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Chair of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Gary Gensler sit with Bloomberg for 20 minutes to answer some deep questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGpPmDJKfM
SEC’s Gensler on the 2024 Agenda

"We do everything within the law."
Alright, in your own point of view. There's obviously some attacks that doesn't look right because he keeps on digging against them even though it's clear that there's nothing harm that was done.

Like what one of the comments in that link said, it could've been better if the interviewer ask questions that's a bit hard hitting questions.

Annmarie: Does it feel political to you?
Gary: Well, (chuckle).
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I don't know who he is looking at his left side but he takes a lot of time there. I think the helper is there whenever he pauses and can't think of an answer.
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That is how the SEC rolls and why one of their own resigned recently.
It is run crooked and by a crook called GG. Grin

SEC has failed in their attempt to drag down Ripple Labs in their case that had lasted years:

https://x.com/s_alderoty/status/1802093640082133027

And recently had lost their case against the Ethereum Foundation on having it declared a security aswell.

Their days are numbered.
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It's a step in the right direction for social media influencers being held accountable for shilling scams. The next part I will share is opinion, however it could be considered that these influencers and celebrities have been shilling scam products for decades, but because these are cryptocurrencies which the SEC considers securities, that is why the penalties and consequences apply.
Those who are social media influencers should surely be responsible in how they portrait any cryptocurrency they are promoting.

Just look what happened recently with the one known to be in a relationship with the Kardashian's what feels like a whole other lifetime ago:

Caitlyn Jenner falls victim to cryptocurrency exit scam

https://crypto.news/caitlyn-jenner-falls-victim-to-cryptocurrency-exit-scam

Seems that someone used them to launch a memecoin in their name without their consent on the Solana network:
https://decrypt.co/232565/crypto-promoter-who-launched-caitlyn-jenner-solana-meme-coin



That's why it's difficult when the name of a famous influencer is used with bad intentions just to cheat people and get funds from the victims. The worst part is that before the influencers found out that his name was used to scam people, millions of dollars were already obtained from various investors.

And what's worse is that his reputation and name were damaged and tarnished when he was not at all naive to what the scammers did. Your name has already been destroyed, and then there is anger among the people there because of the name that was used to scam.
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Holy mother of everything!
Who Pushed the SEC to Drop the Ethereum Lawsuit, and Why Is Gary Gensler Still Targeting Ripple (XRP)?
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The SEC has closed its investigation into Ethereum, deciding not to pursue charges that ETH sales were securities transactions.
The XRP community is outraged, accusing the SEC of double standards and biased treatment.

SEC Ends Ethereum 2.0 Investigation
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Consensys announced on Tuesday that the SEC’s Enforcement Division has concluded its investigation into Ethereum 2.0 without bringing any charges. The company shared the news on Twitter, highlighting that the SEC would not pursue allegations that sales of ETH constituted securities transactions. This development follows the SEC’s approval of Ethereum spot ETFs last month, a move that Consensys argued underscored ETH’s status as a commodity rather than a security.

https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/who-pushed-the-sec-to-drop-the-ethereum-lawsuit-and-why-is-gary-gensler-still-targeting-ripple-xrp/
But it has not reflected with the value of Ethereum yet.

Ripple Labs is not happy though. They have been fighting against SEC for a long time and this probably hurts the feelings of those who are supporting them.
But I think this is still a great news. Perhaps the chance for SEC dropping the cases of XRP is near too and that will be the time to celebrate.
But who knows, if it's Gary Gensler, there's uncertainty with his decisions and if he really have a beef with XRP, it will take a long time unless someone fires that guy.
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I found this today. Mark Cuban might be right about this one.

Gary Gensler could ‘literally cost Joe Biden the election’ — Mark Cuban

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The billionaire investor also intimated that any political aspirations Gensler had would amount to nothing due to the SEC chair’s stance against cryptocurrency.

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At the time, he said that crypto voters “will be heard this election,” referring to the 2024 U.S. presidential election. He also warned that “If Joe Biden loses, there is a good chance you will be able to thank Gary Gensler and the New York SEC.”
https://cointelegraph.com/news/gary-gensler-could-literally-cost-joe-biden-cryptocurrency-us-presidential-election-mark-cuban

Crypto voters will be heard. Yes, I am sure of that.
And while Gary Gensler is so busy attacking crypto influencers, big crypto trading companies, and other that have something to do with cryptocurrencies in the US it will get a bad vibes to Joe Biden.
But it is said that Biden is looking for a way to use cryptocurrencies as means for donation in his campaign. I doubt many will be offering their help.
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I don't know what the US government are trying to proof out with all these they are doing concerning crypto regulations and I don't see it all working, how can a person make promotions and the next you do is to issue a charge against her because she's not disclosing more informations concerning the deal she had with them to the public, now it's just simple to know that they have also collected their own share of the money since they make a charge against her, had it been she's not a celebrity, what could have happened.
If you are solely going on the first post then i imagine you are talking about that Kardashian case which is old by now.
They had settled and she paid the fines just so to get the case closed.

