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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 11:20:28 AM

William Shakespear said, 'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning.

When Shakespeare said this he does not mean it's about gambling

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Shakespeare uses this quote in order to describe Hamlet’s internal suffering. He is a prisoner twice over, once by the country of Denmark and the concerns he has about the King (and the King’s men (like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern)), and by his own mind. He knows that the current king killed the previous, Hamlet’s father. His knowledge of this tragic death haunts him, as do his intentions to get revenge.

If you're going to apply it to gambling it depends on who is looking, to a government that depends on its taxes and economy then gambling is good because they are the beneficiary of it, but for religious persons or countries where their form of government dwells on the teaching of their religious leaders then gambling is bad
It's not about either good or bad but who is looking.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 11:20:28 AM

William Shakespear said, 'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Only people decides it is bad for them or good since people define this differently.

Some will tell that its good to them because they find this platform as enjoyable them where they can practice there patience or remain focus on what they are doing. Also they achieve what they want and been satisfy that's why they say positive about it.

Also people will only tell bad about it because they experience the worse, they blame gambling while they are the one who takes some risky decisions about what they do on their bets. That's why they end up being in bad shape and lose that's this is one of the reason why they say negative about gambling.

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If you can control yourself while gambling, then gambling is not bad and might entertain you.
Actually this depends on how well you can control emotions, finances and time so that they can avoid something that can have a bad impact on them.
Every experienced gambler must be able to take responsibility for what he does to gamble without taking too many risks.
And if they think gambling is bad for them, they don't need to follow other people who gamble.

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Quote from: noorman0 on March 01, 2023, 04:38:46 AM

Gambling is bad depending on how you come and use it for what purpose. Not a few poor people also think that gambling is bad but they still come, because more than that they believe that they are entitled to luck, because of course, as long as it's bringing in money, people will flock.

Humorous words by gamblers around me, "gambling is good only when you win".

If a gambler conducts gambling according to his financial situation and if he does not waste his daily needed money then no one will call gambling bad. Again if one loses control and spends his necessary money on gambling then again it will be bad for him. But both cases will depend on the individual. When one wins he takes gambling with joy and when he loses he takes it badly. But naturally, gambling will be enjoyable with a mixture of winning and losing.

How to drive a vehicle to avoid accidents is the responsibility of the driver of that vehicle. There is nothing wrong with the vehicle, so gambling is one of them in my point of view.

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If you are addicted to it, then it's bad for you. Anything that will become your addiction is bad for you. I guess it's someone's own problem, not being able to control yourself. So I have to agree on this that nothing is bad. We just make them bad by our own actions. Proper knowledge and control over ourselves will indeed make it fun.
One thing I want to ask tho. If that's the case, are drugs good too?

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Gambling is bad depending on how you come and use it for what purpose. Not a few poor people also think that gambling is bad but they still come, because more than that they believe that they are entitled to luck, because of course, as long as it's bringing in money, people will flock.

Humorous words by gamblers around me, "gambling is good only when you win".

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I thought so too. Gambling is neutral and only we use excessive gambling, which has a negative impact on us, including heavy losses, gambling addiction and endless regrets. But when we treat gambling as it should be and only gamble in moderation, we can still have fun and enjoy our free time.

So if we do not overdo it in gambling, we are still fine and will not be affected by the effects of gambling addiction that arise after playing gambling for so long. But it's not easy because the temptation of gambling can come at any time and we have to be really careful when gambling. Do not use the money we cannot afford because it will only cause losses.

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"Every remedy can be a poison and every poison can be a remedy. What matters is the quantity."
I'm not saying that moderate gambling is a "remedy". It's just a way to have fun and spend some time and money.
Gambling moderately is OK(I won't say that it's something good), excessive gambling, which leads to addiction is bad.
The same applies to all bad habits. Basically, you are wasting your time and money for the sake of having a dopamine boost in your brain.
There are other more useful things to do in your life to give you dopamine, but we have chosen to play gambling games. Grin

In summary, I think that gambling isn't completely neutral, it stands somewhere between "neutral" and "bad".

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Quote from: coinerer on February 28, 2023, 08:39:45 PM

Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims. But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment. And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him

It's that gambling is a Habit when it becomes an addiction to a guy. But I think regular gambling can be easily play by making a monthly strategy or for a certain time I don't find any bad thing on this. Just take it as your entertainment purpose and do not make it your addiction. And also always keep in mind there will be high risk of loosing your fund so Investment as much as you can afford to loose.

When someone gambles regularly, a deep addiction develops. So it is very difficult for a regular gambler to maintain a limit. And a person who does not stay within a limitation will not be able to adopt any of his weekly or monthly strategies. So if one wants to adopt monthly strategy then he must first make a monthly limit. Then he has to start using his strategy. Then maybe he will be able to successfully use his strategy

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Honestly it all depends on who you are going to be asking, if you ask a winner who has gone from wagering a $100 bill to getting a million out of gambling there is no way such a person would ever say gambling is bad.. But if you ask someone that blew huge sums of money to a point of amassing debt, relationships breaking up and losing valuable properties as a result of trying to get back to winning ways then gambling will always be labeled bad.

Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 11:20:28 AM

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence.

