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Quote from: Oasisman on October 20, 2024, 06:37:45 PM

Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Well, most of us don't know how they do it, but we all know that these streamers are just promoting the casino (not unless, if they don't mention or show which casino they're playing), so most likely the casino have altered the flow of the streamer's game showing us more wins, which can be very different when we're the ones whos playing.
Therefore, your conclusion is correct. These streamers promoting casinos are just their to get paid, regardless if it's just pure deception.

If it is not live streaming, then, doubt the authenticity of the game results. Because the current tech can easily modify the videos that they can upload online. They can even skip some of the losing scenarios and show only the winning instances. In short, don't believe what you are seeing as they can alter what they want you to see.

Quote from: FatFork on October 20, 2024, 04:21:09 PM

It's a scam, plain and simple. Those streamers are getting paid to promote the casino, and they're being rigged to win. It's like those fake reviews you see online. The whole thing is a setup to lure people in and get them to deposit money.

Don't fall for it. If you want to gamble, do it responsibly. But know they ain't running charities. The games are stacked against you no matter what those streamers make you think.

Most of them are indeed paid. Very few streamers will promote certain site without any form of compensation. So yes, they will surely do their best to deceive their subscribers about the results of their game because they need to portray something catchy for the site they are being paid at. The tech these days are getting sophisticated, so quite easy to edit so fast and publish online.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

There is nothing suspicious there but those streamers are sponsored by the casinos that they're streaming. They've got special accounts for them that have a better winning rate.

But even if they are going to win there, they cannot withdraw the money and it's all for the show. If they can withdraw the money, it's only a type of advertisement that they're winning jackpots, and withdrawals on that casino is easy.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Well, most of us don't know how they do it, but we all know that these streamers are just promoting the casino (not unless, if they don't mention or show which casino they're playing), so most likely the casino have altered the flow of the streamer's game showing us more wins, which can be very different when we're the ones whos playing.
Therefore, your conclusion is correct. These streamers promoting casinos are just their to get paid, regardless if it's just pure deception.

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This is one of the strategies of gambling casinos to gain the interest of its viewers. While this could show some authenticity of the gaming experience, but seeing the streamer hitting big wins consistently, which is rare to happen when gambling, that leads me to a conclusion that everything that is presented is still a casino manipulation, and it's not surprising after all since the casino itself is paying the streamer. It's should be more seen as an entertainment rather than seeing it as a real and authentic one.

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Its obvious streamer are only doing their best to try in convincing their audience that the casino is profitable whereas its not all that true. Gamble is not a charity game, so we shouldn't be expecting anything other than wining and losing which overtime your loses would be more compared to your wins. Your probability of staying profitable all the time is very minimal, and that is because the house is always on the wining side, the earlier we get this, the better for us to stop chasing after new casinos because of their edited ads. Well even if it wasn't an edited video, that would be one among 50 trials that came true, its obvious if they keep playing they might also end up exhausting everything.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

We know that it's just entertainment so why get serious with those streamers promoting some online site on streaming.
Feeling unrealistic is natural because in the end it is just a lure so that we want to be on the site and try to play on it.

They clearly have a partnership where the gambling that is done happens because of work and it is certain that online sites that employ several streamers will certainly provide the best as entertainment including continuous victory in every bet made.

But it cannot be denied that there are still many who believe that it is reality even though it is just a game for mutual benefit where the streamer is paid for the work that is their job and the site expects the viewers to register on their site with a simple trick that their site really gives victory to the player.

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If we are talking about streamers then just know that they are definitely running a demo account, so your suspicions about it been unrealistic is actually correct. First of all streamers needs attention and these views are what gives them their boosts or earnings. Running gambling on a fake account has to be the only strategy they can come up with, it's all part of a marketing strategy. This is why it's important that you don't just believe everything you see online, a lot of people have lost money due to the fact that they were influenced by fake adverts from streamers.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

If it is a casino that I am gambling on, being involved with suspicious streaming activities can affect the trust I have in them. Casinos that care about their reputation would distance themselves from fake streamers while trying to build a reputation because many of us now have an eye to easily spot this deceit.

If they want to be involved with streamers, there is a need to do it the proper way, not trying to deceive gamblers.

The purpose for streamers is for promotion. There are other ways to promote a casino.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

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So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The way I see it, those streamers (specially when they are under the payroll of some casino) are supposed to be seen in any other way than entertainment and as a "demo" of the slots they have playing. There is always the chance they are being favored by the casino to make people believe earning money from gambling is that easy, when in reality, it is not like that.
Even if the streamer does not have any sponsorship from a casino one still needs to approach them as entertainment, in the same way people watch streamers to play videogames (instead of viewers paying for the game and playing it by their own).

