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March 03, 2020, 10:36:08 AM
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.
I don't think so, even when I am still actively betting on dice, I am very much interested on how this game become a provably fair, and I have made some research and at the same time tried to build a working strategy on my own, but all of them were still useless as I realize I would not win in the long run, but at least I was able to convince myself that I fully understand how the process goes.
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March 03, 2020, 10:31:49 AM
Some gamblers care about the process, There are people who trust in the process, It's not rare to see that kind of people but everyone here is hoping for a good outcome of the thing they are doing. Most of us believe that following the right process will increase the odds or make your desired outcome more possible.
Yeah, some passionate guys do love the process like I am one of them who loves betting on sports and when I make bets on a particular event it gives me extra energy while watching that event while if I am not betting on it, I am though supporting a particular team or player but I don't feel the same level of energy and this makes me bet more and more on my favorite sports like tennis and sometimes NBA.

It's true that some risk-takers are the one who didn't care about the process and just hoping for a good outcome, But I believe that there are many people care about the process to get the outcome they want.
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.
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March 03, 2020, 02:41:19 AM
Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome.
Being very hones't I am not really sure what you are trying to say because your statements sounds contradictory to each other. Look everyone wants to win money and that's the basic aim when you gamble no matter if you are gambling first time or if you have made million bets, there is no fun in watching dice numbers rolling over your screen and I can't see how someone would have fun in the process.

Yes, I know that everyone wants to win. But some people will enjoy watching the dice numbers rolling even if they will lose in the end. That person will wait for the outcome too. Waiting which numbers that will come out can make us feel a fast heartbeat, and if our numbers come out, we will feel happy. The money will follow that feeling, and we will see that our money will increase.

If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.
No one tries to win the game, people try to win bets they make at certain games. I agree on that last statement you made because no matter how much anyone brags about their gambling skills and maybe sports prediction accuracy but eventually they all are at lose in long term.

Overall I do believe, fun seeking gamblers are loving the process of gambling whereas profit-seeking gamblers are bothering about the outcome of gambling. If you love the process then you could enjoy your activities while you are gambling and this is how, I do believe we must gamble.

You are right, and I also agree with you because in the gambling, there will be a process that we need to enjoy, and there will be an outcome that we can get, no matter we lose or win.
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March 02, 2020, 08:48:56 AM
Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome.
Being very hones't I am not really sure what you are trying to say because your statements sounds contradictory to each other. Look everyone wants to win money and that's the basic aim when you gamble no matter if you are gambling first time or if you have made million bets, there is no fun in watching dice numbers rolling over your screen and I can't see how someone would have fun in the process.

If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.
No one tries to win the game, people try to win bets they make at certain games. I agree on that last statement you made because no matter how much anyone brags about their gambling skills and maybe sports prediction accuracy but eventually they all are at lose in long term.

Overall I do believe, fun seeking gamblers are loving the process of gambling whereas profit-seeking gamblers are bothering about the outcome of gambling. If you love the process then you could enjoy your activities while you are gambling and this is how, I do believe we must gamble.
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March 02, 2020, 08:14:39 AM
I think I am with the process.

I am not addicted to gambling to be honest but I keep on coming back since I really love to find out how would I be able to get a strategy that would fit my betting style and obviously, the balance that I have. To reduce the way that I am a bit expecting from those bets, I visit gambling sites with faucets so I don't really have a money to spend but my time to waste keeping on doing a certain strategy in a day. The outcome is not that bad but the process, well, it is not something you will be proud of but something that you will be tired of but I keep on doing it since sometimes it is exciting especially if I am getting a good outcome.
From reading what you have said, I can only say that you are addicted to gambling since you know nothing is gonna work and you still try to find strategies while you also don't have money like you said you use gambling faucets to try your strategies and methods.

