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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

That is why a gambler has to be determined with strong emotional balance so that they don't over step in their financial balance. Always know and determine how many percentage of your bankroll you want to gamble with.

You won't be shocked with the casinos trying to market themselves, it is business enterprise and they will try to make you believe that is just how easy it is to make profit with it. In showbiz, you can be shown anything just as you want to see it but most times it is imagination and not realistic. Streamers are in the business with casinos to pull customer base, it is a competition, and to win fan base the more popular you are . Streamers shouldn't change the mind of a gambler on where you want to gamble and how much you want to stake also.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

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Oh it can be. That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable for most people though. Trust, assumptions and whatnot are things you think about AFTER you watch. Like let's be real here, more often than not it's a LOT better to watch someone win than someone lose. The exception is when the streamer is goofy enough to add some punishments when he loses, but casino streamers don't do that no.

And yes it's not normal. And even if it was, the money used wasn't exactly from the streamer, it was 100% from the casino. And no it doesn't really affect my judgement on casinos. I play on where I want to play anyway.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Many of these streamers don't even use a real game account. I believe that most sponsored streams involve a test account in an environment that looks like the same one used by players in real matches, but which is purposely manipulated to increase the streamers' chances of winning and thus encourage other people to play too, believing that it is easy to make money.

I don't doubt that it is possible to get one or more consecutive jackpots in a short time of playing. Sometimes we find lucky players, but the amount of luck we see in these streams is something that is really far from the real scenario of players.

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Often I find streamers who do online gambling live and indeed there are wins that they get, even I have found a streamer who has very little capital but he can get such a big win, I was made doubtful by something like this, and thought that the streamer was indeed working with a casino whose goal was to promote the casino by showing how easy it is to win, besides that visitors can register via the link that has been provided.
I'm not so sure about how easy it is to win, but that is the real look of gambling because I myself have a different view from the real and demo-based gambling look and what they play is gambling with a real look, but even so I still doubt that winning is easy to get so I think it's because they work with the casino so they can win so easily that it can even be ascertained that winning has become a definite thing when in fact the opposite is true.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

To see so many winnings achieved by the same streamers in way they are making consistent profit on long run isn't genuine. Or they are omitting the losses from the audience, or they are playing with fake money given by the casino. Personally, to sponsor such streamers this way isn't something I like to see casinos doing. There must be more transparent and fairer means to promote a casino service online, without luring the audience into believing a situation which doesn't happen in practice.

The point is that we are surrounded by misleading propagandas regard casinos, be it through streamers or through TV ads. Those who don't do their own research tend to be heavily manipulated by celebrities, and as consequence will end losing money trying to repeat strategical patterns which don't even exist.

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I wouldn't rely on sponsored streams alone to gauge a casino's reputation, you're judging too quickly if you're relying on someone's stream. It's always better to research the sites yourself or at least spend a few minutes looking up the background of these casinos.

From the streamers I used to watch, the only unrealistic part is their bankroll, which I don't mind knowing they're mostly sponsored by the casino they're using on stream.

With the limitless bankroll of these streamers, i'd say winning with big multipliers or jackpots is normal because they could've had one of the worst sessions the other day, and now they're due to win some of it back.

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It is about the promotions that the casinos they are affiliated with shows on how good it is to gamble inside their website. If there are gambling streamers that are legitimate and they're winning jackpots, I think only some of them are for real because the majority of them have that account likely a demo or modified ones that's set for them to win jackpots. It's the same as advertising techniques from most of the products that we see on TV ads and then after buying them, they're not as good as advertised.

Entertainment is what these streamers are up for. It's entertaining to watch someone won big money in the stream that they do and then how they are reacting with it. I do not believe those streamers that are known to always sponsored by the casinos. But that doesn't mean that all of them are because there are still a few remaining of them that are genuine with their streams and always discloses that they're sponsored or not.

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I watch a few streamers, made a thread about them last week. They don't always win, not even close. Yes they are given sponsored money to play with, but there are conditions they must meet before being able to cashout. Each streamers deal is different. Some might have to wager x times before being able to cashout, some have a deal where they get money to stream on and are paid per hour nothing to do with the balance they're given to stream with, some are given a balance to stream with and can do whatever they want as long as they stream so long per stream. The point is, every deal is different.

Normal streamers, not your big guys like rosh, train, xposed, adin ross, systemz, or any other mega streamer, do not always win. People just think they do because they have a balance and get a big win now n then. They're putting tons of money through a slot normally, so it's going to hit eventually.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Depends on what type of streamers you're watching, usually there are sponsored gambling streamers where they play on a different server like demo server that has better chances of winning so that they'll be able to promote the casino better and attract more users like you and your friend. There's also paid streamers who chose to play the platform using real live servers but still win big but if you watch them longer, you'll see them on a losing streak more often but since the have a high bankroll and doesn't bet too much, they tend to keep their bankroll intact with minimal loses.

Anyways, it may also just be a coincidence that you've watched the streamer on good play but maybe if stayed and watch more, you'll see them lose more than winning, if not, it is most likely that they are sponsored streamer with better chances.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 20, 2024, 06:37:45 PM

Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Well, most of us don't know how they do it, but we all know that these streamers are just promoting the casino (not unless, if they don't mention or show which casino they're playing), so most likely the casino have altered the flow of the streamer's game showing us more wins, which can be very different when we're the ones whos playing.
Therefore, your conclusion is correct. These streamers promoting casinos are just their to get paid, regardless if it's just pure deception.

