.

We have different allocation in gambling as it's based on how much our income is. As a rule of a thumb, never spend a huge percentage of your income as that is too risky, maybe 5% is acceptable, but still depending on how much you are making. If you make $1 million per month, I think $50k for gamble is still too much, you aren't doing it based on purpose to make big money as you are making good money in a monthly basis with a $1m per month.

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

Every gambler would like to win such a big jackpot that will provide us financially for the rest of our lives, but that does not mean that we should risk everything we have to achieve it. But we need to be realistic, something like that doesn't happen so often and it doesn't happen to everyone. So we need to gamble for fun & entertainment, and if we win some nice amount of money that is just a bonus, but if we lose some money we will not lose our minds. In the end, it's nice to have some positive expectations when we decide to gamble, but we need to know it's gambling after all, so keep your mind on the game and try to be realistic. Don't expect a financial end if you chase x2-x3 with some small bets on crash or dice game. Wink

It's individual how much money can someone spend on gambling... some people can spend less and some more money, it's not that important! What's important is that you play with the amount you feel comfortable with, the money you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on February 02, 2024, 09:48:00 AM

I gamble both for fun and to make money, but my priority is always to have fun. Because the chances of getting rich gambling are very low. But the chances of having fun gambling are very high. If we bet on two matches with high odds, we probably won't win. But we will have 100% fun watching the match we bet on. That's why my priority is always to have fun. Of course, I also want to make money. And that's why I try to make the most accurate prediction. But I know I can't always win money. Because betting is a business of luck.

yes, it is like saying that winning is a bonus after we get pleasure from gambling, winning and losing gambling is not a priority for most people who seek pleasure from gambling, but it also does not deny that many people also seek financial gain from gambling, who seek financial There is much more to gambling than gambling, and yes, that is a fact that we cannot avoid if we look at it as a whole. Maybe you and I are one of those people who seek pleasure from gambling, especially when we watch a football match where there is a team we like, it will be much more fun in my opinion.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 03, 2024, 02:17:39 AM

Quote from: len01 on February 02, 2024, 03:30:32 PM

one day we will always ask ourselves when we come to gambling with a feeling of wanting to have fun but are lucky to get a big win but why do we forget our own rules and become greedy?
sometimes a gambler has the intention to gamble to try his luck by having fun, but when he is lucky, a gambler should stop betting and withdraw his winnings and enjoy the results of that luck, but for some reason, to this day, I still find it difficult to commit when I get a small win, I can't. immediately stop gambling but have the desire to bet again for at least 5 or 10 more rounds.

therefore, most people often say that winning is the beginning of greed and greed is the beginning of addiction because it is a fact that we have to know that when we win big, we have to force ourselves to really stop gambling and we also have to force ourselves to end the session our bet.
this way is to avoid the regret of losing our winnings again when the initial plan was to gamble to have fun but in the end it ended in a bad way.

When someone wins, he will slowly become greedy and lose control of himself, making it difficult to tell himself that he has had enough gambling. At that time, he will feel that he still has a little time that can be used to place bets or continue gambling. But in reality, he can actually continue gambling when his time is up and that has often happened to us. That's why we have to be committed to being able to say that we've had enough gambling and we have to leave the casino immediately so that we won't be tempted to continue gambling. This requires continuous practice to restrain ourselves from continuing to gamble, especially in the casino. We will see more promotions that can tempt us to try it.

Most people who cannot stop themselves from continuing their gambling games will fall deeper into gambling. They will not be able to see that time is running out, or they have had enough gambling, or their money has run out. They just see they still have that chance to win one more round. And if that happens continuously without awareness to stop gambling, we will only become addicted to gambling without realizing it. We must indeed be able to force ourselves to immediately stop gambling because we will not have a big chance of winning the gambling game.

Even how you would really be experiencing those loses and on the time that you would be having that one time big win, then those disappointment and anger would be wiped away on which this would be causing for you to play up even more because you've seen that there's a glimpse of hope that you could really be able win up even more or simply those false hopes. This is why gambling industry is really that profitable
because people would really be having this kind of boost up when it comes into their emotions on the time that they would really be dealing up with gambling. We do know that this cycle never
ends and as long these platforms dont ceease to exist then there would really be always those people who would really be playing up no matter what.

Playing for fun? It should be but playing for money? this would really be the most common reason on why people do pushes up themselves into the limits.
This is why they do really end up on disaster because they do really make themselves that having those wrong impression towards it.

