Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data - page 4.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Everything will depend on what it is on the TOS of that casino, if in the TOS there is something regarding that and since you accepted those conditions then it would not make too much sense to try to go against them if your win was big, in that case you will have no other choice but to accept your identity being exposed, you could ask nicely to the casino to see if you get some results, but besides that there is not much you can do in such case, now if this is not on the TOS then you have a way better position to ask for this information to not be revealed under any circumstances.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Even the casinos have your permission to publish it as it may have been discussed in their TOS. You should even be aware that they may share your personal information ^{[KYC or personal documents]} with other parties including the authorities if they suspect your activities for some kind of investigation.

You should really stay away from anything that might cause your privacy to be damaged, published or otherwise. It will even be vague about guarantees that your privacy and that of your KYC will be forever safe at the casino.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 30, 2022, 02:23:43 AM

That's ideal but maybe it depends on each casino's policy and if the casino really wants to reveal the identity of the person who won big, the casino should ask the winner first. And if the winner feels that it is not necessary, the casino should not disclose it to the public and only provide the letters of the winner's name or lottery number.

Perhaps if the winner feels that this could put him at risk by revealing his identity, he can file a complaint with his casino and if necessary, he can try to seek recourse to the courts. But it's best to resolve it amicably because this is between the winner and the casino.

The winner might file a complaint but I think that will be not necessary at all since it will only waste a lot of money and time. They can always settle it more privately than going in a court which will only bring hassle on each part. However, the casino should never go against with the privacy of the winner too, they should always respect it for the safety and security of the player. And I think whenever you are playing in reputable casinos, they are also responsible on following the rules and policies between the casino and the player.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

They can seek for damages if they think the site violates their privacy, it may cost a lot of money but I’m sure the court will always in favor of you. Though some site forces their users to follow their terms and conditions and if you didn’t read that you might not know that you gave permission to that site for your personal details, this is the problem of having a long terms and conditions, many are not reading it.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 30, 2022, 04:06:44 PM

Sometimes the bettors do the publicity themselves making show of their wins around their neighbourhood. Generally a responsible and well reputable gambling house will hide the identity of their winners especially when it involves huge amount, making it public will endanger the life of the winner. this where bettors need to read ToS before visiting a gambling site

They don't have to do that because it's on their TOS and they'll be the ones voluntarily going to choose whether they want to be exposed as a huge winner or not.
But it's a good idea that the casino may want to contact the winner as they'll just want to gain exposure with such wins. However, even if the winner doesn't want to get involved, they will make promotional materials showing that they've got someone on their platform won such amounts.

It would be just fine if they would really be showcasing that huge win from a player who do play into their platform which do able to hit and win big but the user had been identified which i do see for it to be ethical

for casinos on doing so or they should really be asking out on that certain user but if these things are stated on sites terms and conditions then as a user then you cant really make out some complaints in regarding to that.
When it comes to privacy then it should really be just right that users identity shouldnt really be that known or would be exposed but there are some who do really
been announced just for marketing purposes and boast up that win to make or create some hype.

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Quote from: QueenVera on October 30, 2022, 02:07:12 AM

But I think this things are clearly stated in the terms and conditions (T&C) of this gambling houses, maybe to help promote their payout capacity, and most times this crypto casinos are basically and mostly onlines and I really don't think is of more harm to winners.
On the other hand, I really don't see reasons why names of winners should be published without maybe consulting the winner through maybe a private email or so.

Making their identify public after they have won is not a matter of reporting the casinos to the law if it was already stated in the terms and conditions. Furthermore, if it wouldn't cause the winners any additional harm, there shouldn't be a problem at all publishing the name as you’ve stated earlier.

I have seen certain instances of big-winner gamblers being invited to collect their winnings from betting sites. In instances like these that I've seen, the winners wear masks to conceal their identities from the general public. I don't see a problem with that because they only did it to defend themselves from attacks by the general public, such as theft or armed robbery.

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Divulging your information to the public nowadays should always be consented. Idk what happened to keeping private information safe, but it seems that a lot of entities don't want to follow this and just want to boast their legitimacy by posting the identity of people who won big and whom they pay. Imagine if that will be the reason why the winner was put into harm's way in the first place, then a legal action might be taken against the platform who released their private information without consent just to tell the world that they are paying.

Idk if there is such a clause in KYC regulation that helps people who submit their info to be protected by such activities, even if it's within the ToS of the platform.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Yes of course, gambler should take casino company to Court for redresse because that is the only way a problem that can't be solved amicably be solved. Publishing big win as for me is not too bad in the sense that, it will make those who hate gambling to understand that gambling is bad as they think of it. Also it will also make people to understand that gambling is not always loss but there is win as well. There are some parents that think that gambling is one of the worst thing in the world because people play bet and loss or probably they loss more the way they wins. And their wins are very small so with that they are already discouraged. But if they heard someone wins big, they might encourage their children to play gambling and thinking to win big one day.

Remember before in Africa, parents refused to tell their children to play football but as they see that footballers make money from the matches they plays now in this generation every parents want their children to play ball. Because they see that footballers make money more than even the African graduates.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on October 30, 2022, 04:06:44 PM

Sometimes the bettors do the publicity themselves making show of their wins around their neighbourhood. Generally a responsible and well reputable gambling house will hide the identity of their winners especially when it involves huge amount, making it public will endanger the life of the winner. this where bettors need to read ToS before visiting a gambling site

They don't have to do that because it's on their TOS and they'll be the ones voluntarily going to choose whether they want to be exposed as a huge winner or not.
But it's a good idea that the casino may want to contact the winner as they'll just want to gain exposure with such wins. However, even if the winner doesn't want to get involved, they will make promotional materials showing that they've got someone on their platform won such amounts.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on October 30, 2022, 02:59:12 PM

I firmly believe that there are millions of gamblers who don't read the Terms and Conditions of the gambling sites they use. There's an agreement they actually agreed to when they signed up so it's hard to take legal action when you initially agree.

