Gambling: The Seven Deadly Sins - page 2.

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Even if we don't correlate Gambling with religion belief or laws. OP's point about gambling with Seven Deadly Sin is accurate since many gamblers eventually will experience those symptoms or think like that.
But IMO, laws in some country shouldn't forbid adult (18 years old or older) to gamble and use religion is weak argument against gambling/gambling bad effects.

I agree. Every adult has the right to decide what moral rules to follow upon condition that nobody gets hurt by his/her actions. I think it would be better if in those countries where gambling is prohibited they were paying more attention to awareness-raising activities rather than to enforcing some rules. It's a known fact that people sill gamble a lot in the places where it is prohibited only the process takes the form of more sinister appearance there. Same goes for prostitution and soft recreational drugs. Those things should be regulated by the state, but not forbidden.

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Quote from: pixie85 on April 29, 2018, 05:30:35 PM

I don't really care about the things that religions tell us to do or not to do. They are just a set of rules, like the law, but unlike the law you're choosing to obey them and aren't forced to do so. I'm not religious and I don't follow their rules. I have my own, they're called ethics. Gambling is completely fine according to those rules.

Its your choice what you want to do in life and definitely your own choice if you want to gamble or not. However there is something called experience and knowledge about things - those who have gambled know that in the long run gambling only leads to profit for the house and not the player. Mainly these people are the ones who advice other novice/less experienced people about the bad effects of gambling.

You dont need to think of this as religious stuff. There are atheists too and then there are people who are addicted gamblers and those who detest gambling.

Just because we have the freedom to do whatever we want to rather we can do whatever we like to does not mean everything is right. There are people who get affected by our actions because we all have bonds and relations. These relations suffer whenever a mistake is made. Gambling is not only going to hurt gambler but his close ones too but if someone is okay with that, its mean of him.

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Quote from: nebiki on April 28, 2018, 01:36:46 AM

because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

Why do you care about religion it nothing but all a business and you think people in your religion don't gamble I'm sure there will be several people who gamble even when it isn't allowed in gambling

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Quote from: Aikidoka on April 30, 2018, 04:08:04 PM

Guys, my thread is not about the effects of gambling... It is about the seven deadly sins which I consider to be part of the gambler. Plus, religion has nothing to do with the seven deadly sins. And speaking of religion, especially Islam, it does not forbid gambling because of the sins, but simply because you need to make efforts to gain money, not just take people's money with zero efforts. That is from the perspective of Islam.

Well now that i think about it, it does indeed make sense, all the deadly sins are in fact a part of an addicted gambler's personality, Greed,Pride, Envy, Wrath, Gluttony Sloth, and most of all Lust, the desire for money and power is what drives a gambler the most, and they all explain the reason behind an addicted gambler's actions and behaviors.

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Quote from: richkellj on May 03, 2018, 07:32:08 AM

Once I ask someone who gambles to quit that game for the sake of his family, he start abusing me. He thinks I am more interested in his family than him but I was really shocked at him. The way he was praising gambling and continuously claiming of gambling as best source of income, I was really shocked and astonished.

There will be no wonder with his behavior and imaginations. Most addicted gamblers do not fulfill their family responsibilities which makes them thinking like that. Until they themselves realize the actual dangers and sins of gambling, there will be no possibilities for them to come out from gambling.

The sad part is, when they are realizing, probably they might have nothing left. It means sometime their family members also would have left them as they do fail in each and every aspects of normal human being. Gambling is good when it is within some limits. But most gamblers starts that way but over time, they do increase their limits and finally get addicted. Once addicted their life starts ruining.

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Quote from: Happiest on April 28, 2018, 05:12:20 AM

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

The reason why some religions prohibit gambling is because they are aware of the bad effects of gambling what it can lead the person to do - potentially harmful things to their family. Religious leaders dont want the people to go to the wrong track and hence they do so.

However if you stop a person from doing something their curiosity will rise and thus this often leads to people daring to gamble. What should be done is people educated properly about the bad effects and hope that it has some effect on their minds.

I agree with the point that you made and relations because it is definitely one of the reasons why People help other people to stop gambling and that’s the outcome that they are going to get if they get addicted. It’s better to stop the cause then have a remedy when it has already started. I agree that properly educated people have better ways to cope up with the changes if ever but Sometimes it doesn’t work.

The dilemma is, no one is ready to listen to you. Once I ask someone who gambles to quit that game for the sake of his family, he start abusing me. He thinks I am more interested in his family than him but I was really shocked at him. The way he was praising gambling and continuously claiming of gambling as best source of income, I was really shocked and astonished.

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You said it right dude. That is why in some religions gambling is considered a sin. Gambling it addicted can also lead to thief, and lies. If they are too addicted and they ran out of resources but still want to continue so the tendency is they will steal other people’s money. They will also lie and invent stories just to get people’s sympathy and get money.

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Guys, my thread is not about the effects of gambling... It is about the seven deadly sins which I consider to be part of the gambler. Plus, religion has nothing to do with the seven deadly sins. And speaking of religion, especially Islam, it does not forbid gambling because of the sins, but simply because you need to make efforts to gain money, not just take people's money with zero efforts. That is from the perspective of Islam.

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Quote from: TheKeyLongThumbI on April 30, 2018, 03:26:08 AM

Gambling is not all about sinning. It depends on the person on how they treat it. For me, it's an entertainment where winning is just a bonus. You just test on how lucky you are or you just want to kill time.

