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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 29, 2024, 08:11:14 PM

Yes, it all has to do with the best option to do marketing, the one that sells the most is sometimes with advertisements that are completely false but that People with a weaker mind Believe , it is difficult to fight against that, newbies especially as you say , well it is one of the reasons why many enter, in itself the interest of a casino is to Attract people so that they can enter the casino , I Personally will always say that the best thing of all is to avoid things that sound very splendid and easy , because there it is a total lie and whatever it is will be done to take the money.

For beginners, of course, they are one of the targets because beginners are usually easily attracted by watching some videos of big wins that are said to be easy to get at the advertised casino, even though it is not known whether it is fake or real, but what is clear is that there are no big wins that are easy to get, I myself believe that there are big wins that can be obtained but this is very difficult to happen, and there is also no specific benchmark for getting it.

When we have a friend who is a beginner in gambling, there is nothing wrong with reminding them not to gamble excessively, if they are not ready to lose or get hurt.
And with me who actually understands this, I often ignore it, without being too interested, like seeing an ordinary advertisement even though a big win is displayed.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 26, 2024, 03:15:29 AM

Promotions carried out by casinos by giving users the hope of winning large amounts of winnings are one of the reasons why beginners are finally tempted and they start to think that it can really come true. In fact, it is not as it seems because gambling depends on luck and also a win that can be said to be big can probably be obtained in many attempts. Instead of that being the amount of winnings, it will only be a return on the losses we feel and even the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of losses we have ever felt. However, those who are addicted find it difficult to think like this, because they will continue to pursue wins that they never actually get.

Yes, it all has to do with the best option to do marketing, the one that sells the most is sometimes with advertisements that are completely false but that People with a weaker mind Believe , it is difficult to fight against that, newbies especially as you say , well it is one of the reasons why many enter, in itself the interest of a casino is to Attract people so that they can enter the casino , I Personally will always say that the best thing of all is to avoid things that sound very splendid and easy , because there it is a total lie and whatever it is will be done to take the money.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 29, 2024, 04:58:45 PM

Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

If you're an old timer in gambling, you will know in one look how unrealistic they are showing things on their videos considering its live, its edited, and many of these are done on trial stage where winning is possible, and most of time the money they are using is not from their pocket, its the newbies that got victimized by these deceptive streams.
You have to learn the facts about gambling and you'll know that these streamers are telling a lie about winning in casinos, there's no instant profit in casino.

Well most newbies are the ones that choose to deceived, now and days most folks are now too lazy to do their own research before jumping into anything especially when it relate to financial stuff.

Gambling ain't a bad thing but with the wrong approach it can literally lead to a bad outcomes , and most of these gambling streams are yjs ones given most newbies the mindset of such wrong approaches.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

If you're an old timer in gambling, you will know in one look how unrealistic they are showing things on their videos considering its live, its edited, and many of these are done on trial stage where winning is possible, and most of time the money they are using is not from their pocket, its the newbies that got victimized by these deceptive streams.
You have to learn the facts about gambling and you'll know that these streamers are telling a lie about winning in casinos, there's no instant profit in casino.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Is just there to lure folks into gambling, not just that but to also give them the wrong mindset/approach towards gambling. That's why most come into gambling just to get rich pretty fast . Like is that easy , most folk like that usually endup losing it all because of that wrong mindset. So gambling shouldn't be counted as a means of earning rather as a means of entertainment. Because most time the casino is going to take back most of the win even your capital also .

Thats why the people who do really usually get hooked up with these videos or streams are those noobs who doesnt really know gambling about and the risks imposed into it. They will really be directly believing that it could really be something that they could also do on the moment that they've seen someone is winning, specially into these streamers who do have that huge funds into their accounts and making out some huge bets in every roll and ending up on having those huge wins. We do know that human beings are naturally greedy and on the moment or time that you do see someone win big then you do get that boost up.

One of the main mistake of people is that they do become that delusional on the moment or time that they do really have those kind of wrong intents on what they are really that tending to do specially
with gambling on which it is really that very wrong that you will really be having this kind of approach on things. It will really be best that you should really know on how to control yourself on times like these.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 29, 2024, 02:48:32 AM

Yeah, these falsifications of real events and the creation of non-existent events will probably really flood the network completely. And immature minds: children, schoolchildren and students will not be able to imagine the real picture of the world after some time. And they will live in some fantasy virtual worlds. You are right, humanity needs to fight this somehow.
However, it is not entirely clear how to do this if AI is developing extremely quickly. In short, the plot of the blockbuster "The Matrix" is probably already somewhere close to the direction of civilization development. People will probably not be batteries yet. But they may well turn into a homogeneous mass of useless creatures that populated the Earth and at the same time seriously spoiled the ecology.

