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legendary
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October 04, 2021, 04:59:35 PM
I believe whether skill-based it is all the game of chance and one should not think she or he is skilled enough not to loose money in playing gambling. All gambling is a game of chance in my opinion and the analysis provided above by op may just be theatrical even crypto currency trading that is purely skill-based in some situation maybe seen as a game of chance.

Besides the chance, its must that at least one should have enough knowledge in playing the game to avoid loosing lots of amount. Yes, chance do play an important role, however unless and until you are aware of what you playing and how you playing it, there are times, we may loose the chance to win. So chance or luck alone, wont help. It will often lead to loose more. So knowledge on what we are playing will support us to win the game.
Just dumb that you would play into something like strategic kind of games without having any idea? Playing the game alone wont really be that possible with just the basics.
You would need to be smart and at least does have experience.

Whenever you do deal up with things then it is just understandable that you would really be needing for you to know on how it works.

People does have different preference thats why we do really end up on various choices depending on our interest.
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October 04, 2021, 04:50:50 PM
I believe whether skill-based it is all the game of chance and one should not think she or he is skilled enough not to loose money in playing gambling. All gambling is a game of chance in my opinion and the analysis provided above by op may just be theatrical even crypto currency trading that is purely skill-based in some situation maybe seen as a game of chance.

Besides the chance, its must that at least one should have enough knowledge in playing the game to avoid loosing lots of amount. Yes, chance do play an important role, however unless and until you are aware of what you playing and how you playing it, there are times, we may loose the chance to win. So chance or luck alone, wont help. It will often lead to loose more. So knowledge on what we are playing will support us to win the game.
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October 04, 2021, 04:28:07 PM
I definitely prefer skill based.

It takes a while to master but once you do you can maximise the odds of winning or at least not losing.

For example, BJ has a house edge of 0.5% if you play perfect basic strategy or even a positive EV if you know how to count cards. Compare this to American roulette which has a house edge of 5+%.

I'd say Poker is best if you're into Skill based gambling.
Also, there are this hand sign game where u go player vs player and select a hand from Rock, Paper, or Scissor and the best one wins, I could be totally random but if you can read the opponent correctly after a few games then it's quite skilled to win

They say poker is 100% game of skill in the long run, but since "in the long" is not defined, it could mean hundreds of years and a bankroll of billions USD. So, in reality, I wouldn't call poker a game of pure skill, but I wouldn't go so far to say that luck has 80% and skill has 20%, like some poker players are saying. Imo, the truth is somewhere in the middle: 60% skill, and 40% luck.

I think poker is a game of luck due to the odds of the cards you receive and the pool where you pair them.

What separates poker from almost all of the card games is that- there is an element of skill in terms of predicting and/or speculating the cards of other players that would render you to either fight or pass on the current round. Almost all players rely on external factors in knowing if a person is bluffing or not- while players like Negraneu have this gifted natural talent of speculating.
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October 04, 2021, 04:27:13 PM
I believe whether skill-based it is all the game of chance and one should not think she or he is skilled enough not to loose money in playing gambling. All gambling is a game of chance in my opinion and the analysis provided above by op may just be theatrical even crypto currency trading that is purely skill-based in some situation maybe seen as a game of chance.
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October 04, 2021, 03:57:49 PM

Actually both are dangerous (skilled-based and luck-based), the only way to minimize or manage the risk is if you gamble responsibly, no one would survive if they are no responsible as in gambling, you can easily loss all your money and even the money that you are not suppose to gamble.
This is something that all gamblers need to be aware of.
but sometimes things like this are only owned by a small number of gamblers, because basically when they have plunged into gambling, I don't think some people will think about it anymore, because what they think is the ambition to win gambling.
Although it sounds very easy when you say you have to be a wise person and not be provoked by greed, it is actually a very difficult thing to do.
legendary
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October 04, 2021, 03:24:38 PM
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As we are now under community quarantine because of this pandemic virus, we tend to play online games to lessen the boredom we feel at our home, so I wanna know your preference on choosing what gamble to play.

There are two types of gambling for me, the skill-based and the chance-based.
1. Skill-based - these are gambling that requires our skills and techniques for us to win, such as playing poker, betting on races, and playing blackjack but the odds of winning are still different for people and it is always in favor of the owner of the gambling.
Poker
Blackjack
Pai Gow
Texas Shootout
Horse Race Betting
Sports Betting
2. Chance-based - these are gambling that you will only wait for the result, you don't need to do something or to think so deep for you to win because all of you have an equal chance of winning such as roulette, lottery, and other gaming machines.
Casino games:

Slot machines
Progressive bonuses
Bingo
Roulette
Sic Bo
Baccarat

Lottery products:
50/50 raffles
Pull-tabs
Scratch’n win tickets
6/49
BC/49
Lotto Max
Keno
Pacific Hold’em
Source: https://www.bcresponsiblegambling.ca/understanding-gambling/types-gambling

For me, I will choose the skill-based gambling because I am not hoping for the luck of life, I want to take action to make my life great. It is still better to think logically and analytically at any time.

