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Topic: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? - page 2. (Read 461 times)

legendary
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@Ludji

Actually I probably know more about gambling than you do. I ran a horse racing book at school. I played cards for a living for a year when I was 19, and I helped a friend to set up a casino in the West End of London. Also, I made money playing Blackjack in Casinos before they changed the rules. I've also promoted on-line casinos.

Now lets look at alcohol. Excessive alcohol or alcohol dependence is bad - there is no question about that. Is alcohol in moderation bad? well I don't believe that it is. What is bad is cheap alcohol, and this is because of the impurities in it. It is far better to educate people in the enjoyment of the taste of quality alcoholic drinks, and to wean them off the pursuit of escape through the effects of alcohol. Much the same applies to gambling. It is far better to address the causes of destructive behaviour, than to try to ban it, and force it underground.

With reference to banks - how many people research the banks exposure to toxic debt and derivatives, or understand the risks of bail-ins, Their choice of bank is a gamble based on the bank's advertising in most cases.
jr. member
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People lose homes on the stock market. #BanStocks #BanOptions #BanInvesting
Cash is used by criminals. #BanCash
Banks are used by criminals. #BanBanks
Cars are used by criminals. #BanCars
Running is used by criminals. #BanRunning
Bitcoin is illegal in some places. #BanBitcoin
People lose homes through lawsuits/criminal investigations. #BanTheLegalSystem
The Internet is used by criminals. #BanTheInternet

etc

What are you trying to get at? Gambling is one of the worst sins a man can have, it's made so only the casino wins. Don't try to dumb it down. The stock market is a capital market, gambling has no purpose other than to make the casinos money. Your stupid examples have only shown how ignorant you are of the damage gambling can do. Also, I don't see any regulation in the Bitcoin gambling world, do you?

The promotion of gambling sites is a difficult decision. Gambling choices are a part of modern life unfortunately. Even the choice of a bank to use for your fiat transactions has become a bit of a gamble. People visit casinos for recreational purposes, and, if they are sensible and don't lose more than they would spend on other entertainment, then I believe it is their choice. Addiction in any form is bad, and people should seek help if they do have a damaging addiction - this includes smoking, vaping, drugs, alcohol, and sex as well as gambling.

I have promoted gambling sites in the past, and I have pointed out to players that they will lose. The choice of casino just varies the rate and the amount of the loss. By restricting recommendations to the sites that provide the best entertainment value, I believe that you are helping a surfer who is determined to play. It also provides a chance to include links to sites and services that will help the surfer to control his losses.

They are most certainly not a part of modern life. The choice of a bank is a gamble, please clarify this point? People visit casinos because they are gamblers, you clearly have never seen the damage it does to both people and their families. There is nothing "recreational" about it. Sensible is an unknown term for any gambler. You've pointed out players will lose? It's like selling drugs and saying people will die, it's not any better mate.

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"By restricting recommendations to the sites that provide the best entertainment value, I believe that you are helping a surfer who is determined to play"
-No. Just no. Look, you can advertise it all you want mate, nothing will come of it, but what you believe in is certainly not true. You're not helping anyone.

Please don't get me wrong, you're free to do whatever you want, but I'd like to ask you, is selling fake followers or views comparable to promoting gambling, a sin that is illegal in some states and that has cost people their home and life. Why are these members deciding what is moral and what is not? Where is their moral or did they earn the right to not have morals and judge others at the same time?



legendary
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The promotion of gambling sites is a difficult decision. Gambling choices are a part of modern life unfortunately. Even the choice of a bank to use for your fiat transactions has become a bit of a gamble. People visit casinos for recreational purposes, and, if they are sensible and don't lose more than they would spend on other entertainment, then I believe it is their choice. Addiction in any form is bad, and people should seek help if they do have a damaging addiction - this includes smoking, vaping, drugs, alcohol, and sex as well as gambling.