I would rather not continue to discussing about artificial intelligence in this context, as has little or nothing to do with the applications it could have on gambling and betting. This is a chat which would be better approached in politics and society board.
Though, if you talk about the matrix and the level of reality these alterations or deep fakes could have in the future, it would not be a surprise if some black hat group exploited such technology to influence of the results or even in the public sentiment about sport matches or political events. Unfortunately, elections in the West and the most vulnerable to manipulations and those elections are subjected to betting, so it would be possible for someone to make a lot of money by influencing on Elections, not only in the United States, but also smaller and less stable countries, in which international community may be not as interested to watch over, but bettors still have a stake on.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 23, 2024, 03:48:14 AM

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... It is definitely necessary to introduce stricter filters for falsehood and violence in pictures on the Internet. And not only for children.

I am not sure whether the solution to the problem would be to set in place something which could be considered to be some form of censorship, you know. I am in for free speech and the right for people to share whatever they want on the internet, as long as it is not illegal content. A rather preferable approach would be for schools and universities to include some classes on how to tell reality from fantasy in their formal programs, so children could grow up being more skeptical on whatever they see on the internet, being related to gambling, politics or whatever.
Artificial intelligence is getting so good at making false videos to the extent the other day I was looking at the Twitter account of someone who is a little bit of an homophobic person, and people in the replies were sharing an AI/deepfake video of him making out with another man, with the purpose of mocking him for being homophobic.
One could see the video was false because some mistakes made by the algorithm, but still could fool someone out there.

We are seeing very confusing and dangerous times to develop before our very own eyes.

Yeah, these falsifications of real events and the creation of non-existent events will probably really flood the network completely. And immature minds: children, schoolchildren and students will not be able to imagine the real picture of the world after some time. And they will live in some fantasy virtual worlds. You are right, humanity needs to fight this somehow.
However, it is not entirely clear how to do this if AI is developing extremely quickly. In short, the plot of the blockbuster "The Matrix" is probably already somewhere close to the direction of civilization development. People will probably not be batteries yet. But they may well turn into a homogeneous mass of useless creatures that populated the Earth and at the same time seriously spoiled the ecology.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The incentive for a casino to rig a game when they have a huge streamer advertising for them is massive. I have noticed that too and what strikes me as odd is how these things work out so well when they are live. Technically, I think it would be no big deal for a casino to manipulate a game and have those who are streaming have a higher win rate. I doubt that they would have any of the streamers actually know about it as that would a huge risk. If for some reason a streamer would ever make that public, the casino would be in big trouble. But manipulating an account without the streamer knowing is probably possible. In 20 minutes having 3 jackpots of over 100x is quite suspicious. Sure, could be a lucky day, but I believe it happens too often at times.

Probably many people do it deliberately to show more winnings to the viewers and they also want to register using the link located under the stream. Viewers will probably think that they are no worse than this guy and even smarter in some things, someone will turn on their egoism and eventually switch to this casino to play.

I think that many people fall for the fact that because of their excessive confidence they consider themselves not stupid and too lucky. Also, the main idea is that new players think that they will lose very little, earn money and leave with a profit forever. But this is a mistake to think, because no one ever thinks about a plan in case of loss, and this is the first thing new players need to think about.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Is just there to lure folks into gambling, not just that but to also give them the wrong mindset/approach towards gambling. That's why most come into gambling just to get rich pretty fast . Like is that easy , most folk like that usually endup losing it all because of that wrong mindset. So gambling shouldn't be counted as a means of earning rather as a means of entertainment. Because most time the casino is going to take back most of the win even your capital also .

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 27, 2024, 02:51:11 AM

Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

In the end, the point is to what I have said above that there is actually another way that can be done to find out whether what the streamers get is real or not, namely by being rational in seeing everything, because that way you don't need to spend or sacrifice some money to find out without having to register on the link they provide, and also because by thinking rationally I think you will understand that there will be no significant results with just a little effort because it will never seem reasonable.