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Quote from: len01 on February 02, 2024, 03:30:32 PM

one day we will always ask ourselves when we come to gambling with a feeling of wanting to have fun but are lucky to get a big win but why do we forget our own rules and become greedy?
sometimes a gambler has the intention to gamble to try his luck by having fun, but when he is lucky, a gambler should stop betting and withdraw his winnings and enjoy the results of that luck, but for some reason, to this day, I still find it difficult to commit when I get a small win, I can't. immediately stop gambling but have the desire to bet again for at least 5 or 10 more rounds.

therefore, most people often say that winning is the beginning of greed and greed is the beginning of addiction because it is a fact that we have to know that when we win big, we have to force ourselves to really stop gambling and we also have to force ourselves to end the session our bet.
this way is to avoid the regret of losing our winnings again when the initial plan was to gamble to have fun but in the end it ended in a bad way.

When someone wins, he will slowly become greedy and lose control of himself, making it difficult to tell himself that he has had enough gambling. At that time, he will feel that he still has a little time that can be used to place bets or continue gambling. But in reality, he can actually continue gambling when his time is up and that has often happened to us. That's why we have to be committed to being able to say that we've had enough gambling and we have to leave the casino immediately so that we won't be tempted to continue gambling. This requires continuous practice to restrain ourselves from continuing to gamble, especially in the casino. We will see more promotions that can tempt us to try it.

Most people who cannot stop themselves from continuing their gambling games will fall deeper into gambling. They will not be able to see that time is running out, or they have had enough gambling, or their money has run out. They just see they still have that chance to win one more round. And if that happens continuously without awareness to stop gambling, we will only become addicted to gambling without realizing it. We must indeed be able to force ourselves to immediately stop gambling because we will not have a big chance of winning the gambling game.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on February 02, 2024, 09:48:00 AM

I gamble both for fun and to make money, but my priority is always to have fun. Because the chances of getting rich gambling are very low. But the chances of having fun gambling are very high. If we bet on two matches with high odds, we probably won't win. But we will have 100% fun watching the match we bet on. That's why my priority is always to have fun. Of course, I also want to make money. And that's why I try to make the most accurate prediction. But I know I can't always win money. Because betting is a business of luck.

That's true, gambling should be made for fun as priority for everyone and if the opportunity set in for making money then one should take advantage in such but insisting on making a particular decision for making profits while gambling will not work out as expected than giving us disappointment on each other because gambling is not a means of financial income, but we have have such as an added advantage upon each time we are gambling

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 02, 2024, 12:40:51 AM

Yes, winning can give us happiness, especially if the win is big. We want to get another big win and because of that, we will be lured back into continuing gambling even though we might not get as lucky as before. We will become greedy because we want an even bigger win so we are willing to sacrifice the winnings we have earned to get another big win. And at that moment, we will see that the big win will not always come after we win because it will also depend on our luck. If we are lucky, we can get that big win, but if not, we will only lose money, which could even take away all the money we have won. That's why we must be wise and know what we must do after winning. And it's better for us to immediately end the gambling game after getting a big win to enjoy the winnings and celebrate with our friends or family.

one day we will always ask ourselves when we come to gambling with a feeling of wanting to have fun but are lucky to get big win but why do we forget our own rules and become greedy?
sometimes a gambler has the intention to gamble to try his luck by having fun, but when he is lucky, gambler should stop betting and withdraw his winnings and enjoy the results of that luck, but for some reason, to this day, I still find it difficult to commit when I get a small win, I can't immediately stop gambling but have the desire to bet again for at least 5 or 10 more rounds.

therefore, most people often say that winning is the beginning of greed and greed is the beginning of addiction because it is a fact that we have to know that when we win big, we have to force ourselves to really stop gambling and we also have to force ourselves to end the session our bet.
this way is to avoid the regret of losing our winnings again when the initial plan was to gamble to have fun but in the end it ended in a bad way.

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I gamble both for fun and to make money, but my priority is always to have fun. Because the chances of getting rich gambling are very low. But the chances of having fun gambling are very high. If we bet on two matches with high odds, we probably won't win. But we will have 100% fun watching the match we bet on. That's why my priority is always to have fun. Of course, I also want to make money. And that's why I try to make the most accurate prediction. But I know I can't always win money. Because betting is a business of luck.

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Quote from: Awaklara on February 01, 2024, 11:21:23 AM

and if something bad happens to an irresponsible gambler, who does the gambler or the gambling site blame?
If addiction and responsible gambling can be controlled by everyone, perhaps not many gamblers end up getting worse due to irresponsible gambling activities.
most gamblers will probably have fun when they win at gambling. but on the contrary, more gamblers will not feel satisfied when they are losing. maybe we should be realistic, more gamblers don't think gambling games are not just for fun. most are oriented towards making a profit from gambling.