It does not erode much the trust I could have on a casino in particular, because I understand it is all about advertisement and I am sure there is some small letters within the description of the stream or the streamer profile in which his gambling sessions should not be taken serious and only are for the sake amusement. They are pretty much legally covered to avoid being sued.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The incentive for a casino to rig a game when they have a huge streamer advertising for them is massive. I have noticed that too and what strikes me as odd is how these things work out so well when they are live. Technically, I think it would be no big deal for a casino to manipulate a game and have those who are streaming have a higher win rate. I doubt that they would have any of the streamers actually know about it as that would a huge risk. If for some reason a streamer would ever make that public, the casino would be in big trouble. But manipulating an account without the streamer knowing is probably possible. In 20 minutes having 3 jackpots of over 100x is quite suspicious. Sure, could be a lucky day, but I believe it happens too often at times.

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I remember skel-- metawin.com's founder-- shared to us in chat that some providers do have a streamer mode of 100%+ RTP. Lol.

So rigging can happen as that's coming from someone who operates a casino. I wonder if other stuff can be rigged as well, though that wouldn't be odd at this point. I guess you have to trust casinos you play with and game providers they aren't doing streamer mode lol or better yet, just take streams with a grain of salt always.

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It's the result are using the same RTP with other customers? the only thing is just (trust me bro). Could be true, could be no (you just can speculation) the only valid reason is they got more capital comparing to us from casino (cause is getting money from casino) can't be withdraw.

Even the streamer can withdraw the balance, I still have some speculation the account only can withdraw to specific address (an address belong to casino). Big advice for everyone, rather than seeing streamer who betting thousand dollar for spin (just seeing someone who are betting a few cent or dollars) like we did

Cause even the balance are from casino, the balance they're using is same like we are using.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

It's a scam, plain and simple. Those streamers are getting paid to promote the casino, and they're being rigged to win. It's like those fake reviews you see online. The whole thing is a setup to lure people in and get them to deposit money.

Don't fall for it. If you want to gamble, do it responsibly. But know they ain't running charities. The games are stacked against you no matter what those streamers make you think.

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People are moved by successful story and what better inhumane strategy than to fake success to deceive others.
This isn't limited to casino
Is all round, that's why I don't make decisions based on videos or blogs I read about
Except I have conducted proper research.

If the wins are getting too perfect, then it starts becoming fake to me.
Though I'm not saying its not possible
Just the paranoia speaking.

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Unrealistic winning streak from streamers? My friend of mine every week playing super ace he sometimes got winning streak so I don't think what you see from streamers are unrealistic or fake it wasn't always happen I watched a few streamers that got lossing streak than winning streak maybe the streamer that you watched got lucky since it's live streaming they can't able to fake the video.

They don't just afraid to gamble because they were given capital from the casino to promote it.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

I am pretty sure everyone here in the gambling scene will tell you the same. It can be normal especially if you play super high volatility slots which means that you can win big, very big in a short amount of time but the wins will be rare compared to other less volatile slots. So it maybe that the streamer was in such a time frame where he hit those big wins in a short amount of time during that 20 minutes game play that he had. I can tell you one thing though, I don't trust many casinos that they change the RTP and if you see this maintenance thing where the minimum bet changes to 4x of what it used to be, then something must be definitely terribly wrong with that casino, I am not naming it here as everyone who see a 4x increase in their minimum bet in IDR currency will directly understand who they are. Getting back to the streaming, it may be very well realistic though.

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It is unethical, but an effective form of advertising. Showing the actual gameplay and normal returns is good to teach someone how to navigate the website and will attract some, but it doesn't give the casino an edge over others and they cannot consistently just show that. This brings the temptation to manipulate the results gotten by the streamer to attract more users and encourage the existing players to keep playing. The streamer is meant to indicate if the gameplay is manually altered, but do not expect that from anyone and do your own research.

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this doesn't just happen on streams they also do it in ads, I remember several months ago when gambling ads were so rampant on Facebook that it showed local vlog influencers easily winning sizable amounts of money(at least in our country) from the casino and the influencer would even say that "ut very easy to win on this casino". doing these kinds of deceiving ads is highly unprofessional and it should be called out.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

I think it's no longer something strange, or I mean I personally have been suspicious of it for a long time, especially when I was still very active in gambling, as you said that it is very unrealistic when you see the many wins with significant amounts obtained by streamers and it really looks tempting, and actually the scenario of the show made by the streamers can lead a gambler to two things, namely between being tempted and involved in the promoted site to get the same results as those obtained by the streamers or between them being suspicious of the big wins produced by the streamers with little effort.

This is where your common sense and rational mindset are tested, simply put if you don't consider anything and only focus on the very tempting amount of winnings then it will be very easy for you to fall into it and get involved in it, but if you are able to use your common sense and rational mindset correctly then you will think that the show you see is unreasonable.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

With large sponsored budget people take more risks, as it's not their money, and obviously more often win large amounts, so it seems like they are winning more then you (which they technically are), but they are also losing more too. We are just wired to pay attention to the winnings.

Also when we see recorded streams, we most likely see the ones where they win more then lose, because those videos are shared and viewed more often. No one wants to see a streamer losing everything all the time. Even though i have seen that too. I was in a group of viewers who got paid for viewing live and commenting. Streamers also give codes for casinos / tips / rains for people commenting, so they seem to have a large audience. In reality they are mostly poor and paid bounty hunters.

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