Gambling: process vs outcome - page 6.

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Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on February 05, 2020, 02:13:24 PM

Quote from: sana54210 on February 05, 2020, 12:06:07 PM

I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.

Well gambling is all about defying the odds.

People naturally get a thrill when they successfully defy the odds, and people chase that thrill.

It's kind of similar to a near-death experience, once people experience the adrenaline rush, they often become thrill-seekers and extremists trying to relive that feeling.

Personally, I just gamble for a passtime, I'm not in it for the money.

same here. since am not for possible winnings anymore, i am more inclined about the process. just to pass the time using extra extra money. if i win, i treat that as a good bonus. because if it will be on the outcome side of things, it means = theres a lot of stake for me and the process doesnt matter anymore, but the outcome.
i guess you cant enjoy both if you have bigger stake on the line...unless you dont care your possible losses afterwards

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Quote from: sana54210 on February 05, 2020, 12:06:07 PM

I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.

Well gambling is all about defying the odds.

People naturally get a thrill when they successfully defy the odds, and people chase that thrill.

It's kind of similar to a near-death experience, once people experience the adrenaline rush, they often become thrill-seekers and extremists trying to relive that feeling.

Personally, I just gamble for a passtime, I'm not in it for the money.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 05, 2020, 10:51:05 AM

It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.

Outcome does really matter and as said most gamblers wont really mind on the process and would always target out on what would be the result.

Enjoyment will vary on how he do cherish nor utilize those things along the way while its still on the process.For some they would mind that much
but as majority, they wouldnt care too much and just wait for the result of things.

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Quote from: Docnaster on February 04, 2020, 02:24:24 PM

For me, it really depends on the game I'm playing.

Certain games are worth playing just for the experience, whereas others are purely for the results.

I think games like roulette and lottery would be games I only play to win with. Where's I'm not so concerned when it comes to games like Dice, poker and minersweeper.

I sort of agree with you as for me sports betting is the main source of fun and entertainment and sometimes I am betting on Djokovic while actually wanting Federer to win, that sort of fun I believe more in process because I am involved with the game and don't care as much with the outcome of my bet. While when I am betting on dice and other instant sports, I am usually very focused trying to apply certain strategies and making sure I try to win from each session of gambling.

Honestly, I never liked lotteries for a simple reason that chances of winning are pretty low and it's much better to roll on high odds at dice rather than doing so with lotteries. Moreover most lotteries providers have higher house edge as compared to instant games.

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I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

Technically, I think both outcome and process are necessary not only in gambling but also in different industry. If you will take a look, process is really significant because this will only tell how or what supposed outcome it will be. However, it still depends on what game you are unto like if you play the pure luck based game I don't think process is necessary anymore but if it is skill based game like poker then process really matters.
Now in the case of lotteries I don't think process needed anymore the fact numbers are just picked randomly thus can be classified as pure luck based game.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 05, 2020, 10:51:05 AM

It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.

Outcome really matters and this is the most important part of gambling. Outcome will be the one to decide if you are a winner or not, outcome will be just the other people will see they will not see the process of your hard works because at the end of the day people will look at you as a winner or a loser , and at the end of the day you will be the one to think that the process will also important but the people out there will just see the results or the outcomes of your hard work or the process that you have done.

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It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.

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Quote from: hahay on February 04, 2020, 06:29:34 PM

First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.

The lucky will be the final goal for some people and it can't be blamed because most of gambling place use 70% lucky and the rest an experience from the gambler. I believe that, but when I used to play gambling at least I can avoid to facing a lot of lose. I know that this situation (when I'm playing gambling) will lose or win. So, as you have said that the procces is something thag very useful rather we are directly see the outcome that will get.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 04, 2020, 06:18:10 PM

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The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Well, do the math for the Lottery but I would advise you that don't try wasting your time.

Every lottery offers a very slim chance of winning to the bettors, so your math skills here are useless as this game is just purely based on luck.

Well, it is true but the thrill for me is that despite that slim chance, that percentage based on Mathematics' probability I can still win. That proves that even application of Mathematics is everywhere, if there is a chance added, you can prove it wrong. I know this is stupid but for me, the way gambling refracts math is amazing.