But if you are only a beginner, I think the chance-based gambling would be suitable for you, but do not stick only on that, you should improve yourself, acquire skills and knowledge through experience so you will be able to play skill-based gambling soon.

If you are going too define it as skill based (and I'm not sure it is exactly) then you should supplement Horse-racing for all sports betting. If your suggestion is that somebody is able to get an advantage over "the house" in one sport, thereby beating all the statistical analysis that these gambling companies have access to, then it should not be limited to horses. In fact, I would say that horse racing is a long stretch more unpredictable than football betting for example - the favorites often lose or come in a random position. If horse racing is only to be included, why would you ignore greyhound racing? Which is pretty much identical in that you are make predictions on the performance of an animal.
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October 04, 2021, 02:13:53 PM
What I do when playing gambling, I always apply my skills, even though it's 70% luck but at least we shouldn't be careless in gambling but with tactics it is necessary.
If you're careless enough and you allow yourself to be freely losing without doing anything to defend with your money, you're just good as just giving it to the house.
The reason why we're gambling is for different reasons and you have to be serious in all manner whether you do it for fun as it's attached to it and when you lose, you'll just have to think of it that you're enjoying as a relief.
Being careless also means that you don't care about your money and it's really just pure entertainment for you but if you're careless enough in gambling, then the chance of losing a lot of money will be lessened. The reason why we are playing gambling should not be all about getting profits and such, it should be for the sake of enjoyment but we can't really disregard the fact that we can double our money in an instant that's why we are gambling, even if we apply our skills, it's not guaranteed for a sure win., luck still prevails.
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October 04, 2021, 01:43:25 PM
What I do when playing gambling, I always apply my skills, even though it's 70% luck but at least we shouldn't be careless in gambling but with tactics it is necessary.
If you're careless enough and you allow yourself to be freely losing without doing anything to defend with your money, you're just good as just giving it to the house.
The reason why we're gambling is for different reasons and you have to be serious in all manner whether you do it for fun as it's attached to it and when you lose, you'll just have to think of it that you're enjoying as a relief.
I enjoy gambling games but not being careless and I always do what I can to just keep the money so I don't lose big, but in reality it's for fun.
But this different and permanent way will stick with me about gambling, but throughout my travels on gambling forums I have understood a little about how skill-based it really is and we still need it in every game.
When there is an opportunity it must be distinguished because all will know in every gambling there must be a big opportunity.
Even if it's not her full hope.
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October 04, 2021, 01:36:02 PM
What I do when playing gambling, I always apply my skills, even though it's 70% luck but at least we shouldn't be careless in gambling but with tactics it is necessary.
If you're careless enough and you allow yourself to be freely losing without doing anything to defend with your money, you're just good as just giving it to the house.
The reason why we're gambling is for different reasons and you have to be serious in all manner whether you do it for fun as it's attached to it and when you lose, you'll just have to think of it that you're enjoying as a relief.
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October 04, 2021, 12:27:30 PM
They use their knowledge to choose the right team/player/things to bet so they call skill-based gambling games. Like sports betting, they use their analysis to determine which team or player has a big chance to beat their opponent and win. But those gamblers need to know that all will depend on their luck because we do not know what will happen in the middle of the match. The position can replace and the opponent can push their favorite team or player until he surrenders.
I know in gambling games it is luck if you win, but for them of course that skill is really needed to keep win and also have a good chance. I always do skills by looking at all the details beforehand before I bet on the team that will be bet on, therefore skills and opportunities are the same that must be combined in gambling.

What I do when playing gambling, I always apply my skills, even though it's 70% luck but at least we shouldn't be careless in gambling but with tactics it is necessary.
legendary
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October 04, 2021, 11:47:29 AM
For me, I will choose the skill-based gambling because I am not hoping for the luck of life, I want to take action to make my life great. It is still better to think logically and analytically at any time.

But if you are only a beginner, I think the chance-based gambling would be suitable for you, but do not stick only on that, you should improve yourself, acquire skills and knowledge through experience so you will be able to play skill-based gambling soon.

