Topic: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? (Read 461 times)

Since not even the admins here have the courtesy to reply to my question on why they are deleting my answers when I'm telling the truth.

I've proven that Lauda is a self-righteous bitch, choosing carefully who she negs, even tho I provided evidence Hero and Legendary members were doing the same thing I have received a neg for. marlboroza is a petty penny hoarder, someone who puts his affiliate link and advertises gambling websites for a few bucks of the profit is not worth my time. Last, we have yogg - who attacked me and called me a crook even tho he was an account seller back in the day. So all in all, a great little circle jerk gang which can't see farther than their noses.

This will be my last post regarding this subject, I'm disappointed in the forum and the admins who actively were involved in censorship. This forum is going downhill, now you know why. Your power hungry, frustrated DT members are killing the community, I hope you're happy when you're left only with the circle jerk gang.

Sure. But I'm not one to leave feedback on people I haven't done business with. Despite my opinion on social media manipulation I'll neither neg you nor the other guy. I'm only here because of the complaint about the perceived hypocrisy of allowing gambling and tumbler ads.

Okay, now that you are the only one that commented on this, do you believe those members should be negged just like me? To paraphrase, does it deserve a neg at all(since if yes, then they must be negged and I will be waiting for the members to neg them)?

So we come to the conclusion that the following statement is false:


At least that's some progress.

Blindly investing is not much different from gambling. Unlike "companies" buying followers, casinos are at least not pretending to be anything else but.

Unlike tumblers that are also being used by privacy concious individuals, there's little to no use for fake twitter followers outside of trying to scam people.



I already stated my opinion on social media manipulation as a service. Just because I didn't comment on it, doesn't mean I condone it.

Wrong.

Is gambling okay? That's your question? I doubt anyone that has seen what gambling does to people can say it's "okay". I agree responsibility plays a role, but some people are born with a character flaw that gambling magnifies. Would society be better off without gambling? Yes, it would.

You can stand by your opinion, but you're the one that claims mine is childish and wrong.



Who's pushing opinions down someone's throat here?

I know what the consequences are. I know what the consequences of drinking or doing drugs can be as do most people. That's why most people enjoy these things in moderation, also like gambling, but that's up to the individual. What facts are you backing up exactly? Show me the facts that prove gambling is immoral. You are either not actually reading anything I'm saying or are incapable of understanding any opinion or argument to your own. None of what you're saying is relevant to the argument I'm making here at all. Nobody has said you can't get addicted to gambling so what exactly are you trying to prove? The argument is that gambling is not immoral nor does everyone get addicted to gambling. Most people do not get addicted to gambling. Most people do not get addicted to alcohol. The fact that some do is completely irrelevant.



I know why people enjoy gambling. It's the same reason why people like drugs, sex and chocolate. That doesn't mean people can't enjoy them responsibly. Again, you're trying to disprove an argument I'm not making.

Anyway, since you are incapable of actually making a valid point based on the arguments I'm making and I've said all I needed to say on the matter, I'll leave you with the answer to your question:

[is] Gambling is okay?

Yes. Yes it is. Get over it.

Actually a lot of advertisers are losing money because of fake bot views. Not just their advertising expenditure, but some of their legitimate enquiries are being blocked. It has become a bit of an issue, and it may be a partial contributor to their share price reduction.

So my morals are flawed because you say so when I say the same I'm childish? I doubt you've ever seen the consequences of gambling buddy, you can ask any psych in the world what his stance on gambling is. You can read up on it, but stop writing your own opinion and acting like it's the law, because mine is actually backed up by facts.


Twitter followers make people lose money the same way blindly investing does. Companies can buy followers so they can get coverage and spread the word to more people(because the way social media algorithms work, engagement + following = more impressions). It's on the investors to check the real project and what's behind it. Just because you have followers doesn't mean you are reputable.

I notice neither of you have anything to say about the thread where Legendary and Hero members buy fake services. Double standards? 

Serious question though, why do you think money is being spent on fake twitter followers, facebook likes and reddit upvotes?

No, the garbage is coming from you again. Gambling by itself isn't an addiction. It's a game/entertainment. Is drinking alcohol and having sex an addiction too? No, not by itself, but some people can get addicted to them both and lose lots of money and ruins their lives in the process. Your point is fundamentally flawed and based on pure ignorance.

You're the one who is acting high and mighty but you're too naive and blinded by your own ignorance to see this. You're acting as if gambling is a crime when in the vast majority of places it isn't (and it certainly shouldn't be). You should have zero authority to tell people what they can and can't do with their own money.


No. I think you're a child because you're behaving like one and are making arguments from a very childish/ignorant and misinformed mindset. You can oppose gambling all you want. You can oppose drugs as well, but I think you have zero right to tell anyone else what they can and can't do with their own money or body.


I know the consequences, but you don't know the facts and are making very faulty arguments based on opinion rather than facts. Most people can gamble or drink or have sex or eat chocolate or take painkillers without it becoming a problem. I can do all those things without them becoming an issue. Some can't. That's their responsibility to handle. You look after yourself and lets others look after themselves but just because some people can't handle their drink, drugs, or gambling habits doesn't mean everyone else can't and shouldn't be able to enjoy those things responsibly and it certainly isn't immoral of them to do so.