No one is to blame because gambling is done through their own responsibility and even if they have to be blamed, they themselves are the most responsible. Not everyone is able to be responsible for the gambling activities they carry out because the more addicted someone is to gambling, the greater the chance of losing a lot of money. This is a common occurrence because when they win a match they will have fun and when they lose they will definitely feel dissatisfied.

Of course there are many people who consider gambling as a means to make money even though there is uncertainty in it, but the fact is that almost most addicted gamblers think about making a profit from the gambling they do. So they are willing to sell anything to gamble and in the end they realize have to lose a lot of things.

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Quote from: dansus021 on February 01, 2024, 09:05:43 PM

Ahhhh yes when we do gamble and our predictions are correct it is fun and makes us happy, but when you win the greed is there waiting for you to grab the feel.
Besides that for me when we gamble Win is just a bonus and if we set up our budget for playing games like this gambling with real-life money win or loss is still in the line. Yes loss makes us feel sad at then of they day but if we only do gamble for fun and still in a budget loss or win we might still find the fun in a game.

Yes, winning can give us happiness, especially if the win is big. We want to get another big win and because of that, we will be lured back into continuing gambling even though we might not get as lucky as before. We will become greedy because we want an even bigger win so we are willing to sacrifice the winnings we have earned to get another big win. And at that moment, we will see that the big win will not always come after we win because it will also depend on our luck. If we are lucky, we can get that big win, but if not, we will only lose money, which could even take away all the money we have won. That's why we must be wise and know what we must do after winning. And it's better for us to immediately end the gambling game after getting a big win to enjoy the winnings and celebrate with our friends or family.

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Quote from: dansus021 on February 01, 2024, 09:05:43 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2024, 01:35:33 AM

If our predictions are correct, it is fun and makes us happy. But there are times when we will lose because our predictions are wrong in estimating the team that has the chance to win, which may have happened many times before. Having money used to place bets is what makes gambling more fun, especially when we win. But when we lose, we will not feel happy and will be sad and disappointed because we lost. But we still place bets on other matches because we know we can win in other matches. But we should not consider gambling as the main source of income, especially if we do not have good analytical skills. It's better to use it as a means to have fun.

Ahhhh yes when we do gamble and our predictions are correct it is fun and makes us happy, but when you win the greed is there waiting for you to grab the feel.
Besides that for me when we gamble Win is just a bonus and if we set up our budget for playing games like this gambling with real-life money win or loss is still in the line. Yes loss makes us feel sad at then of they day but if we only do gamble for fun and still in a budget loss or win we might still find the fun in a game.

That's how it should be since losing is inevitable. Therefore we must be prepared for this kind of scenario. If a gambler can't handle such situation because of the high hopes to double his wager, then his main desire is not to really have fun but to gain. It's a human nature to feel sad when we experience to lose but it's already a given situation that we should keep in mind before playing. Thus if you can't bear losing your money in gambling then don't force yourself to play to avoid having gambling problems.

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Quote from: dansus021 on February 01, 2024, 09:05:43 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2024, 01:35:33 AM

If our predictions are correct, it is fun and makes us happy. But there are times when we will lose because our predictions are wrong in estimating the team that has the chance to win, which may have happened many times before. Having money used to place bets is what makes gambling more fun, especially when we win. But when we lose, we will not feel happy and will be sad and disappointed because we lost. But we still place bets on other matches because we know we can win in other matches. But we should not consider gambling as the main source of income, especially if we do not have good analytical skills. It's better to use it as a means to have fun.

Ahhhh yes when we do gamble and our predictions are correct it is fun and makes us happy, but when you win the greed is there waiting for you to grab the feel.
Besides that for me when we gamble Win is just a bonus and if we set up our budget for playing games like this gambling with real-life money win or loss is still in the line. Yes loss makes us feel sad at then of they day but if we only do gamble for fun and still in a budget loss or win we might still find the fun in a game.

That is the problem because at the moment we win, instead of having a break we gamble more which turns our winning to nothing but a losing end.
And I could really feel this thing because I was in that situation until I controlled myself from greediness and thought that luck doesn't come always and you are right, it was just a bonus.

Gambling responsibly is the best thing to do. It was admitted that was hard to follow but if we are into the determination to do it, it can be possible. It takes time to develop, from practice to habitual.

