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I think they just take other people's loses and pay off the winners and those who lose frequently, lose based on greed, while I know we can't really be certain about gambling but if you try to pick fewer games you have higher chances of winning, the smaller the odds the more chance you have to win.

I don't like to see it as tho my money is been returned to me, although  it might be true for some persons, most people have a good gambling history of more wins than loses, so this is not true for everyone.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.
That is 100% true you just have to calculate your losses and your winnings to get the fact that what you've lost is already greater than your winning but many of us will not realize it, we tend to forget all our losses and just remember or rejoice when we won, we don't want to accept the fact that your losses is greater than your winning.


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And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history.
You're getting it right again, for the record first-time winners in gambling will always come to try to win again and eventually lose their winnings the first time they gamble they triple their losses against their winnings because they are so motivated that they think that they are lucky and they have found a formula to win in gambling.

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Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

Casinos are profit-driven platforms they have a house edge if you analyze it, you'll come to the fact that the longer you play the longer your chances to lose, so if you're gambling for profit, be sure to call it a day when you make a profit, because if you continue thinking that you can still win, then that's the time that you're going to lose everything.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

It all depends, you can be gambling for long and be losing and winning, but when you now hit a jackpot and realized the highest amount of winning, this will be where we can determine whether you have just been returned your gambling money back to you, or you're still running under loss or finally that you have made a breakthrough in making profits through gambling, so this is a matter of how much you won, to the ration od what you have been spending on gambling right from onset, some gamblers could be that lucky of wining big on their very first attempt, even though this is not that common.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you. And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history. Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

Honestly, I completely agree with your statement, which is true that gamblers actually only revolve around their own money, as you said that the victory he managed to get is the amount of money he had previously lost or  means the amount that has been lost due to defeat and when they are lucky in the next session then it is just returning their money that has been lost, and on the other hand what about the newbie gamblers who just came and managed to get a big enough win? Obviously, the cycle and the next scenario will still remain the same as the statement above that when you manage to get a big win at the beginning of the engagement then isn't it very possible for you to put interest and higher expectations for the next session? Obviously, the logic is that everyone needs money and when he manages to get money from winning then they will really feel happy and usually they will think that "this is a place that earns".

In fact, it is actually because of the increase in interest that in the end, the casino will return to withdraw the amount of money they won before, or simply the casino will make  them experience a losing streak. So actually it doesn't matter what the initial scenario is whether in the first stage you immediately get a win or lose first, in the end it returns to the initial arrangement that the house will always be profitable.
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There is no way you will gamble and not lose money, there are few times to walk away from gambling to start calling yourself the most favoured gambler, that's if you try out gambling for the first time and you won very big, enough to make you walk away and never look back.

Some will have less wins in their gambling history and lose more money, even when they keep using small amount, by the time that years have passed they will realize that what they have won isn't up to the amount that they have lost in gambling.

Everyone won't have the same result in gambling, and it's possible that most people will have awful result, this is why gambling is not a reliable way of making some money, learning a skill online and rendering your services can net you better payments than gambling, but if you want to keep gambling you must keep using small amount.
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I feel like this can be valid for majority. Otherwise gambling businesses would end. They need to make more and more profits to stay there, working. So good gamblers win more than they lose. But most people are not good gamblers. I think people underestimate how great its to become experienced expert gambler. Most people think they will win at next game. Experts measure their every moves so they never totally lose.
Well, I think it still depends on the game you are playing. Let's categorise the gambling games. There are games that involve solely luck; what I mean is slot, Russian roulette, and many more. These are just those games that you could win through probability, and you can get that probability through luck or destiny. The other games involve the usage of skills and mind, or how good a thinker you are, like card games, bakarat, poker, and many more gambling games that raise the chances of winning through great thinking and how you can outsmart different players or the casino agent itself. But yeah, there is no guaranteed profit or wealth in gambling, as the money in that industry is cycle, which means you can't always expect to win, more like you will expect to lose. So better stay out of gambling if you don't have the capability to waste money from gambling.
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And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.
Well, it's probably a common thinking that your wins most times are partly from the money you have lost to the gambling site before. And we all know very well that the casino usually has been made to have a house edge which makes them win and we get to loss more. It's fine to have this kind of thinking but for someone who has always been on the win side wouldn't think much about this. And true from what you had said, a player who got to win his first few games in gambling would be more attracted or addicted to the games than someone who already lost on his first game. 
For some individuals, gambling can become addictive, leading to financial and personal problems. This is more reason we should only gamble that which we can afford to loss and avoid these kind of taught that will lead into something else entirely.
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I feel like this can be valid for majority. Otherwise gambling businesses would end. They need to make more and more profits to stay there, working. So good gamblers win more than they lose. But most people are not good gamblers. I think people underestimate how great its to become experienced expert gambler. Most people think they will win at next game. Experts measure their every moves so they never totally lose.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you. And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history. Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

I think that these type of persons exist but they fail to stop there and be happy that they got back more than they lost as when they get back such money it means that they have been playing for long enough that they continue to play.They do so with the assumption that finally luck is back on their side and they get a false sense that they are going to win even more.Unfortunately this leads to losing again what they won and this is a vicious cycle.
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If you want to know if gambling really brings money to you, you must record every deposits and how much money you make, then you will see if you're in profit or lose. But I believe most people won't do that because they will give many excuses e.g. lazy, time wasting, have a strong memory etc.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you. And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history. Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

I understand the logic behind your post, but you have to bear in mind two things:
1.It's close to impossible to have only wins and almost no loses in gambling. The gambling games are designed that way(and yes, some casinos have rigged games). If having more wins than loses was the norm in gambling, most casinos would simply go bankrupt.
2.Gambling isn't a way to make money. Gambling is just a fun escapist activity that, can help you forget your existential problems for a while.
And yes, gambling can cause you even more problems, when you get addicted, but addiction is something bad in general. You can get addicted to video games, porn, drugs, alcohol, etc.
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And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

You could say we aren't really winning but just recovering our losses when we win in gambling as we'll always have more losses than win but you can be on a safer side when you don't over gamble or over stake more money, you can use small wager to win big money and when you calculate how much money that you have lost and won, the margin won't be too big. Some individuals are totally on the losing side but they'll think that they're winning meanwhile they're losing so much money.