I have promoted gambling sites in the past, and I have pointed out to players that they will lose. The choice of casino just varies the rate and the amount of the loss. By restricting recommendations to the sites that provide the best entertainment value, I believe that you are helping a surfer who is determined to play. It also provides a chance to include links to sites and services that will help the surfer to control his losses.
legendary
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After their "consideration" Lauda decided to give me neg trust because they already negged one user for buying Reddit upvotes(and I'm selling them). Meanwhile, the members "considering my case" either advertise gambling or tumblers-mixers(which are used by criminals). So, I ask you, members, how is what I did immoral and wrong, but advertising gambling websites, which is illegal in some states, is totally okay with everyone? People lose homes gambling, which can't be said for fake Twitter followers lol.

People lose homes on the stock market. #BanStocks #BanOptions #BanInvesting
Cash is used by criminals. #BanCash
Banks are used by criminals. #BanBanks
Cars are used by criminals. #BanCars
Running is used by criminals. #BanRunning
Bitcoin is illegal in some places. #BanBitcoin
People lose homes through lawsuits/criminal investigations. #BanTheLegalSystem
The Internet is used by criminals. #BanTheInternet

etc
jr. member
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I post in this forum because I want to see what the users think and because nobody is replying on the original thread since marlboroza "warned" them not to reply.
This is blatant lie. I suggested users not to reply to your off topic replies:
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I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.

I already said that and quoted it? You are both evading like crazy, yet feel the need to give out lessons to users who are not looking to do any wrong here. Answer the question I asked you already and stop evading.You still, haven't come up with a good answer?
legendary
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I post in this forum because I want to see what the users think and because nobody is replying on the original thread since marlboroza "warned" them not to reply.
This is blatant lie. I suggested users not to reply to your off topic replies:
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I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.
jr. member
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Hey man, why you post it in meta? Trust isn't moderated by forum. There is appropriate reference link why you got tagged. And I think it's valid reason to tag you.

I post in this forum because I want to see what the users think and because nobody is replying on the original thread since marlboroza "warned" them not to reply. Also, this is a forum-wide issue and concernes the forum and staff.


You've said this already yet done the opposite. You seem to be a liar.

You still haven't answered the question Lauda. I just want to see what the users of Bitcointalk think about this, maybe they're not all hypocrites like you and marlboroza.
legendary
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Hey man, why you post it in meta? Trust isn't moderated by forum. There is appropriate reference link why you got tagged. And I think it's valid reason to tag you. Move your topic on reputation from lower left.


Meanwhile your senior users advertise illegal things and they are the law here. I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!

What you mean illegal things? And who is promoting affiliate links ?

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something that is illegal in some states
Forum isn't limited for some state. Forum is like open source. Bitcoin isn't legal all over world. So we need to closed this forum?
legendary
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Don't worry, I'll leave the forum, you've done your job.
You've said this already yet done the opposite. You seem to be a liar.
jr. member
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I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!
There are no affiliate links in any of the mentioned signatures. Time to go away and everyone will be much more satisfied.

I was talking about this thread from marlboroza, by the way, who accused me in the first place:

I need best ad network for gambling site

So Lauda, you think that it's okay to advertise something that is illegal in some states, plain wrong and can cost someone their life literally? Why are you both evading the question? Don't worry, I'll leave the forum, you've done your job. Nice to see how DT members are responsible and not emotion-driven. Meanwhile, you dumdums can't even answer a simple question, because you know very well how wrong you are. Stop being hypocrites and acting like saints when you're not. What you're doing is ten times worse for the community.
legendary
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I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!
There are no affiliate links in any of the mentioned signatures. Time to go away and everyone will be much more satisfied.
jr. member
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Merit: 5
So I received neg trust just now by a user(Lauda) after being accused by marlboroza.

I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.

I just want the users and staff of Bitcointalk to realize what they are doing. I never scammed, lied, or cheated anyone on this forum and I received neg trust. Meanwhile your senior users advertise illegal things and they are the law here. I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!
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