Topic: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam - page 3. (Read 2215 times)

I don't think you've been dishonest at all throughout this process.  You seem like a good guy that always tries to find the good in people.  This is a great characteristic in life, but it seems pretty clear that GP took advantage of you being a nice guy.  I'd be surprised if he put much effort at all into returning Jennis money.  He got her to ask you to send him money because he's a scammer, not because he tries to help people.  If he was actually in the business of helping people, there would be more than 1 person after 3+ years confirming that he actually helped them.

I hope you understand the reason everyone is giving him shit and ruining his reputation isn't just to be mean to someone.  It's to make it harder for him to scam people in the future.

@Get-Paid.com
Well, this is very mighty of you. First, you didn't know about GP and then when you tried to get help and he helped you out you believed him to be a really good person that does earn money by doing what he claims he does, that is not a bad impression, after all you got your money back.

However, after jeni thing happened and you saw here how people acted towards him you realized you wouldn't have invested with him and lost the money you fronted jeni with, you made your money back but jeni didn't so you now lost money because of him and you are still not blaming him for it.

At what point would you consider him a scammer if he doesn't pay you back, you know you paid for jeni and that didn't happened, you know h4ns deal as well and you are still not completely convinced he is a scammer, you just think he is doing his job and sometimes he wins and sometimes he losses instead of believing he scams people.

Then be ready for the counter suit, that's all I can say.

I (along w/ what I would assume to be many others) hold you legally liable for the damaging and false misleading claim that I have committed a criminal offence by putting a an ad in my signature.

For every negative trust reputation you left on my profile, you owe me $10,000. So $60,000. Bitcoin or cheque?

After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?


Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Glad to see you cutted my quote:

"However, at this point, with the claims he's made (for example):"..."I just don't think the guys morals/business acumen is well enough for the general gaming population to do business with."

AKA, no one will EVER trust you again unless they are severely misinformed.

I already announced that I will hold h4ns liable for the criminal offenses he committed and the damage his false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused!

Glad to see that thereafter my credibility on bitcointalk.org will be better!


Please show this lots and plenty of evidence (based on real world laws and regulations)?

Can you merge all the GP threads into one? It's hard to follow up with it like this.

Yes, I have spoken and communicated with the lawyer who resolved the case, once again I have no intention to lie about it. I hope you believe me.



Yes, I am not happy with the result and thus I said I wouldn't invest again, however unlike h4ns I did not get a guarantee that if I invest I would be able to get this money back thus I do not accuse GP of any wrongdoing here - I was assured by GP he believes the case should be resolved quickly - in practice it doesn't seem to be the case now ... I invested 0.2344 BTC but BTC was worth $3413 back at that time so the investment was $800 and not $1,000 just to clarify - proof:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5015809be97eec9dbacf9eb8912a74ed94ecc145a5085091a2f7ba23c1898c58

I am not upset with GP and I cannot accuse him for any wrongdoing because I know he tried to help Jenni, but her case is more complicated, and I cannot disclose more information - simply because I don't have more information and I said if GP or Jenni wish to add more information here - they will see this thread (Jenni was informed, I told her she could add more info if she wishes).

Regarding h4ns - I do agree with all of you - this is not okay by any means whatsoever, regardless of who's right and who's wrong - the refusal to compromise or reach a settlement that will make both parties happy - is in my opinion unacceptable. Businesses must learn to compromise - otherwise if a business refuses to compromise then it shows what the business really is ... and I do call GP and h4ns to sit together and work things out - for the sake of doing good for all of us.

@Get-Paid,

I think most would agree that it's pretty clear that you're a good guy without any ulterior motives or anything.  Just want to make it clear that I'm not trying to attack or discredit you or anything.  I don't think you're aware of the whole story when it comes to GP though.

GP has been around for over 3 years.  In that time he's made countless ridiculous claims, countless ridiculous attacks, been caught in countless lies.  

