Topic: GAMBLING: Skill-based vs. Chance-based - page 7. (Read 2396 times)

Agree with this because most professional gamblers have skills and a strategy, which is why they win, and luck is also present, which strikes at any time. Still when talking to gambling it is not enough to have skill or strategy this could boost your winning but when the unlucky hits you whether what you do you could be losing at all but if you do have strategy you can have edge from winning it compare to those who don't have

In fact, it is not entirely clear to me why these points are attributed to luck:
2: "Luck From Motion" - It is obvious that the one who acts will always get more chances from life than the one who does nothing, which means that his "gain" will be greater.
3: "Luck In Preparation" - a prepared chess player is always more "lucky" than a less prepared one, this is obvious.
4: "Luck Unique To You" - it is natural that if you are a unique expert in any field, then your knowledge will be highly appreciated by the market (and maybe even higher due to the lack of competitors).
In general, I agree with you and I also try to have such luck accompany me in my life.

yes, for sure!
we even have some popular sayings like "fortune favors the bold"
and in Brazil some say that when you're lucky on games/gambling you may have no luck in love, and the opposite too (luck in love, no luck in games/gambling)
hahaha, I like this kind of knowledge that is disperse around society... cool to think about it and how it build culture

You are right in what you say, I do not know if you have tried playing with the slots in this case, if bets of 0.2USD are made it is very likely that in any of the slots that stake.com has you can find a good multiplier and leave with excellent profit, and precisely in my case when I play the slots when I have that touch of luck sometimes I recover or even remain neutral and it helps me to play another game.

In the case of Poker and Black Jack it could be said that poker does require skill, in the case of Black Jack there are some technical arguments that serve, such as card counting and if the cards to play are with two masses that everything changes but they exist strategies to follow. You are right in what you say, I do not know if you have tried playing with the slots in this case, if bets of 0.2USD are made it is very likely that in any of the slots that stake.com has you can find a good multiplier and leave with excellent profit, and precisely in my case when I play the slots when I have that touch of luck sometimes I recover or even remain neutral and it helps me to play another game.

In the case of Poker and Black Jack it could be said that poker does require skill, in the case of Black Jack there are some technical arguments that serve, such as card counting and if the cards to play are with two masses that everything changes but they exist strategies to follow.

Exactly what I was saying, it's a combination of skills and statistics, I remembered a line in one of the movie that I watch, it says there that it's not enough that you have the skill but you need to also have luck as well.

That's what I'm talking about, guys. Find several reputable gambling sites(using this forum is your best bet, imo), and play on those sites re;axed and without second thoughts which might ruin your gambling experience. Of course you can verify your bets from time to time if it brings more fun to the game, but only for that reason.

encouraged by ? not by the owners i believe but maybe the users around us once we ask for tips on how to get good at gambling .
 if you dont have a money its not possible to play right away especially if the gambling site dont have a faucet , dont allow zero bets or any kinds to play the game without a balance .

not really , what if your a beginner ?
 but thier true purpose can be to try the game and some can find happiness if they cant afford gambling with real money .

Demo versions helps you a lot to learn and practice your skills. It is possible to become good players with the demo version especially if we are talking about online gambling (poker). Psychology and acting wont work in online poker as you are playing other players face to face, you do not know how your player's act and vice versa.

Demo versions of gambling only allow you to master the basics of gambling.

It's impossible to become a great player by playing the demo version of the game.

This is true if the game is based on the player's skill and not just luck.

I'm talking about famous games like poker and blackjack. In order to become an excellent poker and blackjack player you need to have a wide range of skills.

For example, you need to be fluent in psychology and acting. You need to develop math skills. You also need to train short-term memory.

Maybe we have different views about luck but I agree with the article you gave to us. Yes, the biggest luck could be blind luck as we do not know when that luck will come. Many of us have luck because of preparation, motion, and uniqueness, which helps us win the gambling games. But I think luck can come to us in other things, not just in gambling games so it is better to use that luck that we get from other things for our benefit.

As for skills, I can tell you the following: quite often we are encouraged to use demo versions of games or trading to develop skills.  For example, in the forex market. 
So I responsibly inform you that no demo versions will allow your skills to develop, but will only aggravate irresponsible behavior.  Because as soon as you start playing a real game for real money, everything will be different at once.  Demo versions serve to make you have the euphoria that you are a professional.  And then you will lose your money much faster. 
It's better to play right away than to learn in the demo.

We have so many ways to find information's regarding on what we want to do and those discussion made by people who have same interest with you is really helpful since we can get an idea to them to learn something from their experience so that it will not cost us any huge damage if we try it out for ourselves and also for sure those past experiences made by other gambler will be a good basis to not commit same mistake they do and execute better strategy to increase the chance to win on the bets we made.

That's what we said "learning from mistakes". But that doesn't mean we must do mistakes first to understand it, we can learn from others' mistakes or other stories. Also, there are already many sources that telling us how bad the impacts are if we gamble carelessly. So, there are many other ways to understand the risk of gambling, it is not a must to do mistakes to build deep understanding & good awareness.

yes, makes sense, I was just playing the contrarian a bit
not sure what my opinions are on luck/no luck
when it comes to blind luck

I really prefer to organize my life in a way the I have luck type 2, 3 and 4 more often, and if type 1 comes, well, I won't deny it.

This is not really accurate, regardless of who you are playing against as the name implies a skill-based game is one where you skill has an effect on the outcome of the game itself regardless of how much luck its inherent to the game, for example poker and blackjack are two examples of skill-based games in which your skill has a great effect on whether or not you can win but the main difference is that in the case of poker you are playing against other people while in the case of blackjack you are actually playing against the house.

I think that nowadays big wins like Jackpot are most likely called luck, usually this is a huge amount compared to the average player's spending on gambling. And unluck is too long a series of losses with good chances (even 50/50), for example, if a person from time to time bets on his favorite team and after that it always loses, then he calls himself unlucky.

what if luck is just randomness interpreted in a biased way by us?
also, as the ocean, sometimes the tide is high and sometimes is not

I see luck like that, so even  @gagux123 can get luck at some point

related:
https://www.wealest.com/articles/four-kinds-of-luck

Maybe you are not lucky in gambling but I am sure you are lucky in other things. No need to feel sad if you are not lucky in gambling because gambling is just for fun and as long as you can enjoy your free time, that will not be a problem but you still need to manage your money. I do not have big luck in gambling because it is not easy to have control when playing the game. But I can still enjoy the game so maybe we do not have to think about winning and only search for fun.

The point is that it all depends on luck or is driven by each other's luck. Although it is true that sometimes skill can trigger winning, but still in general, everything that smells of gambling is driven by luck. It's just that the difference between the two is in the game system and what is prepared to trigger our luck.

You are right there. I even pointed that gamblers will just learn if they will lose big. That's the moment they will realize that something not right is happening and that will be the gateway for them to understand what's going in. It also has a good result as while gamblers are continuously losing, they will be more responsible to avoid it and will try to minimize their losses as best as they can. That's where being a responsible gambler starts.