While it is a good thing that you are not loosing your own money at least but for me time is money and you are wasting a lot of time claiming faucets and then burning it to find something that works for you. I have no problem how much time you waste like this but if I was in your place I would rather make some money in that time and then bet real amounts to win something significant, out of curiosity are you a student?
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March 02, 2020, 01:30:07 AM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.
Indeed, I'm just sticking in my guts. It was only sportsbetting, I mean it was less complicated and less risky than other forms of gambling. Just make sure you have a good background on the sport you are betting in and as much as possible it must be your passion in order to make better analysis and predictions plus a feeling of enjoyment of course Cheesy.
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March 02, 2020, 01:16:41 AM
You are correct. The process is actually much more interesting than the outcome. The thrill involved and the anticipation is what most gamblers look for.
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.

Yes I agree that process are very important than outcome in lottery is very important the process its been good and trill. But in gambling process or outcome is different but we need to be smart so that we can gamble that we enjoy it not to be addicted.
In the lottery, you can pick a random ticket, no matter how you choose, the result will determine if you are lucky or not. I think the process and the outcome will not be different because we still need the luck to win, so you might think that enjoying the game will be better than to think about the process and the outcome. But it will be okay if you still think about those two things as you will need to enjoy the process and accept the result.
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March 01, 2020, 07:59:08 PM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.
Free predictions are okay if there's a detailed explanation but i've rarely seen tipsters continue to be profitable since they eventually start charging fees for tips. Depending on the sports you plan to bet on following others could be better and save you some extra time from researching if you don't know the players that well. The difference between trusting ourselves and a free tip in the long run is not that far since only a few are capable of doing so unless you've manage to stay in profit after tracking thousands of your bets.
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March 01, 2020, 07:04:14 PM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.
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March 01, 2020, 06:55:50 PM
You are correct. The process is actually much more interesting than the outcome. The thrill involved and the anticipation is what most gamblers look for.
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.

Yes I agree that process are very important than outcome in lottery is very important the process its been good and trill. But in gambling process or outcome is different but we need to be smart so that we can gamble that we enjoy it not to be addicted.
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March 01, 2020, 06:51:50 PM
Of course players wants an outcome because they want to gain more money ,but process still important too because in everyday you play in gambling you will learned what you do next but in others gambling like lotteries it is hard to get a good outcome because we know very low percentage to win in that game and only and luckiest people can win and no one can knows who is that.
If we know how transparent they are in terms of processing the result, ain't no question with that and you can't be able to give you a doubtful mind if you know how the result is generated. Gamblers will consider it first before put risk in gambling and put their bet and this is also a way to become attractive to the eyes of gamblers. Lottery games are purely at luck base game and I don't know how people generate some patterns on it and applied it in picking numbers to bet with.
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March 01, 2020, 03:44:18 PM
Gamblers that prefer to love the process are more likely the ones who are away fron being addicted because they are probably doing it just for fun. On the other hand the one who are more focus on the outcome are the one who will probably become depress after loosing or worst become addicted because of wanting the jackpot

I'm more inclined to think it is the other way around

That is, it is those who are in for the fun of it that are more likely to get addicted. Those who are gambling solely for monetary gains will be disappointed by their results (if they are not extremely lucky) and leave as soon as they realize they won't be able to make any money with this activity. As other addictions prove (e.g. gaming addiction), you are addicted to a process (drugs, sex, rock'n'roll, to name but a few) rather than the end result, while gambling exclusively for money is certainly about the outcome (read, financial gain), not the process
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March 01, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

There are different types of gamblers aome prefer to sit down and enjoy the process but others are more on hitting the jackpot to become instant millionaire. Gamblers that prefer to love the process are more likely the ones who are away fron being addicted because they are probably doing it just for fun. On the other hand the one who are more focus on the outcome are the one who will probably become depress after loosing or worst become addicted because of wanting the jackpot.
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March 01, 2020, 08:11:29 AM
Of course players wants an outcome because they want to gain more money ,but process still important too because in everyday you play in gambling you will learned what you do next but in others gambling like lotteries it is hard to get a good outcome because we know very low percentage to win in that game and only and luckiest people can win and no one can knows who is that.
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March 01, 2020, 07:58:29 AM
So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I'm a lazy person so if I will gamble, I will go for lottery too compare to other gambling games.