I'd like to point out a few things about the Terms and Conditions that users agree on and may not actually notice that it's listed.

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We may use a recognised third party provider to undertake these checks on our behalf or we may get in touch with you directly to provide us KYC documentation. By agreeing to these terms you authorize us to provide your personal details to such third parties, who will keep a record of the information we provide to them.

This absolutely true due to over excitement or do I say Hasting to signed up without going through those ToS would probably don't get it clearly to take note of those information before adhering to it. As a gambler it's your core responsible to study the gambling site which they are signing up.

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Sometimes the bettors do the publicity themselves making show of their wins around their neighbourhood. Generally a responsible and well reputable gambling house will hide the identity of their winners especially when it involves huge amount, making it public will endanger the life of the winner. this where bettors need to read ToS before visiting a gambling site

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

This is usually be found on Terms and Conditions or something like that and this is why its relevant that you should be reading up this thing but if you cant find about privacy disclosure or something in related then
you could directly ask the team on whats their taking when it comes to this manner whether they do have the rights or totally be protecting their winners privacy or not and then take a screen shot as an
evidence for them not to have an excuse if ever they would be making out alterations.If you are that confident on making big wins on the site then it would be relevant that you would really be
asking it out earlier just to clarify out in regards of your identity protect in case of a huge hit or winning.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

It boils down to their ToS. That's why it is very important in the beginning to read the rules of the casinos otherwise you might go in a situation like this.

If you don't want your not to be publish then ask them. But if they insists because it's on their rules then maybe you can't do anything about it even if you go to the court and sue them. Even winners in lottery are disclosed because that's what the rule states in most jurisdiction in the US.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

I think that the casino has the right to display it since it's been played on their platform and before we signed in them, we don't know if that's also part of the terms and conditions that we usually just pass on because of those long rules.

Also, there is probably a feature from most casinos to hide the identity of ourselves publicly. So that when we win big, people from the public wouldn't be able to see it if we turn on such feature about privacy.

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I think that every user should review the rules for using a gambling platform before making the registration process, as there may be a provision allowing the platform to use users' information for promotional purposes. At the same time, it is ruled out that any platform will do this, as in the most extreme cases it will display the user's nickname on the platform and not real information indicating his identity. This action will damage the platform's reputation and encourage users to leave it.
Of course, if it happened and the platform did so, the user would be able to track it judicially if the laws in his country support the gambling activities of its users.

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I firmly believe that there are millions of gamblers who don't read the Terms and Conditions of the gambling sites they use. There's an agreement they actually agreed to when they signed up so it's hard to take legal action when you initially agree.

I'd like to point out a few things about the Terms and Conditions that users agree on and may not actually notice that it's listed.

I quote from one of cassino.

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We may use a recognised third party provider to undertake these checks on our behalf or we may get in touch with you directly to provide us KYC documentation. By agreeing to these terms you authorize us to provide your personal details to such third parties, who will keep a record of the information we provide to them.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

It is indeed an infringement on the rights of the gambler, but whether the gambler should take such a case to court depends on the individual, a lot of gamblers wont even mind or simply look away, it is a very small percentage of gamblers who really hold their privacy to a very high esteem that would even want to consider taking a case as this to court.

Though i really urge casinos, most especially land based casino to learn to keep the privacy of their customer guided most especially when such a customer wins a big amount, on the other hand, i will also urge gamblers to try to reason with the casino when such a situation occurs, since the casino might mean no harm, they did what they did to show other gamblers that it possible to win such amount, at least to encourage them.

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You have to look into the ToS of the site that you signed up to, because they can have a clause in there ...that gives them the right to use your data in certain circumstances. (Example : Promotional material when you win Big)

I seriously doubt that the casino will disclose the players real identity, but they might give the players casino name and the BetID as proof of the big win. Roll Eyes

Unregulated casinos will do whatever they want to ... because they have nothing to lose, if they do something like this.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 11:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

There are certain rules or ToS of each casinos and some of it might also include disclose information such as the name of the winner especially on grand prizes. However, most of the time the gambler can talk it through with the casino and request it to be concealed.

About filing these kind of cases to court, you must have substantial evidence that they, the casino, are violating your rights or the terms they've set. If in any case, that disclosing information of the winners are include on the ToS, and you still decided to file a case about it, you might still get a chance to win however no damages will be paid rather they'll just conceal your identity as they have not violated anything.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 30, 2022, 08:47:59 AM

Do we have an online casino that posted the real name of their winner, I have not encountered one and you have not posted an example, but if there are casinos that posted the names of their winners then we should not support those casinos because its harmful, Drake openly posted that he won a big amount on Stake, it should be the winner themselves posting and not the
casinos, and yes you can win against the casino if they do not have in their terms that they will post the real names of their winners, you will have a good case here.

I don't use with real name on online casino trough not have to used KYC, its seems different if have online casino have to KYC early and need used my real name and identity when creating account. I think online casino all user not use their real data but some people when winning with big amount sharing by their self on social media account. Usually with online casino when publishing with bigger amount won just used username account only not publish with full name or real data when creating account.

I don't have any problem yet if got bigger winning and have sharing with my account name to public, could be motivate and other one advertising how to get referral way if have online casino give commission.

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