Since I dont great in any skill-based gambling games, I just play with my luck like dice and slot machine games. For an example dice, when I play the game I did it with auto feature which make me can play in many different sites and ofc I can leave it for some minutes instead when I played skill-based games.
Each person is going to have their own likes and dislikes when it comes to the games they are attracted to, personally I prefer skill based games even if I am not great at them either, the fact that you have to think about each one of your moves makes the game more meaningful to me compared to the alternative that I have on playing luck based games in which the only thing you need to do is to make a click and that is more than enough for you to win or lose.
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October 04, 2021, 05:57:14 AM
Some people will prefer to select skilled-based gambling games as they know more about them than other gambling games. Besides that, they think they will have many chances to win on that skill-based because they already know how to do with the games and try to win. At least, if they can learn more details about the game from many lessons, they can increase their chances to win. But we know that both skilled-based and chances-based have a risk and we should know to prevent the big risk.
Honestly, there's no such thing as "skill-based" gambling games, it's still dependent on your luck imo. If they were looking for something they can win by having more knowledge about it, gambling isn't the game for them. Yes, I know what skill-based gambling games are, but those are still called "gambling" games, see my point? They might just be better off playing games like Hearthstone and participating in tournaments and the like.
They use their knowledge to choose the right team/player/things to bet so they call skill-based gambling games. Like sports betting, they use their analysis to determine which team or player has a big chance to beat their opponent and win. But those gamblers need to know that all will depend on their luck because we do not know what will happen in the middle of the match. The position can replace and the opponent can push their favorite team or player until he surrenders.
legendary
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October 04, 2021, 05:18:25 AM
I definitely prefer skill based.

It takes a while to master but once you do you can maximise the odds of winning or at least not losing.

For example, BJ has a house edge of 0.5% if you play perfect basic strategy or even a positive EV if you know how to count cards. Compare this to American roulette which has a house edge of 5+%.

I'd say Poker is best if you're into Skill based gambling.
Also, there are this hand sign game where u go player vs player and select a hand from Rock, Paper, or Scissor and the best one wins, I could be totally random but if you can read the opponent correctly after a few games then it's quite skilled to win

They say poker is 100% game of skill in the long run, but since "in the long" is not defined, it could mean hundreds of years and a bankroll of billions USD. So, in reality, I wouldn't call poker a game of pure skill, but I wouldn't go so far to say that luck has 80% and skill has 20%, like some poker players are saying. Imo, the truth is somewhere in the middle: 60% skill, and 40% luck.
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October 04, 2021, 05:16:35 AM
Gambling is not an instant way to get rich, but gambling can be your instant way to get poor because of losing money.
It really can happen if the gambler has no good self-control and use inappropriate way in gambling. That's why a gambler must be aware of the risks in gambling and choose the right way to avoid huge losses + addictions. In this matter, both skill-based and chance-based games have the same risks leading people to get poor instantly. If someone is too obsessed with being rich through gambling, he probably ends up losing all money and be stressed. In reality, I have seen many gamblers who ended with bad stories.
A gambler who is often playing gambling can have a big obsession to win much money from gambling. But that can prevent by having control over himself to prevent his mind from thinking about his obsession. Self-control will indeed be a must-have for every gambler to prevent anything from becoming worse without controlling it. As long as he does not lose control over himself, he will be okay playing gambling and not worry about losing big money because he will have a chance to prevent that thing happens.
it is always given that Self control and having direction in gambling will save everyone from drowning .

also know your limit , put specific amount each time you gamble and never exceed from that.

also put time frame each playing , in case that you still not growing consider that this is not your day and try next time
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October 04, 2021, 05:08:34 AM
Gambling is not an instant way to get rich, but gambling can be your instant way to get poor because of losing money.
It really can happen if the gambler has no good self-control and use inappropriate way in gambling. That's why a gambler must be aware of the risks in gambling and choose the right way to avoid huge losses + addictions. In this matter, both skill-based and chance-based games have the same risks leading people to get poor instantly. If someone is too obsessed with being rich through gambling, he probably ends up losing all money and be stressed. In reality, I have seen many gamblers who ended with bad stories.



Games in which your winnings depend on your skills are safer for your psyche.  Why are gambling dangerous?  They lead to the development of learned helplessness. 

Acquired helplessness is a state in which a person believes that nothing depends on his actions.  This applies not only to the game itself.  In games, a person masters behavior strategies that he uses in real life.  Learned helplessness can negatively affect all areas of human life. 

It's another matter if gambling is based on human skills.  The player can improve himself and achieve success in gambling. 

This strategy is very useful in all spheres of human life.

Actually both are dangerous (skilled-based and luck-based), the only way to minimize or manage the risk is if you gamble responsibly, no one would survive if they are no responsible as in gambling, you can easily loss all your money and even the money that you are not suppose to gamble.
legendary
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October 04, 2021, 03:47:59 AM
Gambling is not an instant way to get rich, but gambling can be your instant way to get poor because of losing money.
It really can happen if the gambler has no good self-control and use inappropriate way in gambling. That's why a gambler must be aware of the risks in gambling and choose the right way to avoid huge losses + addictions. In this matter, both skill-based and chance-based games have the same risks leading people to get poor instantly. If someone is too obsessed with being rich through gambling, he probably ends up losing all money and be stressed. In reality, I have seen many gamblers who ended with bad stories.