Greed gets the best of us and this is why the house will always win.

Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 11:20:28 AM

The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Totally agree, winners know when to quit and it's sad people want to keep going even when you have made positive retains on your account only to give it back and probably get into the negative.

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Quote from: coinerer on February 28, 2023, 08:39:45 PM

Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims. But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment. And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him

It's that gambling is a Habit when it becomes an addiction to a guy. But I think regular gambling can be easily play by making a monthly strategy or for a certain time I don't find any bad thing on this. Just take it as your entertainment purpose and do not make it your addiction. And also always keep in mind there will be high risk of loosing your fund so Investment as much as you can afford to loose.

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This is bound to happen because some individuals overdo things out of proportion especially gambling after getting rekted they put the blame of their losses on gambling ignoring the fact that it was self inflicted because of lack of self discipline, moderation is very important in our daily activities likewise in gambling and I believe there are many successful gamblers who gamble according to it rules part of which is to gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose, take a leave after daily winnings or losing the total funds allocated daily instead of chasing losses or greediness to win more money.

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Muslim say gambling is bad because it's haram and forbidden in Al'Quran.

Some people are saying gambling is bad because they live in the countries where gambling is illegal.

And majority of people are saying gambling is bad because they gamble only want to make money, they don't feel fun during gambling.

So people who're saying gambling is bad either they're a Muslim, live in banned countries or only looking to make money.

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A person who lives in an environment where gambling has ruined the life of a close friend will definitely come to the conclusion that gambling is bad. On the other hand, a person who lives with an individual who gambles responsibly and that has never had a course to pour all of their money into gambling will conclude that there is nothing wrong with gambling. The separator in the two instances is "self-discipline," and we know it. It is like saying politics is a dirty game when, in fact, we know that politics in itself is neutral. It is the people's actions and inactions that have caused most people to label it as a dirty game, which it is not. I conclude by saying, "Please gamble responsibly."

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Since gambling cannot be managed by itself. So it is controlled by one person. Basically that person is liable for profit and loss from it. The better a person can manage gambling by controlling it, the more likely he is to win. Again his random uncontrolled gambling behavior could be the main reason for his downfall. According to me a gambler should understand about gambling. Gambling consists of luck and risk. So a gambler can reach the desired level at any time if he can manage responsible gambling without expecting too much from here. Gambling can be a platform for recreation if a gambler gambles without considering his greediness.

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Quote from: btc78 on February 28, 2023, 08:06:02 PM

maybe you are correct about it is our action the defies our faith in gambling but the gambling itself being created is already a place where desire and greed are built , what i wanna believe is the creation of this are truly bound for those bad things to happen and only the small part for the good thing.

Yeah we cannot blame gambling but the existing of it for me is what to be blamed , if gambling does not exist we will never face such problem and that is what i look in that matter, though many will disagree ? but for me it is what reality tells.

Gambling is not bad to me, but I will not support the view that our action defiles our faith if gambling is involved. The two core religions in the world don't support it, and I don't see a justification for that because they must have carefully weighed the good and bad sides of it before concluding on that.

This means, I leave faith out of it when I gamble because I don't want anything to deprive me of my happiness, especially when I do it responsibly.

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Everything returns to the gambler because we cannot control it, sometimes everyone has emotions and thoughts that are different from gambling, therefore before playing gambling everyone must know that there is a risk when you experience defeat you will also lose a lot of money if you cannot control yourself in playing jud.

I also often read people's stories about their big defeats and that's very unfortunate but when he thought at the beginning before he spent his money of course he already knew the risks of playing gambling, whether it's not good or bad gambling everything comes back to the gambler himself. after all we are all here can only give advice and can not control them.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 11:20:28 AM

Who else thinks so too?

Self control plays an important role for a gambler to have the right thoughts about gambling, with good self control the gambler will be able to play responsibly the money he uses for gambling is indeed the money that has been allocated for gambling and not using money for important things so when he loses he will never have the thought that gambling is a bad thing but it will be different from people who do not have self-control defeat will always damage his mind as well as when he wins because he does not have the right way of thinking about gambling.

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Shakespeare truly had great approach to issues humans experience in life. That's probably why he is one of the greatest playwrights and writers in history.
Well pretty much explained nicely by OP. Gambling as lifestyle can't be harmful when its done with discipline. If you set up your limits and goals, and can leave table/device at the moment you hit limit/goal then it will never damage you. Its always up to you. Most people don't consider same so waste money and time and they become "bad examples". But people are not same. You can be better one with discipline.

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Quote from: MiliMil on February 28, 2023, 12:46:17 PM

I have heard horror stories of people losing 5-6 houses and businesses to fund their gambling habit.

I always say if you can't control yourself or you have addictive personality disorder then don't gamble.

It is a vice, just like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and fast food. Self-control is needed.

People losing 5 or 6 houses is the exception, not something that is widespread. And they had all those houses to begin with, which means they were rich, people usually have a house half paid for. It is normal to lose more than expected at a much lower level. On the rest of what you say, I agree, and also with the general statement of the thread. It is neither good nor bad, just like a knife. You can use it to entertain yourself like most people do and walk away with some extra cash from time to time.

The problem is when people put too much hope in something where the odds are against them.

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