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Quote from: peter0425 on February 05, 2020, 08:15:33 AM

if we really deserve to win then we will win but if not?even how large your money is?still you will lose.

Winning and losing are the only two outcome when we are gambling, but our discipline will be measure on whether we are capable of stopping when we are in any situation. I hope gamblers are aware than even if we are winning, we also need to stop and more when we are losing because without control, that would only make us desperate and we will be losing control which will only lead us in making bad decision.

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 05, 2020, 07:48:02 AM

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.

Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go Cheesy

. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait Cheesy

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Actually it's not necessary to bring a huge amount in casino in order to win, you just need to be lucky to win big because there are different games in casino were you can play like roulette, slots, and etc. However, compared to lottery, there's a big difference as when you win the jackpot, you can choose to stop gambling and just enjoy your big winning.

or be with those skilled people to have you win also?
when i was starting to gamble?there is my Gambling Buddy that i am joining everytime he Gambles,but sad to say he Passed on so i start playing my own that is why also i become addicted back then.

if we really deserve to win then we will win but if not?even how large your money is?still you will lose.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 05, 2020, 07:40:39 AM

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.

Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go Cheesy

. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait Cheesy

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Actually it's not necessary to bring a huge amount in casino in order to win, you just need to be lucky to win big because there are different games in casino were you can play like roulette, slots, and etc. However, compared to lottery, there's a big difference as when you win the jackpot, you can choose to stop gambling and just enjoy your big winning.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.

Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go Cheesy

. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait Cheesy

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

IMHO lottery gamblers do lot of calculations,I don't know on what based they are doing this but lottery freak calculating lot of things before picking their number.Most of the guys calculate the numbers on what they are facing on particular day I don't even understand that shit but their intention is simple they can win,one day and become a millionaire. Cheesy

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Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2020, 07:49:24 PM

I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.

Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.

There are many people who do their thing in a different way and they are doing it to get their expected outcome, I believed that doing the process right even if it is long or hard is the key or the guide to get the outcome that is determined into a game. I trust the process and some games have a designed process in order to win or to get the outcome you want.

a good game example is already given above. c s , dota or any competitive games that we see on a esportbetting site. by these games , each game compose of teams which consists of players . each player has their own role , by knowing these process we can increase our chances of winning . however , on rare times, no matter how we study the process we cant still avoid to get rekt. sometimes miracle happen too on games like this because loosing team suddwnly makes a comeback and win the game .

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Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2020, 07:49:24 PM

I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.

Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.

There are many people who do their thing in a different way and they are doing it to get their expected outcome, I believed that doing the process right even if it is long or hard is the key or the guide to get the outcome that is determined into a game. I trust the process and some games have a designed process in order to win or to get the outcome you want.

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Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2020, 07:49:24 PM

I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.

Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 04, 2020, 06:04:08 PM

The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Usually with this kind of mindset, the process outweighs the result regardless if it is a win/loss. Most of the time, dice games are more inclined and suited to people who see outcome as their priority while card games are for people who enjoy the entire process.

Quote from: Bitinity on February 05, 2020, 02:10:41 AM

Both process and outcome are important for me absolutely. Process, it means that I should enjoy the game that I play and outcome is the dream of gambling where people hoping to get good result anytime they are gambling. Of course, I also hope for the best outcome whenever I do gambling but if the outcome is not what I expect then I should not regret it because anytime I started to gamble means that I'm ready for anything.

If you view it this way, then you will most probably avoid being addicted as you both enjoy regardless of the result of the game. Generally, people who chase for profits prioritize the outcome rather than the process. They would see to it that the result is what matters as it involves around getting money to answer for their financial conflicts, etc.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM

So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome?

I don't bet on the things that I don't know.

I only bet on soccer games, for example if there is a game between Manchester United Vs Manchester City

First I watch the last 5 manchester united games against other teams

Then I watch Manchester City last 5 games against other teams

Then watch the last 5 games between manchester united and mancheste city

After that I start to analyze the data (things like goals scored away and at home, goals conceded away and at home, injuries of the players, who will play... etc)

In short, I analyze the game before placing a bet.

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