Games in which your winnings depend on your skills are safer for your psyche.  Why are gambling dangerous?  They lead to the development of learned helplessness. 

Acquired helplessness is a state in which a person believes that nothing depends on his actions.  This applies not only to the game itself.  In games, a person masters behavior strategies that he uses in real life.  Learned helplessness can negatively affect all areas of human life. 

It's another matter if gambling is based on human skills.  The player can improve himself and achieve success in gambling. 

This strategy is very useful in all spheres of human life.
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October 04, 2021, 03:31:05 AM
Gambling is not an instant way to get rich, but gambling can be your instant way to get poor because of losing money.
It really can happen if the gambler has no good self-control and use inappropriate way in gambling. That's why a gambler must be aware of the risks in gambling and choose the right way to avoid huge losses + addictions. In this matter, both skill-based and chance-based games have the same risks leading people to get poor instantly. If someone is too obsessed with being rich through gambling, he probably ends up losing all money and be stressed. In reality, I have seen many gamblers who ended with bad stories.
A gambler who is often playing gambling can have a big obsession to win much money from gambling. But that can prevent by having control over himself to prevent his mind from thinking about his obsession. Self-control will indeed be a must-have for every gambler to prevent anything from becoming worse without controlling it. As long as he does not lose control over himself, he will be okay playing gambling and not worry about losing big money because he will have a chance to prevent that thing happens.
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October 03, 2021, 10:12:37 PM
There is that old joke about gambling to just illustrate this.There was a king and had a son who started drinking alcohol and the people near the king told him about his son,the king said no problem.The son then started going with women,prostitutes and the king also said there is no problem.When the son started to gamble the king said,stop him immediately as he is going to destroy us all.

This joke illustrates perfectly that gambling does not look at who you are and most people who do not have a great self control can easily fall under addiction from gambling.
Sad thing is it isn't even a joke imo, what the king said was perfectly reasonable, it WILL destroy them. Gambling is like a plague, it doesn't just damage one person, it damages everything around that person slowly but surely.
Some people will prefer to select skilled-based gambling games as they know more about them than other gambling games. Besides that, they think they will have many chances to win on that skill-based because they already know how to do with the games and try to win. At least, if they can learn more details about the game from many lessons, they can increase their chances to win. But we know that both skilled-based and chances-based have a risk and we should know to prevent the big risk.
Honestly, there's no such thing as "skill-based" gambling games, it's still dependent on your luck imo. If they were looking for something they can win by having more knowledge about it, gambling isn't the game for them. Yes, I know what skill-based gambling games are, but those are still called "gambling" games, see my point? They might just be better off playing games like Hearthstone and participating in tournaments and the like.
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October 03, 2021, 08:50:03 PM
For me all gambling games were all risky whether it's skill-based or chance-based, the difference between skill-based and chance-based is you will not see the win probability in skill-based and in chance-based you can see but both are just the same but I think sports betting is much popular but very prone to fix games or cheating.
Op didn't in any way of his submission talk about risk or not risk in his submission and I wonder why the main point of your response here center on how both the chance based is risky and the skill-based is risky for we all that gambling generally is risky. You should know that nothing in general is free of risk and is out that risky situation that do making a living and not taking risk is the most risky decision.

There is that old joke about gambling to just illustrate this.There was a king and had a son who started drinking alcohol and the people near the king told him about his son,the king said no problem.The son then started going with women,prostitutes and the king also said there is no problem.When the son started to gamble the king said,stop him immediately as he is going to destroy us all.

This joke illustrates perfectly that gambling does not look at who you are and most people who do not have a great self control can easily fall under addiction from gambling.
I love you illustration with that particular story for have head it before but the truth of the matter is that if the make good return from playing gambling they will all benefits from it. We should have it at the back of our mind that odd of the game is always against the players but be that as it may, good numbers of people are still making money from playing gambling.
legendary
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October 03, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
I am not pro gambler but for me it depends upon the game you're playing. If I am playing cards tongits, I must manage my card well because it will not always be a good card ahead. My mother plays lotto loke keno and swertres, she has some analizations but failed most of the time. But for me playing lotto is more on luck because we cannot really predict it like dice results. All in all we should still enjoy when we are playing. Choosing what to play and where we think we are good at is also important.
I don't know all your philippine games but you're right at lotto and keno you can not predict the results as dice games but at least you know your exact chances of winning unlike card games and other skill based games. Then you know what you are paying for.
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