Over 3 years.  And you're literally the only person that has come forward with a good experience.There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.  However, they never want to come forward and share what happened to warn others.  It's obvious he's stopping you from saying anything.  He obviously pressured Jenny to stop talking.  And he's claiming to sue h4ns for 20,000 Euro for opening a scam accusation against him. This is his excuse for not returning the 210 Euro.  He thinks it's ok to just deduct it from the 20k!


In the mean time he's constantly posting in every Casino thread on this forum, attacking the casino and advertising services such as " [X CASINO] is laundering money! Recover all your losses from the last 5 years with Game-Protect!"

This is not a misunderstanding or a bad decision.  This is a brazen scam.  He's stealing money and then trying to silence his victims so that he can find more victims. And if you don't stay quiet, he will openly threaten you.



Anyway, there are a billion examples out there but I don't want to write a book.  



Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?






So, GP put you in contact with Jenni around December 2018
You were somehow convinced to give GP about ~$1,000 to help Jeni recover her funds, make a little for yourself (and GP also would get a cut).
March Rolls around and GP is ghosting Jeni.  
Here we are almost a year later.  

Just think about all of that man.  



There's an investigation thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5184364 . Anonymous tips have been pretty helpful getting us as far as we have.

I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.

However, at this point, with the claims he's made (for example):
- Donations means he doesn't have to promise anything in exchange
- Emails aren't valid in court/written contracts
etc

I just don't think the guys morals/business acumen is well enough for the general gaming population to do business with.

I think what he may have set out to do is great. His intentions at the start were probably great. But just the way he talks about the Bitcoin community in general is problematic. (See https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/ for example). Calling us paid shills simply because we have signatures (including people who don't even run signatures). We're potential clients, and a lot of us could have raised GP up in the sense of giving a lot more trust to his business. I, for one, would have promoted GP and recommended it to gamblers needing help IF he actually acted legitimately and professionally, and I think a lot of the forum would have done the same.

I would make the same criticisms of Game-Protect with or without a signature. No one has ever mandated I say something specific with regards to any case (and if they did, I would rightfully decline and leave the sig campaign); and I've even criticized specific actions from casinos I've had in my signature in the past (saying things should have been done differently). I think to assume that everyone who runs a signature is somehow a paid shill and is instantly against you was wrong from the get-go.

I, for one, would have been happy to see a consumer protection agency for gamers who took a professional response to claims and criticisms and actually acted like a business should be acting.

I think from a PR perspective, GP's entire time on this forum has been a massive blunder for him, and it's time to own up, make h4ns whole and just simply say sorry.

I would just also echo what TwitchySeal said, you may have a case where it went well, but there's cases where GP has clearly messed up, and I fear the list may be larger (more than just 2) but people may be afraid to speak out due to the tactics GP uses against his victims (h4ns as a prime example of this, stating that he owes him $10,000 in defamation fees).

He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled. Nonetheless, I did try SBR, CasinoMeister, AskGamblers and no one helped me with the case - in the AskGamblers website I even spoke directly to the bookmaker who just ignored my claims - so GameProtect was helpful in getting this resolved ... prior to it I've also contacted some lawyers in Curacao myself and no one was willing to help or was but with a high cost - so GP's resolution was cost effective and it was effective as well.

Now - moving forward - I have no idea how this thread turned into something else, something that if I had to see this thread now - I would probably avoid dealing with GP because of all the warnings and negativity here, and I see him fighting the claims that you're raising against him ... I also think that he should settle the issue with h4ns in some way - just reach a settlement, I am huge believer in compromise and in doing the right thing.

I don't know where this is all going from here, I feel bad for all sides - I think GameProtect is genuinely trying to offer a genuine service, but on the same time he cannot have an open dispute with another user and leave it like that - besides h4ns' case there is the only other case of Jenni here, but she hasn't given any update here and I'm not sure if she would feel comfortable doing so because she is not looking to be attacked. Asking questions is fine, attacking isn't.

