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hero member
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November 30, 2019, 07:18:28 AM
There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.
Please show the lots and plenty of evidence (based on real world laws and regulations)?
legendary
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I never attacked you, you blatant lying piece of shit!

GP, you are the piece of shit - not her.  Go crawl back into the hole you came from and stop preying on vulnerable casino victims.  




Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.

I think you should thank her for sharing her story, the forum didn't have many cases of actual experience with GP, and in my opinion it's truly sad to see a customer being treated like this ... being called a piece of **** - maybe she wasn't the one making the deposit (aka donation), I did it, but I did it as an investment and far as I was concerned Jenni should have been treated with professionalism and with respect just as if she made the deposit (aka donation) by herself.

I think the forum should thank her for being honest, I also thank her, I also thanked Game Protect for helping me in the past, I would always appreciate it but nonetheless I am very disappointed to see how things are now ... very sad ...


He did thank her.  And I thank her as well.  Sharing personal experience with these kind of services is always good for the community.
sr. member
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Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.

I think you should thank her for sharing her story, the forum didn't have many cases of actual experience with GP, and in my opinion it's truly sad to see a customer being treated like this ... being called a piece of **** - maybe she wasn't the one making the deposit (aka donation), I did it, but I did it as an investment and far as I was concerned Jenni should have been treated with professionalism and with respect just as if she made the deposit (aka donation) by herself.

I think the forum should thank her for being honest, I also thank her, I also thanked Game Protect for helping me in the past, I would always appreciate it but nonetheless I am very disappointed to see how things are now ... very sad ...
legendary
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But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
I never attacked you, you blatant lying piece of shit!

My support just ended here and you can handle your claim with the lawyer directly!

Uh, I just had to quote this in case if by the far off insane piece of chance GP should ever have another client again in the future... they should know exactly what they're dealing with.

What's weird is they edited their post to include the words "blatantly lying piece of shit". You don't see that every day!
sr. member
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Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start. 

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.

Sorry to hear about all this, I've asked Game Protect to refund h4ns money that was owed to him ... I explained to him why in my opinion it's important to do so ... but unfortunately it never happened, not until now at least.

Now I see that your case is pretty lost - it's very sad .... you don't have to be sorry for me not winning this one, I've learned my lesson ... I'm very disappointed to see what has happened with Game Protect - it's truly sad ... a business that could have been genuine, robust, provide help for those in need - looks like it's all in shatters now,  after seeing 2 unsuccessful cases (yours and h4ns) this looks bad.

Game Protect - again I appreciate your help in the past that you helped me win a case, however I think moving forward it's just not working, you cannot leave your customers stranded like this ... looking for any little detail or reason to blame your customers like you did with Jenny is also unscrupulous ... she made this thread initially after not hearing for several months from you ... how can you explain that she hasn't received proper replies? In your line of business ignoring emails is okay? Selectively choosing when to reply is okay? Or telling a lawyer to not reply to a customer because she went to the forum is okay? (and she initially went to the forum without causing any defamation or issues to you, I even tried to explain the situation as shown in this thread).

As far as I'm concerned I feel sorry for the customers, I also feel sorry for you for not going through the right path ... this is just not right but what else can I do to try and explain that the right path (for any business whatsoever) is working WITH customers and not AGAINST them.
legendary
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Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start.  

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.

Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.
newbie
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Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start. 

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.
hero member
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Real world laws and regulations stand above brain wash nonsense shit! Smiley

Precisely.

Real world laws and regulations DO stand above brain wash nonsense shit... your brain wash nonsense shit to be exact.
hero member
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Real world laws and regulations stand above brain wash nonsense shit! Smiley
legendary
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Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

Right, and like I said in the other thread, if theymos supported you and not our decision to render your email to h4ns a written contract, then we would have heard about it by now.
hero member
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You destroyed your own reputation by conducting your business like a vengefully insane person and now there's nobody to blame but yourself.
Now I understand the schizophrenia of your extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account!

You is I, sun is moon and war is peace! Cheesy

You abuse the trust system with knowingly supporting a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019 and then you claim that I destroyed my reputation! Roll Eyes

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.
legendary
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A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam
Is the scam accusation proven and true?

Did Gregi1 create a red flag causing

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above all CEX.io threads and causing Warning: Trade with exteme caution! shown at the public profile?

You're missing the point. The point is that acting professionally pays off. If a business maintains professionalism when dealing with criticism, they are far more likely to be successful in the future than if they act like you, which is anything but professional. You destroyed your own reputation by conducting your business like a vengefully insane person and now there's nobody to blame but yourself.
hero member
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A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam
Is the scam accusation proven and true?

Did Gregi1 create a red flag causing

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above all CEX.io threads and causing Warning: Trade with exteme caution! shown at the public profile?
sr. member
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A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam - proof:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cexio-scam-2174542

Did CEX.io ask the user to compensate them for damages? The thread is so far a 10 page long, and CEX is actively participating in this thread alleviating the doubts and hesitations that customers or potential customers might have on their business.

That's a good business practice - to resolve issues.
hero member
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The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ Smiley

It was €20,000 - how did it jump to €100,000 ?
This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254 published false and misleading red flag causes

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above all my threads and causes Warning: Trade wth extreme caution! shown at my public profile and causes a ton of false and misleading feedbacks on my trust page!

The longer it is publicly shown the more online casino victims will get misled!

Alone in this case the potential damage is 35% of 20 BTC = 7 BTC = USD 63,000:

If you have proof of your win, then you can engage the foundation / law firm cooperating with Game Protect.

We are specialized for Curacao online casinos and successfully enforced several claims.

Game Protect also warns about the MegaDice scam since 2017 MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared!

I am sorry, but the trust rating of your account is not the best.


Anyway criticism is something every business gets, it's part of life-
Publicly false and misleading claiming that Game Protect scammed a customer for 210€ is the criminal offense of defamation and not criticizing!

Publicly extorting Game Protect to make a public statement is the criminal offense of extortion and not criticizing!

@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.
sr. member
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The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ Smiley

It was €20,000 - how did it jump to €100,000 ?

Anyway criticism is something every business gets, it's part of life- our business too gets criticism - will we fine a user of ours by not processing his withdrawal for criticizing our site? no.
hero member
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My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ Smiley
sr. member
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My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

In my case I wasn't able to resolve the issue by myself and Game Protect helped me get compensated.

HOWEVER,

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.

In my opinion a business needs to be straightforward with its customers, and when there is a lack of transparency or breach of trust - then that raises a red flag.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
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He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled.
Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?
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My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.
hero member
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@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.
Please show the email?
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