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Quote from: coin-investor on October 30, 2022, 07:47:59 AM

Do we have an online casino that posted the real name of their winner, I have not encountered one and you have not posted an example,

Same here, I haven't encountered any casino posting names of winners in their platform. Even the person involved in scam accusation, the casino is very careful in releasing information just not to give any important information about the offender/victim's identity.

Quote from: coin-investor on October 30, 2022, 07:47:59 AM

but if there are casinos that posted the names of their winners then we should not support those casinos because its harmful

That casino should be sued and the victim should be given money for the damage.

Quote from: pawanjain on October 30, 2022, 11:53:42 AM

It must be there in their terms and conditions which we never bother to read. Casino sites won't simply use their user's data without such conditions.
So in such cases where the user is concerned about their info or is willing to put up a case against them they simply show their terms and conditions against it.

There are no written terms wherein the Casino is allowed to announce the winners of any of their games may it be big or small. As a matter of fact, they actually stated the data privacy law and how they should handle the player data privacy.

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It must be there in their terms and conditions which we never bother to read. Casino sites won't simply use their user's data without such conditions.
So in such cases where the user is concerned about their info or is willing to put up a case against them they simply show their terms and conditions against it.

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I'm going to talk about my country's gambling websites and companies and I also believe that this happens in many countries, for example in my country when people win money at least in the first or second prize or a lot of money the websites and gambling companies gambling shows on tv the face and names of the winners and from what i could see its not because those people want to be famous when they show their face on tv, these people are complying with the TOS of gambling websites and companies so the answer to your question depends on whether the casinos' TOS does not mention anything about the obligation for the person who won something to have to show their face and name, so if the casino shows the person's name and face while the person has not given permission and Casino TOS doesn't say anything about mandatory winners having to show name and faces so that person can go to court to sue the casino

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Your privacy is your security, the online casinos know this that is why I don't see any reason an online casino will put your name in public. Any online casino that does this it means they wrote it in their terms and conditions. I will advice anyone that don't want their name to be made known in public as a big winner, they should always read the terms and conditions of any online casino before gambling.

Lotto are found to put their winners name to the public, maybe the management must have called the winner for this,which the winner accepted. It is also a medium for them to advertise the casino,and this brings trust of customers to the casino,therefore gamblers will feel free to bet big.

You can not take them to the court because God is our protector not the casinos. If your name is brought to public as a big winner and you don't like it,it is better you just let go of it,and don't gamble on their platform anymore. Going to court is a waste of time,resources and energy.

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Casino policy to disclose the name or identity of the big winner must be approved by the second party (the big winner). Casinos must not do anything that violates the privacy of visitors, there are certain limits that casinos must not cross to prevent visitors who win big from the threat of crime. Attaching a pseudonym can be done by the casino to publicize a visitor who has just won big, a visitor can sue the casino to court if his name is displayed on a billboard without his consent.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

First, they need to contact lawyers (since they won something big, they should have money for qualified lawyers) the legislation in each country is different and in some countries the punishment for mishandling personal data is strict and in some it is a symbolic fine, so there is no point in going to court and wasting time. In addition, in the ToS of casino it may be written in small print somewhere that they have the right to publish the names of big winners or, for example, that the condition for receiving the Jackpot is participation in casino promotions.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Gambling casinos are very intelligent these days and they have everything covered under their terms and conditions. We , as a gambler never pay attention to these details.

If anyone challenges them in a court of law, they can present their case and will come up with arguments and proofs which we cannot imagine.

So i don't think anything can be claimed in the law. You might win a case if you think a physical casino has violated the rules, but with online gambling casino, you need to be on the backfoot.

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Quote from: Taskford on October 30, 2022, 10:22:45 AM

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Name and surname are personal data of a person and in many countries such information can be disseminated only with the permission of its owner. So even if a casino will give the first and last name without permission, it violates human rights. To sue or not is a personal matter of each person whose rights are violated.

I haven't met information that someone sued a casino because of such situation, but I think that with a good lawyer you can get compensation from the casino.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

I think its not a problem if only the first name has been shown since somehow they do that for marketing purposes. Maybe the winner should be happy especially if the casino pays his huge amount of winning since this will not happen to scam casino.

But if the case they show the whole name of the winner (which I didn't see yet happening) then maybe they can sue them for risk of the action made of the casino since somehow its really risky to be shown to the public that you won such huge amount of money to them.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

I haven't read any news of a gambling platform disclosing the name of the winners without asking for consent from the winner. Even national media don't disclose the name of the person and just use alias to hide the identity of the winner. Reputable gambling platform knows about the danger and hazard to the winner if they disclose their names. Aside from that, they are bound to follow the data privacy law and I believe they are well versed about it.

Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Definitely! If any third-party services or individuals (not only gambling platforms) reveal information about a certain person, the victim can file a complaint against these entities and possibly charge them to pay for whatever damages it can cause him.