On the other hand, it might be right to say that casinos and streamers are quite smart in terms of strategy, they know about the right way to brainwash people, such as by showing everything that is very tempting to tempt people who watch. Another thing is that now making money is not easy, you should think in that direction because it can also help lead you to the conclusion that what the streamers managed to get is unreasonable

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Quote from: Weawant on October 26, 2024, 06:57:04 PM

Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

Well if it is indeed manipulation, it's worthwhile to spread the word. Apparently there's many people introduced to gambling this way and not much if any talk about it. Now gambling platforms own their own streaming platforms as well and promote streamers to do as they dictate there. So it's very hard to know the truth if there's zero supervision.

Maybe aside of blocking gambling sites, authorities should also take seriously the possibility of enacting some form of blocks on these streaming sites so their citizens can be more protected. I might be overthinking it but I don't believe there's another way to save some people from gambling other than this.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 27, 2024, 02:51:11 AM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

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I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 26, 2024, 06:57:04 PM

Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

that's right, of course the streamer gets sponsored by the casino itself and there are benefits that the streamer can get, with the casino they will get the benefits by having more people visit their casino and gamble, this is a pretty good collaboration too throughout the streamers I watch they often always get wins even with big wins they can get it, this is a bit suspicious but maybe for people who are still thinking about their victory they will take it seriously.
Whatever the streamer or casino does, the goal is to get many people interested and gamble because that's where the casino can get the benefits.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on October 26, 2024, 04:14:20 PM

Saying it's totally impossible to achieve those winnings sounds so harsh to me, as there are winnings that can still be achieved in a casino, but they can't just happen in every game they place, which is where the doubt comes in because it will be very stupid to believe that all those winnings are true; some are, but most of them are likely to be manipulated.

Indeed, there are certainly people who can win at gambling, whether by using small or large capital, also with small or large bets. However, if you compare the wins and losses that occur in someone who gambles, then losing is something that happens more often, even with me and including you, who in my opinion experience more losses than wins, the rarity of winning is common because basically the chances of winning for players are smaller than the chances of losing.

The number of streamers who can get big wins, I myself think that their wins are manipulated or have been arranged, because of the cooperation between the casino and the streamer which allows the goal to tempt many people to gamble, especially those who are still new to gambling who are likely to be interested.

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Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

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When we deal with videos we can't take it as a relevent and representative sample of what a random customer can achieve. They are sponsored by casinos, so they won't upload the videos where they are losing money, in addition they don't play with their own money so they've an unlimited bankroll letting them to play until they get a crazy winning streak, so they just show their better streaks on Youtube actually. In addition, videos are often edited.

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Quote from: Su-asa on October 24, 2024, 11:58:53 AM

Streamers can promote anything to run their ads, this is their source of income. It's not a surprise that gambling streamers make use of demo accounts as a way of luring the viewers or getting Their attention. People need to realize that what they advertise are fake, it's totally impossible to achieve those wins in casino gambling on a regular basis, they make it seem so easy and people are falling for it everyday. Ask yourself if winning was so easy why would bet companies bother to start up these businesses, what they take from people on a daily basis is more than what people are winning by far.

Saying it's totally impossible to achieve those winnings sounds so harsh to me, as there are winnings that can still be achieved in a casino, but they can't just happen in every game they place, which is where the doubt comes in because it will be very stupid to believe that all those winnings are true; some are, but most of them are likely to be manipulated.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 25, 2024, 11:08:47 AM

Quote from: milewilda on October 22, 2024, 06:38:15 AM

Gambling should really be just that for fun and not something that should really be considered out to be main source of income or profits. It will really be just that depending
on how people will really realizing things.

That is the way it should be, but most people who enter a casino, especially those who are novices, are looking to get rich at once just by playing once, of course this is fueled by advertising, movies, things like that, that is why addictions occur, in the case of some who do not show this behavior, a player or a person before playing should have a high financial education so as not to spend so much money, otherwise the money that they put into the casino will not affect their life, I think that is the main thing and take the game as fun, never as an income or job.

Promotions carried out by casinos by giving users the hope of winning large amounts of winnings are one of the reasons why beginners are finally tempted and they start to think that it can really come true. In fact, it is not as it seems because gambling depends on luck and also a win that can be said to be big can probably be obtained in many attempts. Instead of that being the amount of winnings, it will only be a return on the losses we feel and even the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of losses we have ever felt. However, those who are addicted find it difficult to think like this, because they will continue to pursue wins that they never actually get.

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