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February 05, 2019, 05:47:12 PM
... gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.

in terms of popularity both trading and gambling are equal but trading is more preferable option by majority because they believe that it is more profitable and less riskier due to the fact that you have some guides that you can depend on  . unlike to gambling that luck only play a major role .  for people that are less knowledgeable like me , i dont have a choice but go with gambling .
leveraging now can make less profit and big loss because of too much volatility so gambling can be better in this situation. Its good not to do anything without enough knowledge, it only means you know what to do in the right way. Gambling only needs a small understanding and you can play easily.
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February 05, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
... gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.

in terms of popularity both trading and gambling are equal but trading is more preferable option by majority because they believe that it is more profitable and less riskier due to the fact that you have some guides that you can depend on  . unlike to gambling that luck only play a major role .  for people that are less knowledgeable like me , i dont have a choice but go with gambling .
It is really difficult to be in leverage trading now, we can't actually make profit with these. Gambling might have a huge risk also but it somehow more applicable at this time. Prices may affect our trading strategies but for gambling, it is only our luck who could brought us into winning. Leverage trading will only be effective when the market are pumping.
Why wouldn't you be able to make a profit in leverage trading? There are a lot of opportunities as long as you are correct in your predictions/analysis with different indicators or something like that. I do not entirely agree that it's only luck, you could also increase your chances in winning when you input your strategy too. It's better to be prepared.

And I think it's better to have margin trading with leverage so you could profit on an uptrend and downtrend with the right calls.
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February 05, 2019, 10:24:04 AM
... gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.

in terms of popularity both trading and gambling are equal but trading is more preferable option by majority because they believe that it is more profitable and less riskier due to the fact that you have some guides that you can depend on  . unlike to gambling that luck only play a major role .  for people that are less knowledgeable like me , i dont have a choice but go with gambling .
It is really difficult to be in leverage trading now, we can't actually make profit with these. Gambling might have a huge risk also but it somehow more applicable at this time. Prices may affect our trading strategies but for gambling, it is only our luck who could brought us into winning. Leverage trading will only be effective when the market are pumping.
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February 05, 2019, 10:10:10 AM
... gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.

in terms of popularity both trading and gambling are equal but trading is more preferable option by majority because they believe that it is more profitable and less riskier due to the fact that you have some guides that you can depend on  . unlike to gambling that luck only play a major role .  for people that are less knowledgeable like me , i dont have a choice but go with gambling .
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February 05, 2019, 09:21:15 AM
Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
Leverage trading is like a double-edged sword, it can be very profitable and can hurt you very much.
but I don't think it can be equated with gambling. in leverage trading there is also a technical analysis and does not depend 100% on luck

Leverage trading is quite similar to gambling as we have to guess whether the price will go up or down and if our guess is write we can profit else we are at loss. This is again dependent upon luck that our guess is right or wrong. I can relate it to sports betting where we have some data on which we can analysis and the predict the outcome.
Inside crypto, leverage trading is mostly contains of lucks, as analysis and data indicators are not really being used by many traders who
work with this type of tradings, influence by bagholders can simply change the market directions and whatever you do there's no chance of yours
to reverse what they wanted to do and whatever directions they wanted to take.
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February 05, 2019, 12:50:10 AM
Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
But gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.

Because people only see ordinary trading so far and they don't know much about leverage trading. But for people who are familiar with trading, I think they hear about leverage trading and they want to learn how to make a profit using leverage. But it's too risky to trade with leverage especially if we don't have any knowledge about the trend and we only use the same method with ordinary trading. In leverage trading, as long as the trend still increase, you can make a lot of profit especially if you use huge money to place short or long trading.
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February 04, 2019, 09:15:35 PM
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Leverage is the chance to do something you couldnt do otherwise which is sell Bitcoin you dont own or buy when you dont actually have the full amount required.    It requires more accuracy then just a plain hold because its more time dependant, I thought you meant like real market trading for a minute because normal markets have a ton of borrowed money in there.    Bitcoin becomes more volatile with borrowed money, I'm not sure its for the best if it leans on money that will disappear later too much.     