Some individuals are in profits, they may have lost while gambling but they have more wins that losses, some individuals are very lucky that when they gamble they win most times or when they have one big win it can cover for all the losses that they have previously had and also give them some profits. While gambling lets just enjoy ourselves as if you keep thinking you can win the house it isn't always very possible.
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In gambling, you win some, you lose some; not just in gambling alone but in life generally, so i don't think this is a problem for gamblers. The problem in gambling is when you gamble with an amount that you cannot afford to lose, or with money that should have been used for more important aspects of your life. As long as you gamble responsibly, you will find a good balance between what you win and what you lose, and you'll be just fine.

I agree with what you say, gamblers already understand that the gambling they do has a greater chance of losing, so they don't think too much about it and only enjoy their games - especially in games that are fully based on luck like slots, you can't expect that you will continue to win in this game. The most important thing for a gambler is how they can manage their bankroll in their gambling and arrange that it does not affect their finances too much.
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And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

that could be true. but maybe every gambler's case will be different in this regard. Some win at the start, perhaps the amount of their winnings exceeds the capital they have spent. but if it continues, I'm sure it will lead to defeat.
Some win but the amount spent is still greater than their winnings. the situation is the same I think. What I had in mind was, that when I was winning, more gamblers were losing. and when I lose and more gamblers also lose, some gamblers win.
they are in the gambling business, of course, they won't want to incur losses.
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The saying is true because if you look at it, it will be difficult for us to win gambling games. We will experience loss more often than we will win. But that doesn't stop people from continuing to gamble. They still want to try to get big wins from gambling.

That is why, even though we try hard at gambling, it is still difficult for us to win big. If we are aware of this, we should really reduce our gambling activities. We should only use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. It's better for us to try other things like working that can make money. That would be better for us.

We will also find it difficult to recover from the losses we have suffered. Gambling is not a place to make money. So we don't need to try too hard to make money but just to have fun. That is to prevent us from experiencing big loss.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you. And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history. Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.
In the circle of logic of gambling games that gamblers want to win in their gambling they always fall into the so-called addiction system made by the tug of war of winning the system and the ambition of the gambler who gets the win. If you think you realize that gambling is made to make gamblers lose and spend their money there. Do not deny that you gamble to waste money.

And even if you get a win it is your money that you have lost before, but there are some gamblers only then get a win and run away from gambling in the game. But certainly, the money you win is the money you may have lost in gambling but overall every gambler loses.
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This will always happen whether it is new gambler or gambler who has been familiar with gambling for long time and will never even be related to normal gamblers or gambling addicts who will still always result in losses that are much bigger than wins.
But I believe there are some people who have much higher winning percentage but very few because they are professionals who have above average skills and have successfully participated in and won various world poker tournaments.

Losing is guaranteed and no gambler can guarantee victory until they can have a history of much larger profit percentage.
Whatever the number of wins get, will definitely in the future or previously suffer quite large losses and in one win, if calculate the number, it will show greater loss.
A win is just small return for the gambler for loss that has occurred or will occur, so that is why saying gambling to make money is mindset that is not worth having.

I myself gambler who has had quite lot of sweet and bitter experiences and I have had many wins but I have also had far more losses.
If take everything into account then it is clear that it is big loss and of course this is disappointing result, but still continue gambling whatever the result because it is not about gain or loss but rather the enjoyment and pleasure that can be felt.
For those who gamble for fun, losing and winning are not important because what they are looking for is entertainment, and of course they will have their own limits in managing time and money.
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It seems like it's a cycle where you think you win but the truth is that losses outweigh the wins. It's important to recognize the risks, be cautious and aware of your losses, and gamble responsibly.
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This is probably true in general. I myself can be used as an example. I have won many times but I have also lost many times. But if only I am able to track all of those wins and loses over the years, I think I am net negative.

But there are definitely individual gamblers or bettors who are net positive. You have mentioned those newbies in gambling that have experienced beginner's luck. And then there are also those who won staggering amounts in lottery jackpots. They must be net positive also.
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you. And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people newly converts to the gambling system will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual adoration to gamble. And I don't think someone in the gambling industry has as a win win gambling history. Or you wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in gambling I have not seen that and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not to me that they only win and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.
You wont really be needing any complicated way of thinking about this and about that if you do really just that simply play gambling for fun. There's no such thing about giving back those loses to you or something
like this. There's no solid proof that this is really something like this that do really happen out.It would be always totally in random and house do always win at the end if we do talk about those strategic games then
there's no such thing about proofs or something like this that do tell about being a winner on next bet you do have. Everything is random and there's no such thing about returning to you.
House wont really be  that minding about those stuffs., If you are lucky then your lucky and you would surely win but if not then loses is there and inevitable.

Dont stress out yourself on being a winner or something that do talks about making money because once you do find yourself having those kind of problems then you would really be ending up on messing up yourself
when it comes to finances.
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