Gambling is Neither Good or Bad - page 6.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

William Shakespear said, 'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

In contrary, there is always things we all can agree about what's being good and what's being bad and everyone knew it. But, I can't agree more that in gambling aspect, there is nothing either good or bad about it, we can only come up with conclusion to an individual who's engage into gambling. It could either be bad or good at the end of the day.

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That's one good thread, however I can't completely agree with it. It could be fun activity but relaxing? No or may be your definition of relaxation is different from mine.

Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

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I also have to agree with the others that said it's bad because there's already enough information out there but people still fall for it.

I don't mind the others that find it good but for me when looking at the overall picture it's not enough to outweigh the bad effects of gambling.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

William Shakespear said, 'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I might not be qualified to dispute the assertion of an erudite scholar like Williams Shakespeare but I want to clarify that some things are totally bad. You cannot steal from somebody and claim that it is not bad. But I also accept his position that our actions and inactions determine the rightness or wrongness of our positions.

Gambling is not bad especially when it is not prohibited by your country or religious beliefs. Gambling moderately makes it acceptable but a careless gambler tarnishes the image of the act of gambling. This also applies to alcohol and weed use. If you can't control yourself, don't come close to them.

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But gambling is a vice, isn't it? Although it is not fair to consider gambling as bad, it is also not fair to consider gambling as good. In fact, if we closely look at gambling, it tilts towards the bad a little. This is just my personal opinion. And it's basically because in gambling, you will risk money, but you don't have to. It isn't something that is totally neutral. Gambling is avoidable. Money that is spent in gambling could definitely be used for something else more meaningful.

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Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims. But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment. And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.

I agree with this statement. It's because many gamblers unable to control themselves when playing, the effect of gambling in their lives are not good.

but maybe they have no complete idea about what can happen before entering gambling that is why they end up being a loser instead of earning from gambling?
we cannot tell actually because we all have different experience and starting in gambling world, some of us got interested on their own while others being lured inside the gaming.

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That's why many people are thinking gambling is a bad influence and can ruin your life if you engage yourself in this activity. But the truth is, the action of every individual when they gamble is the one to blame on why they end up in that situation (either good or bad). So it's not gambling, it's in the gambler's hand on how they want gambling affect their lives.

like what mentioned , it is not what everyone experienced , because it depend on how you understand gambling before starting and what you become in the end.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

William Shakespear said, 'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

Gambling has existed since the dawn of civilizations. The term chance is used as a synonym for random, that is, an event that can be partially or totally dictated by chance. By definition, gambling involves betting, which means investing an asset or financial value in predicting a future event, for which the outcome does not depend on the actions of the bettor.

The players' experience and skill have their roles limited by chance, which always participates in this type in variable proportions, from partial in cards, for example, to absolute as in slot machines. This makes gambling exciting and alienating, but really... it is not possible to blame gambling for the losses or addictions that players acquire.

Unfortunately, people who suffer from Gambling Disorder claim that the losses go beyond the financial area, interfering in their personal life (failing to carry out other activities), professional (productivity tends to drop) and family life (making the "foundations " of the family are shaken).

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maybe you are correct about it is our action the defies our faith in gambling but the gambling itself being created is already a place where desire and greed are built , what i wanna believe is the creation of this are truly bound for those bad things to happen and only the small part for the good thing.

Yeah we cannot blame gambling but the existing of it for me is what to be blamed , if gambling does not exist we will never face such problem and that is what i look in that matter, though many will disagree ? but for me it is what reality tells.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.

I agree with this statement. It's because many gamblers unable to control themselves when playing, the effect of gambling in their lives are not good.

That's why many people are thinking gambling is a bad influence and can ruin your life if you engage yourself in this activity. But the truth is, the action of every individual when they gamble is the one to blame on why they end up in that situation (either good or bad). So it's not gambling, it's in the gambler's hand on how they want gambling affect their lives.

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It isn't true. Very few users make such statements that gambling is bad. Most of the stories were the real incident sharing. Those stories doesn't mean gambling is wrong. Those were shared with a mind to make others realise the possible chances of gambling. Maybe someone can get themselves into discipline after reading the real life experiences shared by the gamblers.

With gambling self control is a must. As said, there are people who just gamble loss and complain it. Those are the gamblers who are into it for the very first time or they're experiencing loss for the first time.