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Yes it's true that gambling show be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of financial benefits, but do you know that if you remove the finance benefits out of gambling, like 70% of gamblers will stop gambling because since they are losing money on it, they would want win money if it goes their way, and secondly, in my locality, almost everyone that gambles do it with the hope of winning one day, which leads to addiction of many of them, but that monetary reward is the motivating factor that compell them to even gambles, the only problem most gamblers are facing is that they mostly gambles what they can't afford to lose, which always put them in a difficult situation at the very end of it all.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2024, 01:35:33 AM

If our predictions are correct, it is fun and makes us happy. But there are times when we will lose because our predictions are wrong in estimating the team that has the chance to win, which may have happened many times before. Having money used to place bets is what makes gambling more fun, especially when we win. But when we lose, we will not feel happy and will be sad and disappointed because we lost. But we still place bets on other matches because we know we can win in other matches. But we should not consider gambling as the main source of income, especially if we do not have good analytical skills. It's better to use it as a means to have fun.

Ahhhh yes when we do gamble and our predictions are correct it is fun and makes us happy, but when you win the greed is there waiting for you to grab the feel.
Besides that for me when we gamble Win is just a bonus and if we set up our budget for playing games like this gambling with real-life money win or loss is still in the line. Yes loss makes us feel sad at then of they day but if we only do gamble for fun and still in a budget loss or win we might still find the fun in a game.

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Quote from: Hewlet on January 26, 2024, 10:05:07 AM

I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?

It really depends on the amount of money you are gambling with.
If the amount is ridiculously low then all you have to do is enjoy the game and if you win you get a nice little reward.
That is how you have fun while gambling but for most people greed takes over and then they start betting heavy.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 01, 2024, 12:26:49 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on February 01, 2024, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: lizarder on February 01, 2024, 11:13:32 AM

The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.

But for a gambler to become responsible, they need to be destroyed first. What I mean is, mentally.

Under any circumstances, if a gambler suffers the worst defeat and huge losses in their gambling activity, the challenge to get back to their usual mentality will be hard. If that gambler were able to survive all the problems, difficulties, and challenges, that would make them a responsible gambler the next time they will push again to attempt a big win doing gambling.

Yeah, I think that's how it works. To learn how to gamble responsibly a person must lose several times a fairly large amount of money. Only this will allow you to stop, think, analyze your actions and begin to use risk management, deposit limitation and other useful techniques that will not only not lose large amounts of money, but also not to become a gambling addict.

If indeed they initially came and got involved in gambling with a wrong understanding of what gambling really is especially for some people who are too focused on winning and who make the chances of winning the reason for coming then yes maybe I would agree with this idea, by experiencing various bad events that can have a significant impact on their lives such as losing a lot of money in gambling which indirectly makes it difficult for them to run their lives then maybe this can change their mindset and point of view on gambling because there is something like a sense of trauma that can be the basis for someone to make changes, I believe that because in real life someone must first make a mistake to finally know or find the right path until finally a change occurs. By experiencing something like this maybe yes they can gamble with a more advisable approach, but it is also possible for them to eventually stop and that's good, but on the other hand I wouldn't rule out the other possibility that they could also end up stressed or crazy because of something like that. Grin

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 01, 2024, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: lizarder on February 01, 2024, 11:13:32 AM

The aim is for someone to be more open in facing the risks generated by gambling itself because gambling is actually an activity or activities that can destroy everything if you are not responsible.

But for a gambler to become responsible, they need to be destroyed first. What I mean is, mentally.

Under any circumstances, if a gambler suffers the worst defeat and huge losses in their gambling activity, the challenge to get back to their usual mentality will be hard. If that gambler were able to survive all the problems, difficulties, and challenges, that would make them a responsible gambler the next time they will push again to attempt a big win doing gambling.

Yeah, I think that's how it works. To learn how to gamble responsibly a person must lose several times a fairly large amount of money. Only this will allow you to stop, think, analyze your actions and begin to use risk management, deposit limitation and other useful techniques that will not only not lose large amounts of money, but also not to become a gambling addict.

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It depends on how you accept and use gambling. Gambling is used by many as a source of income and they feel that it will give them financial benefits and grow financially. Others use gambling only for fun. I am more in favor of using it as fun because it gives you control over yourself and makes gambling enjoyable and avoids major losses.

Quote from: Beparanf on January 26, 2024, 10:21:56 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-there-any-fun-in-losing-while-gambling-5479423
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gambling-for-fun-is-it-a-lie-that-we-tell-ourselves-5479442
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whats-your-view-on-this-is-it-fun-or-addiction-5478647
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gambling-is-not-a-means-to-an-end-do-it-for-fun-and-dont-take-it-as-a-job-5481347 - by you

I provided some of the topic but there’s a lot more the cover already this kind of discussion that will result to same opinion by other people regarding this matter. This topic has no exact answer because it varies on people preferences. We don’t give a fuck about others opinion about gambling.

Good catch man. Similar topics have been posted here many times so creating the same topic over and over again is stupid and shows that the op doesn't monitor the environment of this forum very much so he doesn't know the updates.

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