Your rank is irrelevant here, but your flawed morals and opinions are what we're judging you on.

Lol, I doubt people are losing money because of fake Twitter followers.
But if you want to talk about
Here's a thread where a few Hero and Legendary members buy or ask about SMM services: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buy-followerslikessharesviews-4-facebook-twitter-instagram-and-youtube-1937884


Feel free to tag them then or are there minimum rank requirements to buying fake followers? 

I think selling and buying followers are not trusted actions since in the end who buy followers does it to get more stacks on bounties.
So in my opinion this activity must be discouraged. I do not know if with DT red tag or not, this is not responsibility.
Imagine a case in which a user uses 10 accounts with 10,000 followers bought, the result is an undeserving division of the stacks.

In the end fake twitter followers and reddit upvotes are still being used to manipulate people into losing their money to someone else, every other view on things is rather naive.

Besides you seem to imply that it's hypocritical / logically inconsistent to accept gambling and tumblers while battling social media manipulation, which is sort of a weird argument to make. Just because one thinks that gambling and tumblers are OK, they also have to accept social media manipulation? Should being OK with people smoking weed also lead to being OK with investment bankers peddling potentially toxic assets?

In an ideal world legality would fully coincide with morality, alas this is not and can not be the case. In the end a community has to police itself and if it finds a certain set of behaviours acceptable (eg. gambling) while condemning others (eg. social media manipulation) you either play by the rules or find yourself a community that shares your values.

Again a load of garbage. Gambling is a fcking addiction and can lead to large losses and a disaster. I already apologized for the e-mails and closed the thread a few days ago. Stop acting so high and mighty, I'm being negged for fraudulent marketing which is absurd. Lol, so fake followers are a fraud but advertising god knows whos casino is totally legit.

You think I'm a child because I'm an opposer of gambling? That fact alone shows how much you know about the consequences, "casual gamblers" are just addicts waiting to be born. Suit yourself. Obviously, this is no place for me, as it's totally unimportant what I or any other lower ranking member has to say. The only things that matter here are senior members and their flawed morals, you're untrusted if you don't oblige to their "judgment" lol.

Here's a fun thread where a bunch of Hero Members buy SMM services: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buy-followerslikessharesviews-4-facebook-twitter-instagram-and-youtube-1937884

What do you think? 

He's showing the flaws in your infantile logic. You are clearly a child with a very immature opinion if you think Gambling is one of the 'worst sins' and the only person who is ignorant here is you. Everybody else is being completely rational and logical except you.


Gambling is just entertainment for most people. I know many people who gamble very occasionally and it's just a bit of fun for them. Sometimes people win and sometimes they lose but they know what they're doing. I know a lot of people who drink alcohol occasionally and have met very few people who have ever had a problem with it. Some people might ruin their lives with gambling/drinking/smoking/drugs/eating/sexing/driving, but that's their own issue to deal with and people are responsible for their own habits and addictions and I think that should be none of your concern.


How about you practice what you preach and stop being a huge hypocrite? Some people believe in the choice of freedom so stop trying to push your own opinions and beliefs down the throat of others. Nobody cares what you personally think is a sin. People should be able to do what they want with their own money and that includes gamble, buy drugs, sex or whatever else you might think is sinful. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to gamble and people have a choice and nobody else is responsible for that. The people who's personal details are on that email list you're trying to sell that is probably compiled illegally and likely without their consent have no say in the matter of who buys their personal info, so yes, that is more immoral and shady than advertising a gambling site in my opinion.

Well, thanks for taking the time to engage in the discussion anyway.

I'm not a good person to be involved in this discussion. I don't think accounts should be bought and sold, and I've just read your sig.

Destructive to this forum? What does this forum have to do with my services? I never sold accounts of Bitcointalk, nor Merit, nor anything. The point of this thread is why my services are so "frowned upon" by higher-ranking members, while they earn their money from gambling websites. You'll soon be left with only Hero and Legendary members since everyone else is bullied into leaving the forum. Seriously, trust has become a total joke, I hope you realize this before it's too late. Lauda first wasn't sure whether I should receive a neg, then marlboroza pointed out they tagged someone for buying Reddit upvotes so they tagged me. If you're not sure in the first place, wouldn't it be fairer to remove that users neg than to neg me? If you already had a doubt in your mind, how can you act so freely?

I think we are getting away from the main point in this thread. That relates to the sale or purchase of rank, favour or reputation. I haven't looked at your specific case, but as a general principle, I support Lauda in his belief that such traders are destructive for this forum. I started to post on Steemit, but I backed away a bit when I realised that one had to purchase the promotion of one's content, and that quality was of secondary importance.

We can argue who knows more about it, but I'd rather not talk about it. It's fair to say we are both knowledgeable about it.

So should I start a fake follower education seminar informing people that fake followers exist? Should I tell them companies use fake followers on social media or is it fair to say that it's well known? Drugs are also a well knows subject, when is the forum going to start advertising them? I'm sure everyone knows the risk of using drugs.

Your funds are insured in banks at least up to a certain point depending on the country, mostly around 50k to 80k. It's safe to say whoever deposits more than that has done his research or at least has someone who does his finance.