My overall take on Bitcoin price pulling back is that it was necessary to squeeze the rag dry of all the weak money in the price, before we can continue with a more stable price.   Having the exchange with margin in there keeps putting back short term blips in price that may not last if the overall effect is to remove anything less solid.   Anyone doing this should be sure to take profits fast, like a bet not think its going to keep running up.     Price is checking itself alot nowadays not running so much, it might in future but seems every week is quite similar in that way now
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February 04, 2019, 08:48:11 PM
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Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
But gambling is more popular in this situation most of the people don't know about leverage trading because when people are thinking about money making they are going only easier said that's why gambling will more popular and there is no higher guidance will about to trade in the way of leverage trading.
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February 04, 2019, 04:56:45 AM
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I only gamble I do not trust the whole leverage trading, If I am going to gamble ill do it right and play cards or poker, Something that I actually have a chance at I have asked several people the same question, and none have ever made really much off of leverage trading..

Yes I also don't know much about leverage trading because it will not been used to be much more people but gambling is always been used by a lots of people and increasing every day so I also trust gambling more than this type of trading.

With margin trading, you can trade with an extra amount of money borrowed from someone on the basis of the money you already have. You can be able to make a bigger profit because your buying amount will bigger too and when the price can increase, your profit will increase too. I prefer to do leveraged trading than gambling because there is a big chance for me to make a bigger profit than ordinary trading. But still, I like playing gambling too as many other Grin
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February 04, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
#96
Lol both have their advantages and disadvantages and are very risky. Even though you can have more lucks with leverage trading than mere gambling. You can as well lose a lot of money on leverage trading.
Its more risky in leverage trading if you don't know how to do it well, though gambling of course its given that its risky but in trading you still do your effort here to study the market. Better not to trade and gamble at all if you think the risk is too much for you or it will just put you more in debt. Just have fun in gambling, don't take it seriously or else you will lose more.
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February 03, 2019, 11:01:47 PM
#95
I only gamble I do not trust the whole leverage trading, If I am going to gamble ill do it right and play cards or poker, Something that I actually have a chance at I have asked several people the same question, and none have ever made really much off of leverage trading..

Yes I also don't know much about leverage trading because it will not been used to be much more people but gambling is always been used by a lots of people and increasing every day so I also trust gambling more than this type of trading.
Because you are a gambler and such sections are filled by most gamblers, but when you are in the trading section then there will be lots of people debating you when you said that. As privously, gambling and trading have advantages and disadvantages and when you equalize the two or choose the one that you think is profitable then you have to know both and at least you have to try how to gambling and how to trading. Many people who said gambling was about luck, you just need to put up and pray to be approached with luck, strategy only gives a little confidence in you. Unless with trading, it can be 99% to get profit you have to use a strategy.
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February 03, 2019, 07:20:34 PM
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This is also what I had thought when I first tried leveraged trading. It is comparable, like 50/50 if the dump will happen or the pump. It's a matter of great technical analysis on charts, but it still won't be 100% sure because of the uncertainty of the market. There are preparation and strategies for trading and also for gambling, and then if you lose in any of them, you could apply the martingale strategy. I have not yet tried it, but I know someone who uses it in trading.
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February 03, 2019, 07:06:41 PM
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I only gamble I do not trust the whole leverage trading, If I am going to gamble ill do it right and play cards or poker, Something that I actually have a chance at I have asked several people the same question, and none have ever made really much off of leverage trading..

Yes I also don't know much about leverage trading because it will not been used to be much more people but gambling is always been used by a lots of people and increasing every day so I also trust gambling more than this type of trading.
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February 03, 2019, 06:29:41 PM
#92
Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
Gambling and leverage trading are almost the same.  But one is lesser in risk than another.  If you are trading you do make some analysis using technical and fundamentals issues but in gambling it is a different think entirely.
I don't see any lesser risk in them both, these two are still risky and could end up in losing too much of your money. But with the help of technical analysis it might have increased your chances but not that high so it is still risky. I suggest if you go leverage trading you should have a better TA and other analysis in the market so you won't end up burning your whole money.
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February 03, 2019, 05:34:28 PM
#91
Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
Gambling and leverage trading are almost the same.  But one is lesser in risk than another.  If you are trading you do make some analysis using technical and fundamentals issues but in gambling it is a different think entirely.
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February 03, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
#90
Lol both have their advantages and disadvantages and are very risky. Even though you can have more lucks with leverage trading than mere gambling. You can as well lose a lot of money on leverage trading.

I especially believe that leverage trading with altcoin is pure gambling.