If it is not live streaming, then, doubt the authenticity of the game results. Because the current tech can easily modify the videos that they can upload online. They can even skip some of the losing scenarios and show only the winning instances. In short, don't believe what you are seeing as they can alter what they want you to see.

Quote from: FatFork on October 20, 2024, 04:21:09 PM

It's a scam, plain and simple. Those streamers are getting paid to promote the casino, and they're being rigged to win. It's like those fake reviews you see online. The whole thing is a setup to lure people in and get them to deposit money.

Don't fall for it. If you want to gamble, do it responsibly. But know they ain't running charities. The games are stacked against you no matter what those streamers make you think.

Most of them are indeed paid. Very few streamers will promote certain site without any form of compensation. So yes, they will surely do their best to deceive their subscribers about the results of their game because they need to portray something catchy for the site they are being paid at. The tech these days are getting sophisticated, so quite easy to edit so fast and publish online.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

There is nothing suspicious there but those streamers are sponsored by the casinos that they're streaming. They've got special accounts for them that have a better winning rate.

But even if they are going to win there, they cannot withdraw the money and it's all for the show. If they can withdraw the money, it's only a type of advertisement that they're winning jackpots, and withdrawals on that casino is easy.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Well, most of us don't know how they do it, but we all know that these streamers are just promoting the casino (not unless, if they don't mention or show which casino they're playing), so most likely the casino have altered the flow of the streamer's game showing us more wins, which can be very different when we're the ones whos playing.
Therefore, your conclusion is correct. These streamers promoting casinos are just their to get paid, regardless if it's just pure deception.

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This is one of the strategies of gambling casinos to gain the interest of its viewers. While this could show some authenticity of the gaming experience, but seeing the streamer hitting big wins consistently, which is rare to happen when gambling, that leads me to a conclusion that everything that is presented is still a casino manipulation, and it's not surprising after all since the casino itself is paying the streamer. It's should be more seen as an entertainment rather than seeing it as a real and authentic one.

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Its obvious streamer are only doing their best to try in convincing their audience that the casino is profitable whereas its not all that true. Gamble is not a charity game, so we shouldn't be expecting anything other than wining and losing which overtime your loses would be more compared to your wins. Your probability of staying profitable all the time is very minimal, and that is because the house is always on the wining side, the earlier we get this, the better for us to stop chasing after new casinos because of their edited ads. Well even if it wasn't an edited video, that would be one among 50 trials that came true, its obvious if they keep playing they might also end up exhausting everything.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

We know that it's just entertainment so why get serious with those streamers promoting some online site on streaming.
Feeling unrealistic is natural because in the end it is just a lure so that we want to be on the site and try to play on it.

They clearly have a partnership where the gambling that is done happens because of work and it is certain that online sites that employ several streamers will certainly provide the best as entertainment including continuous victory in every bet made.

But it cannot be denied that there are still many who believe that it is reality even though it is just a game for mutual benefit where the streamer is paid for the work that is their job and the site expects the viewers to register on their site with a simple trick that their site really gives victory to the player.

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If we are talking about streamers then just know that they are definitely running a demo account, so your suspicions about it been unrealistic is actually correct. First of all streamers needs attention and these views are what gives them their boosts or earnings. Running gambling on a fake account has to be the only strategy they can come up with, it's all part of a marketing strategy. This is why it's important that you don't just believe everything you see online, a lot of people have lost money due to the fact that they were influenced by fake adverts from streamers.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

If it is a casino that I am gambling on, being involved with suspicious streaming activities can affect the trust I have in them. Casinos that care about their reputation would distance themselves from fake streamers while trying to build a reputation because many of us now have an eye to easily spot this deceit.

If they want to be involved with streamers, there is a need to do it the proper way, not trying to deceive gamblers.

The purpose for streamers is for promotion. There are other ways to promote a casino.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

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So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The way I see it, those streamers (specially when they are under the payroll of some casino) are supposed to be seen in any other way than entertainment and as a "demo" of the slots they have playing. There is always the chance they are being favored by the casino to make people believe earning money from gambling is that easy, when in reality, it is not like that.
Even if the streamer does not have any sponsorship from a casino one still needs to approach them as entertainment, in the same way people watch streamers to play videogames (instead of viewers paying for the game and playing it by their own).

It does not erode much the trust I could have on a casino in particular, because I understand it is all about advertisement and I am sure there is some small letters within the description of the stream or the streamer profile in which his gambling sessions should not be taken serious and only are for the sake amusement. They are pretty much legally covered to avoid being sued.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The incentive for a casino to rig a game when they have a huge streamer advertising for them is massive. I have noticed that too and what strikes me as odd is how these things work out so well when they are live. Technically, I think it would be no big deal for a casino to manipulate a game and have those who are streaming have a higher win rate. I doubt that they would have any of the streamers actually know about it as that would a huge risk. If for some reason a streamer would ever make that public, the casino would be in big trouble. But manipulating an account without the streamer knowing is probably possible. In 20 minutes having 3 jackpots of over 100x is quite suspicious. Sure, could be a lucky day, but I believe it happens too often at times.

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I remember skel-- metawin.com's founder-- shared to us in chat that some providers do have a streamer mode of 100%+ RTP. Lol.

So rigging can happen as that's coming from someone who operates a casino. I wonder if other stuff can be rigged as well, though that wouldn't be odd at this point. I guess you have to trust casinos you play with and game providers they aren't doing streamer mode lol or better yet, just take streams with a grain of salt always.

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