Maybe this article[1] can help us understand more about the topic.

[1] https://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publishing-personal-and-private-information

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

You know that most gambling houses do not like to pay out winnings. Those that do pay out will want to to everything to show that they are genuine and do pay out to winners. And the easiest way to let the public know they pay out is to make public the names of their winners. They know if they have to seek winners opinion, most of the winners will not want their names published and that is why they publish it without asking them. It is business strategy and cheap advertising for the gambling house.

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Are pertaining to online casino? Because this identity doesn't matter online since no one can identify your exact details such as where the winner live, full name and whereabouts since casino willpnly announced the winners name and that's not enough to doxxed unless the winner is posting it on his social media account. It will be hassle to file case on court against the casino since the winner country might be different on the casino hq. And also it will took a lot of resources to file a case and find a lawyer that will handle this kind of international case.

User has the right to file a case but it's just a waste of money and time to pursue it if the winner lives on different country. This is only possible for land based casino.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

This is mostly for people who gamble with FIAT as with in crypto,the casino only ask you KYC before giving you a big withdrawal and they never disclose your real data,sure they give your nickname that you use in the casino in the big wins and lucky wins like in Stake for example under every slot we play there are the big winners but there are only the nicknames shown there and even so only when the player have opted his username/nickname to be public,if he opted for private it shows as private under the big wins in the section.

I don't know any case that a crypto casino to have published the real name of a big winner,this is something not common in crypto while in FIAT I am not interested at all what they do.

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Do we have an online casino that posted the real name of their winner, I have not encountered one and you have not posted an example, but if there are casinos that posted the names of their winners then we should not support those casinos because its harmful, Drake openly posted that he won a big amount on Stake, it should be the winner themselves posting and not the
casinos, and yes you can win against the casino if they do not have in their terms that they will post the real names of their winners, you will have a good case here.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

But I haven't seen users who bet at gambling houses that win big, object in such cases, most of them who win big, are actually happy that the gambling site/team publishes the win, at least they are famous and can be interviewed about the victory.

• Whether publishing a user who won big on the internet could be detrimental to that user.

I don't think gamblers should hire lawyers in such cases, it's enough for the user to contact the management of the gambling house, that my victory does not like to be published, I think it's better than having to ask the court for help.

But isn't it each of us who wins big in gambling, there is a little arrogance and fun, that we can beat the bookie, publicizing the victory is part of that nature, proud. I think publish the win, the data remains safe.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Yes , they cam even sue the gambling house for releasing the data and their identity may subject to data breach so if they have enough proof and if it also damage their reputation so they can show to the attorney I am hundred percent sure that they can have some damage .

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

Hmmm I doubt that there is a cause of action against the gambling website, unless the person can show that he suffered damages due to the posting of their winnings on a gambling website.

In order to have a claim against the gambling company, you must show that there is an actual controversy and damages on your part as the plaintiff. Failure to show such cause of action will make it it impossible for you to claim any damages resulting from the actions of the gambling company.

Though this may be the case, I think that you can message their representative or their customer support to not include your names on the list, should you find it potentially dangerous on your part.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis. Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

If you can prove that there is abuse without your consent because it clearly stated in their terms what they can do to your information, then you can go to court, but can you cover the cost it will be very costly on your part, but so far I have not seen or read any online casinos that divulge their player's winning what they are going to get from exposing their players, people will not play on that kind of casino, they will lose the trust of the gambling community, in fact, online casinos are protecting their player's privacy more than the land-based casinos.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Ideally, gambling houses should not disclose the identity of the person who won big without first asking him. Unfortunately, this is not respected always.

Those gamblers who do not want their information to be public, but the gambling houses make their names public, can go to the court of law as this is a serious offense. Gamblers can claim damages to the gambling site on this basis.

Has this happened before? maybe you can include the news as a reference so you can assess the case more accurately, because I've never come across this before
Recently there was a forum member who had just won a Lambo at a fairly well-known casino here as well as some time ago someone had received a big prize, of the two people, one was recognized by the winner and the longer one was immediately detected because using same username in casino and forum so I have never found that casinos open player data when they win big prizes while on social media it's just a marketing strategy and it doesn't reveal real names only usernames and maybe the casino has asked permission first, just didn't publish about the permission

Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

depending on the legality of gambling in the user's country

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i think this applies to offline casinos. because it is very rare for online casinos to publicize their gamblers' big wins in the media.
as is the case in several countries i have seen offline casinos publicize gamblers' big wins on social media and TV broadcasts. and basically almost every gambler does not want his personal data to be published to everyone. because it will be a big risk threat that is accepted by the gambler. one of them is the threat of bad people who want to steal his money.

Quote from: noormcs5 on October 29, 2022, 10:58:04 PM

Do you think gamblers should take the help of courts in this case ?

it seems futile if the gambler has to ask the court for help. because if it was the policy of the casino no one would be able to help the gambler

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