It is easy to gamble in lottery, just pick numbers and wait Cheesy. In gambling, research or the process of winning is useless if you are not lucky enough to win and not disciplined enough to stop if you won already. Since I'm a lazy person, I would like to wait for the outcome only although there are some who really cares about the process and they will do some research so that they will win.


How I wish I am also lazy so I would just gamble in lottery and will stop analyzing games to bet on, lol..
Seriously, that's really up to us, everyone of us might have our favorite game to play on and as for me, betting in sports is what I am interested on playing right now but that does not mean I would love this forever, maybe if I find another game that would give me more fun then I'll surely shift my interest.

BTW, I bet on lottery to but I am not so optimistic on winning as I know my chance.
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March 01, 2020, 07:41:38 AM
So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I'm a lazy person so if I will gamble, I will go for lottery too compare to other gambling games.

It is easy to gamble in lottery, just pick numbers and wait Cheesy. In gambling, research or the process of winning is useless if you are not lucky enough to win and not disciplined enough to stop if you won already. Since I'm a lazy person, I would like to wait for the outcome only although there are some who really cares about the process and they will do some research so that they will win.
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March 01, 2020, 06:57:19 AM
Who cares about the process? We are the one who are only cares the process, the gamblers and the risk takers are just the one who cares the process, but the outcome? Everybody will see that the outcome is the most important part of it because it's either you win or you lose that is just the important thing.
The people will just see the results and never the process on how you will be able to win.
Some gamblers care about the process, There are people who trust in the process, It's not rare to see that kind of people but everyone here is hoping for a good outcome of the thing they are doing. Most of us believe that following the right process will increase the odds or make your desired outcome more possible.

It's true that some risk-takers are the one who didn't care about the process and just hoping for a good outcome, But I believe that there are many people care about the process to get the outcome they want.
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March 01, 2020, 06:22:09 AM
Who cares about the process? We are the one who are only cares the process, the gamblers and the risk takers are just the one who cares the process, but the outcome? Everybody will see that the outcome is the most important part of it because it's either you win or you lose that is just the important thing.
The people will just see the results and never the process on how you will be able to win.
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March 01, 2020, 05:44:05 AM
However, even if you are gambler that bets only a week or one that gambles everyday for a streak of days, both are interested in the earnings after all. So everyone wants to have a positive outcome not interested in the process

This reasoning is self-defeating. If you think thoroughly about it, you will see that the goal of making profits cannot possibly be the primary driver behind people gambling years on end. Barring a few extremely lucky guys who are able to win continually and those practicing a fail-safe variety of martingale, which actually allows them to earn profits (however small those might be), people are losing as otherwise casinos wouldn't even be able to make it. But if you are losing and you are well aware of the fact (which is almost always the case), the only plausible reason why you are continuing to gamble is enjoying the process, not the outcome. Simple logic, isn't it?

Anyone willing to challenge it?
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March 01, 2020, 02:48:01 AM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
Essentially the player will gamble for the win in the back of their mind. The tendency to gamble is inherent in humans and the availability of casinos allows for this primal urge to resurface, that is why the casinos are profiting from the players. Now many players will cite that they are here to enjoy their time and so they are gambling. That is just a blanket statement to cover their urge for gambling.

My point is that the outcome is not always important, the process of gambling may bring joy and that is the reason for playing casually between friends and at leisure once a while. Of course not addicted gamblers.
We all humans have this urge of winning games, competitions especially the ones that involve money. Those who gamble just once a week or once in two weeks are those who are really gambling for fun but those who gamble on a daily basis stating that they are seeking fun are the ones who are after money.

It is true that gamblers are searching for the entertainment.
However, even if you are gambler that bets only a week or one that gambles everyday for a streak of days, both are interested in the earnings after all. So everyone wants to have a positive outcome not interested in the process.
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