Cause on btc you can see the big waves... But on alts? With the BTC price ratio?
Lol you can't see shyit don't kid yourself.
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January 02, 2019, 09:18:02 PM
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Closer yes, but still a long way from Gambling. Margin trading is simply another tool to improve returns or use money for another purpose when you don’t want to cash in you stock. Want to buy a car and not cash in stock to do so? Use margin. Is that gambling? Want to sell a stock short? Use margin. Is buying a stock to go up not gambling but selling because you think it will go down is gambling? Want to sell a put to buy a stock at a better price and get paid for doing so? Requires margin. Not gambling.



Want to buy high yield junk bonds but 8% isn’t enough for you, so margin it up and get 17%, now that is gambling. You can’t use margin for penny stocks or any stock under $5, for IPOs, not supposed to for purchase of mutual funds. So there are rules to keep margin out of risky investments, but you can still take on more risk with margin than without. But in trading you have uncertainty but you also have a certain amount of control. In a casino, the lottery, a horse race., that is gambling. The odds are against you but if you win you get a big return. In investing the odds are with you and the returns are smaller and realized over longer periods of time. Like so many things, margin can be abused, and it makes investing a little more of a gamble because the risk often increases. But it is still a lot different from gambling. For example, I do gamble at
 vegascasino.io and that’s how I got to  know that there is always a big difference between the two.  I do use that casino because of their high deposit bonuses. When betting, there is an already predetermined odd/risk set by the bookie but, at leverage gambling, you have to set your level of risk by yourself.



Trading is gambling if you don’t know what you are doing. Trading with a margin account is necessary due to the nature of these markets. You need leverage to amplify your gains otherwise it wouldn’t be prudent to trade. The big boys have the capital to make enough profit for their time. The average trader needs a lot of leverage to do the same thing percentage wise. This is why the less capital you have the harder it is and the more challenging and also why the big boys have such an easy time knocking 95% of the retail traders out of the market with a very small move.



A trader that is aware of what leverage can do for him may tend to increase the size of his trades as losses accumulate, hoping for a recovery in the very last moment. This approach can only work against the trader, and usually leads to margin calls and huge losses in trading accounts. Leverage does not spare any trader from learning HOW to trade – a bad trader will continue to be a bad trader regardless of a possibly lucky trade made on high leverage that brought him a temporary big profit. High leverage creates an “everything is possible” illusion, which hides the enormous risk associated to this kind of trading.
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February 03, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
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Lol both have their advantages and disadvantages and are very risky. Even though you can have more lucks with leverage trading than mere gambling. You can as well lose a lot of money on leverage trading.
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December 28, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
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Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
There is no much different between gambling and leverage trading as both are too risky to go into.  It is possible that you can loose all your investments in just a single trade as will as loosing your entire investments in a single betting!  However,  you can predict to some extent by using candlesticks formation or news in leverage trading but in gambling you only depend on luck.
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December 28, 2018, 08:22:46 AM
#87
I don’t think that “leveraged trading” is similar to gambling. No matter what type of trading it is, your decisions should always depend upon the knowledge about the market, implying that you need to understand and research the market carefully. Even for deciding the price of the coin in leveraged trading, you should really have some market knowledge but in gambling it entirely based on random guess and the result is based on your luck.

Yes, you are right. In leveraged trading, we should know how much profit we should take and don't greedy because this will makes you become a loss. I prefer with leveraged trading too although we don't have much knowledge about the coins as long as we can see the green colour in the status of the trading then it means, we can take the profit. I think it's easy to try in leveraged trading and the profit will be good for us.
In any kind of trading and gambling greediness can be a killer of your stash. Both are risky, both can be tricky as hell, and both can take your money away or earn you a lot of money. I will go with gambling, much easier, much less bothering, leverage trading require special skills, you need to be active a lot, you need to have accounts everywhere, basically you earn of fluctuations in exchange rates between two different countries, now you figure it out how to do it, with gambling you have much more fun and its much easier.

No, I won't go with gambling, you will not make money from gambling. I choose for leveraged trading because I can have a chance to make money and I know it will be a big profit in that trade. But yes, I need more knowledge and skill to make money from leveraged trading and I am sure I can learn from many tutorials. And for the account, I think I only register on one exchanges and leveraged trading is different than arbitrage trading.
Knowledge and time are both important, and anyone who are in a mission of making money in trading are willing to spend time and effort to learn.
We should know it's different from gambling, so we know what to focus and what to consider as an entertainment.
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