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Quote from: aioc on February 28, 2023, 07:50:13 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Well, gambling for many is good when they are winning and bad when they are losing, and more so when they are chasing their losses, its your outlook and mindset that will make gambling bad or good, online casinos promote their casinos as entertainment hubs, and there is a price to pay to get the excitement and the entertainment that you want, some people are paying more than they can afford to lose and regret and try to win it back and that's bad gambling.

Thats how it works and thats how they do behave on which it would really be just that common if they would really be able to face up losing streaks then they would be thinking that it was bad and never been fair.
On the time that they would be making profits or making money then this is where they do call it to be good and decide to continue to play because they've seen those probabilities.
In overall its not really that bad since is a thing that gives leisure and entertainment, it is really just that people do falls down into believing that they could make themselves
rich and this is where actions been done are already getting worst or not really right at all.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Well, gambling for many is good when they are winning and bad when they are losing, and more so when they are chasing their losses, its your outlook and mindset that will make gambling bad or good, online casinos promote their casinos as entertainment hubs, and there is a price to pay to get the excitement and the entertainment that you want, some people are paying more than they can afford to lose and regret and try to win it back and that's bad gambling.

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I do agree. It's all about mental strength.
That is why it's difficult for me to understand why someone could become a gambling addict in a way that cannot be stopped anymore.
I have been a smoker and I found a way to stop it. Also, there was a time I could not resist drinking alcohol for a day and now I drink occasionally.
It will always be on how we take things from our own perspective. You can stop anything as long as you have the "will".
What I don't really like is those who cry from their own mistakes. Crying all over social media because they put all their money in one bet and lose it.
You make a mistake, you own it, and you can share the experience but not to the point where you are looking for someone to save you or give the money back.

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I completely agree on your point of view on gambling, actually, this is something I was taught by my parents when I was younger, not only about gambling but rather about any kind of activity like drinking, parties, video games, etc.

It reminds me those people who blame anti-social behavior on Video games or alcohol, all of them are neutral, what it is not neutral is how we react and cope to those things we do.

One could even ask to some of those people if they would blame a house being burnt down on either the fire or the pyromaniac.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 12:20:28 PM

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This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I do agree with your statement- it is on the nature of the consequences of the action of a person which makes anything bad. The problem with gambling on why it is associated as "evil" is due to its potentially addicting nature, where anyone can fall and succumb to it. You can say that a person, with the right discipline, can at least control his expenditures in gambling. But this does not apply to others where they can easily fall into this addicting activity.

At the end of the day, we are responsible for our respective actions. We also have the power to determine which actions we would do. In every little things, we decide whether we should do it or not.

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I think this view of people seeing gambling as something that is really bad or good is based on the actual person entirely. I mean if you gambler and tends to gamble frequently with many losses, its just simply obvious that he /she is going to be seeing gamble as a really bad activity but that would be a different view entirely for people that have good record when gambling.

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Quote from: Wexnident on February 28, 2023, 06:46:54 PM

I agree. I'd say the only reason gambling was even considered as a vice is because of how majority of the portrayed image of gambling to the public is addictiveness due to greed, which leads to their own destruction. Sadly enough, people who do know what they're doing aren't really being portrayed enough to the public so as to reveal what gambling can actually be.

It's not that it's bad or anything that people gamble to win money, but going past a certain limit, just like in any other activity can bring about negative consequences. It's more apparent in gambling since it directly involves money.

There are even religions that do see gambling is a bad thing or there are communities or people who do always have bad impressions and looks towards gambling.They do always look
into its negative side which is on making someone getting addicted and ending up their lives miserable.This is why they do really have this kind of approach and there's
no way that we could blame them in regarding with their perspective to it but it isnt really just right that they should really be that conclusive
just because they had seen just one side and not the other.

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Gambling can be both good and bad depending on the individual. Remember not everyone is mature has regard how they go about their gambling activities. The level of maturity for an individual determine if it is good for the individual or not this is my own ground of judging if it is good or bad for such individual. The point is just like gambling is problematic to some persons it is also a good fun tool for others and a good ground for profit for a few so therefore gambling is what one makes of it.

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I agree. I'd say the only reason gambling was even considered as a vice is because of how majority of the portrayed image of gambling to the public is addictiveness due to greed, which leads to their own destruction. Sadly enough, people who do know what they're doing aren't really being portrayed enough to the public so as to reveal what gambling can actually be.

It's not that it's bad or anything that people gamble to win money, but going past a certain limit, just like in any other activity can bring about negative consequences. It's more apparent in gambling since it directly involves money.

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