He never used me as a reference for other users for direct contact, everything was posted here so he could point whoever he wants to the thread here, I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine - she used a casino website where the owners have simply left the company and cannot be reached, I don't know what will happen from here, the only thing I can say is that h4ns in my opinion should be paid or at least GP and him should agree on something, and in regards to Jenni's case - I have no idea what will happen with it ... If you're asking if I would go ahead and invest in another case - probably not, because the investment hasn't proven itself - but I took it as an investment with some risks involved and known in advance, so I don't accuse GP of any wrongdoing .... in fact I think all the red flags and the huge amount of negativity that he gets - is in some way unfair - I still gave him a positive feedback and I haven't changed it because I stand behind what I had experienced in general - however if the h4ns' case won't get resolved I'd get upset - why? it's not even my case, but as I said I believe in justice and in doing the right thing. That's why I also called GP to settle this with h4ns. Just get it settled, the amount is not huge neither.

In regards to Jenni - I am happy with whatever happens, I still won't accuse GP for any wrongdoing here - but those who do so with a click of a button should really bring some more credible evidence into the table - otherwise why is he getting so much negativity if the only 2 "pending" cases are h4ns and Jenni's? It doesn't make any sense, by all means this is equal to so many red flags - UNLESS - the issue with h4ns won't get resolved, and I do agree this MUST be resolved, it cannot stay like this. If GP doesn't understand he needs to SETTLE things with h4ns then I'd truly feel sorry for his business - and this is a case I am not even involved with, but for the sake of your business, GP, you must SETTLE with h4ns - otherwise you're just shooting yourself here in the leg.

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.

Sorry, I wasn't aware you posted this question until now .... I am not aware of any updates until now, I've asked the OP to update and provide only facts without any accusations as I'm not interested in anyone accusing the OP or GP for any wrongdoing, so it should be only facts, assuming she is happy to disclose the facts here... other than that I have no other updates.

Thank you for believing in the real truth.


Yes, I also agree with that - I've just told GP he should definitely change his netiquette here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/game-protect-online-gaming-consumer-protection-1535816



I've already explained that I signed an NDA and part of the NDA (=Non Disclosure Agreement) is to not disclose the details of the settlement, do you want to see a bank transfer slip showing a payment was made? This I can show you but I cannot show the other things here. Nonetheless at least some other good members like the one quoted above does believe this, I have no intention of lying about it, none whatsoever.

In my opinion, not only tough control on the part of users, but also a tough attitude towards me to all incomprehensible situations should beat this business.  Trust is clearly lost to many of us.

Man, she lost all I think, this is the testimonial for us which don't trust any of his service. He even floating around asking for legiminate or questioning on license of casinos here in this forum, while his identify is anynomous.

@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?

I feel for OP, and for you and do not approve of all the victim shaming going on in this thread.  You've found your way to a really weird crazy corner of the internet that is far from user friendly for newcomers.

OP should absolutely not feel bad about making this thread.  This thread is not hurting her chances of getting paid.  Scammer 101 is always keep your victims from warning other future victims.  That's why he attacked her and then went back and deleted all of his posts in this thread.

I understand you will remain hopeful for now, but suggest getting some sort of timeline out of him if you can, and if you can't then set one for yourself to see some sort of concrete evidence that he's doing more than just harass the casino with empty threats.  It seems like his only play is to string you along for as long as possible, pressuring you to say nice things about him, or at least not say bad things.  

Please document everything.

And when the deadline passes, please post everything (with sensitive info edited out obviously).

That is categorically incorrect, and it's surprising you who claims to understand law would actually believe that.

It's not a "criminal offence" to judge someone on a set of beliefs. But then again, you think absolutely everything is a criminal offence. Being a critic to you is a criminal offence, so the bar is set rather low.

What actually could be a criminal offence (or at-least civil) is your defamation of users suggesting they are criminals w/o trial.

Give it enough time, and you might actually see a class-action defamation case targeted towards you on your hands.

tell me on what planet it's against the law to have an opinion please. I'm very curious