There are other forms of entertainment without involving money. Killing time? That's the lamest excuses if you are going to gamble. In my view, the argument of gambling is a sin as per religion can be trace back in the Bible. However, as a human being we still have a choice to make, and even it is against your religion, if you see no problem gambling then I don't consider it committing a sin.

It's up to us, we know what's the effect of gambling, but if you still chooses to do so then its your fault. But please stop with the gambling is a sin because of religion argument here.

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Quote from: pixie85 on April 29, 2018, 05:30:35 PM

I don't really care about the things that religions tell us to do or not to do. They are just a set of rules, like the law, but unlike the law you're choosing to obey them and aren't forced to do so. I'm not religious and I don't follow their rules. I have my own, they're called ethics. Gambling is completely fine according to those rules.

Its your choice what you want to do in life and definitely your own choice if you want to gamble or not. However there is something called experience and knowledge about things - those who have gambled know that in the long run gambling only leads to profit for the house and not the player. Mainly these people are the ones who advice other novice/less experienced people about the bad effects of gambling.

You dont need to think of this as religious stuff. There are atheists too and then there are people who are addicted gamblers and those who detest gambling.

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I agree with you, a lot of people say it's a sin. But I think everything that is related to money is a sin. Think about trading and investing? Same there: greed and wrath. And even when one is dealing with money in a daily life he faces the same problems. The only way out is just not to take money that seriously and consider it as a game.

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Gambling is not all about sinning. It depends on the person on how they treat it. For me, it's an entertainment where winning is just a bonus. You just test on how lucky you are or you just want to kill time.

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Personal preference is what gambling is all about.
When it comes down to it.
You are the one wagering with your money not somebody elses so you are taking your destiny in your own hands and should not blame it on sins or fictional mumbo jumbo.

I do not know why people are bring religion into this conversation because gambling should not have anything to do with it. Roll Eyes

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I don't really care about the things that religions tell us to do or not to do. They are just a set of rules, like the law, but unlike the law you're choosing to obey them and aren't forced to do so. I'm not religious and I don't follow their rules. I have my own, they're called ethics. Gambling is completely fine according to those rules.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on April 29, 2018, 12:43:36 PM

Quote from: Happiest on April 28, 2018, 05:12:20 AM

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

The reason why some religions prohibit gambling is because they are aware of the bad effects of gambling what it can lead the person to do - potentially harmful things to their family. Religious leaders dont want the people to go to the wrong track and hence they do so.

However if you stop a person from doing something their curiosity will rise and thus this often leads to people daring to gamble. What should be done is people educated properly about the bad effects and hope that it has some effect on their minds.

I agree with the point that you made and relations because it is definitely one of the reasons why People help other people to stop gambling and that’s the outcome that they are going to get if they get addicted. It’s better to stop the cause then have a remedy when it has already started. I agree that properly educated people have better ways to cope up with the changes if ever but Sometimes it doesn’t work.

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Quote from: Happiest on April 28, 2018, 05:12:20 AM

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

The reason why some religions prohibit gambling is because they are aware of the bad effects of gambling what it can lead the person to do - potentially harmful things to their family. Religious leaders dont want the people to go to the wrong track and hence they do so.

However if you stop a person from doing something their curiosity will rise and thus this often leads to people daring to gamble. What should be done is people educated properly about the bad effects and hope that it has some effect on their minds.

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Quote from: yojodojo21 on April 18, 2018, 04:56:57 AM

Gambling is part of life, but if you gamble Bitcoin means you want to take the risk it's because gambling can give you two option. Be poor or be rich. Waste your money in gambling without even thinking your needs then your done, but gambling with wise decision then your okay with it. We cannot just conclude what gamblers feel, it always depends to what we want to do. Don't gamble with shitcoins always gamble with pure one.

Yeah, we certainly cannot conclude what gamblers feel since everyone will certainly know what makes them feel right or not, however, greed is the worst of all the sins of every gambler. So many people who have been gambling today and ended up turning into addicts ended up doing so as a result of their greedy nature. Gambling finds a way to tap into some part of your thoughts and if you allow it to take full control based on how you perceive it, then, you are done for.

Regardless of whatever reason that is, gambling ultimately results to someone being poor or rich mentally/financially. Most of the gamblers gamble due to the hope that they are clinging to, meaning they view it as a way of alleviating their financial struggle by relying on an unpredictable means of acquiring money. Gambling creates this illusion wherein an individual is stuck on an endless loop, thinking that they can lift themselves up from their current position to a better position financially. But in the end, it only makes their situation worse, not just financially but also spiritually and mentally.

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Quote from: nebiki on April 28, 2018, 01:36:46 AM

because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

I agree. Relying your financial status on an unpredictable outcome would only result to an individual losing more and making his situation worse. If one is stuck on this problem but he/she thinks that they can lift themselves out from this situation, then there is this conundrum that is present.

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Quote from: nebiki on April 28, 2018, 01:36:46 AM

because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

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Quote from: nebiki on April 28, 2018, 01:36:46 AM

because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

True it is forbidden by religion and true that its better to say no to a game of chance than suffer the consequences. But "job"?? Gambling is not a job. Its a mode of entertainment and for some it is a method to make some extra cash. You should never look into gambling as a way of earning because it is not so. The casino owners are the ones who are running the business and mind you its a very profitable one.

So if people enter gambling thinking it to be a source of income then they are doomed for sure.

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because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

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