But if you are talking about the latest celebrity to get intangled with the SEC for promoting cryptocurrencies then you are probably referring to this one with Iggy Azalea who was at the NYSE earlier this week trying to promote her own rendition of a memecoin:
This is Iggy Azalea Rapper, mother, OF creator, turned crypto founder Here’s the untold story behind her $200M celebrity meme coin. Full story breakdowns in this post on X:
https://x.com/PixSorcerer/status/1799285580305662194

Another one who the SEC should be considering to look at is Andrew Tate who recently has become very vocal about bitcoin and has created his own memecoin which is the crosshairs of Gensler for possible Insider Trading charges:
Andrew Tate Crypto Scammer? Bitcoin Rebound and then Dump. $MOTHER Save Us. Iggy Azalea Coin dump Insider Trading
https://www.youtube.com/live/6QIPzqP8ZG4

https://cryptoslate.com/bubblemaps-alleges-insider-trading-in-memecoins-promoted-by-andrew-tate-iggy-azalea
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I don't know what the US government are trying to proof out with all these they are doing concerning crypto regulations and I don't see it all working, how can a person make promotions and the next you do is to issue a charge against her because she's not disclosing more informations concerning the deal she had with them to the public, now it's just simple to know that they have also collected their own share of the money since they make a charge against her, had it been she's not a celebrity, what could have happened.
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The SEC and Old Gary is looking at this post and setting their sites on another network other than ethereum now!

https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1796371778673184814

Once you get larger and get a mass following such as solana has you will eventually get targeted for regulation.
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This is also where I side with them. Keeping the cryptocurrency community clean not taking everything down.
Scams, rug pull projects, and more are happening in the crypto space and they are not seen because they are just small projects. Yet, these developers are still making a ton because they keep on pulling the plug whenever they got the money and then make another to do it over and over again.
In this case, a celebrity advertised it so it was seen. What about the victims with average investments that becomes victim of low key projects that ain't seen on the spotlight? I think SEC's actions should be on this matter and not trying to break down legitimate projects that already  made their roots in the industry.
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It's a step in the right direction for social media influencers being held accountable for shilling scams. The next part I will share is opinion, however it could be considered that these influencers and celebrities have been shilling scam products for decades, but because these are cryptocurrencies which the SEC considers securities, that is why the penalties and consequences apply.
Those who are social media influencers should surely be responsible in how they portrait any cryptocurrency they are promoting.

Just look what happened recently with the one known to be in a relationship with the Kardashian's what feels like a whole other lifetime ago:

Caitlyn Jenner falls victim to cryptocurrency exit scam

https://crypto.news/caitlyn-jenner-falls-victim-to-cryptocurrency-exit-scam

Seems that someone used them to launch a memecoin in their name without their consent on the Solana network:
https://decrypt.co/232565/crypto-promoter-who-launched-caitlyn-jenner-solana-meme-coin

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Rumors are that after the ETH ETF decision today/tomorrow, gary will be fired
Why? Ethereum ETFs are demanded from corporations like BlackRock, Grayscale and Bitwise. Since BlackRock is involved here, Ethereum ETFs are guaranteed. I think that Gary will be fired and even worse if he doesn't approve what BlackRock wants.

Expecting ETH to reach atleast 5k by monday  Grin
Will it really reach 5K by Monday? Bitcoin ETFs got approved but nothing gamechanger happened after that. The whole price boosting moment was the time before SEC had to announced ETF approval, this was the moment when price was significantly going up, after the approval it stabilized. I believe that long-term, this will significantly help the price but because of Bitcoin ETF experience, I think that ETH will not reach 5K by Monday but slowly, in some weeks or months, that's guaranteed if SEC approves Ethereum ETFs.
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I've beard about this, and honestly I am on SEC's side, the fact of the matter is that these celebrities advertise cryptocurrencies which are downright scams, ever remember Logan Paul's Crypto Zoo scam? The progression of events had it not been for the intervention of SEC this time, is eerily similar to these.

As SickDayIn has said this is a step in the right direction when it comes to holding these celebrities accountable for shilling scam projects, many a times in the past, these guys get away with the money they bagged from the sponsorship unscathed because they are picked out by the justice system, either because it don't deem them liable of anything given the fact that they do this for a service, or because they are powerful enough to withhold justice.

Couldn't bare to see these people using their influences and power to scam people anymore, and then go out on TV to blame poor people on why they are poor. We need more of this SEC honestly, and none of the bullshit you guys have been spewing out lately.
I'm on SEC's side as well about this. But what I'm more worried about are the people who are buying some shitcoin just because someone like Kim Kardashian told them to. I just don't understand, if you are looking for an advice about investing your money, why would you even consider Kim Kardashian as an option? What type of financial knowledge is she supposed to have? Just because she's famous? And let's not forget that at the end of the day she's famous for being famous, that's it. She is the perfect example of how our society is falling apart.
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https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/05/23/gensler-says-stay-tuned-on-us-secs-decision-on-eth-etf/

Rumors are that after the ETH ETF decision today/tomorrow, gary will be fired

Expecting ETH to reach atleast 5k by monday  Grin
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With the charging of social media influencer Kim Kardashian with promoting a crypto security to her many followers on all her socials, the SEC's head officer Gary Gensler has put a commercial comprising a couple of minutes as most cryptocurrency advocates would say a smear campaign against crypto as a whole with the likes of someone who looks like Jake Paul to prove a point.
With that point being they had successfully charged many celebrities in the past of doing the same thing Mrs. Kardashian had done on her twitter/facebook/instagram.
Those being Floyd Mayweather, DJ Khalid and Steven Segal.

source: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/10/03/us-sec-charges-kim-kardashian-for-promoting-ethereummax

Here is the link to this video posted on his twitter about four hours ago:
https://twitter.com/GaryGensler/status/1576897535427448832
The official tweet from SEC on this case against Kim Kardashian:
https://twitter.com/SECGov/status/1576904918413312001

source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/03/sec-kardashian-crypto

Squawkbox from CNBC had been tweeting just this story several times within the last four hours (I counted 5 seperate tweets, why?!) but here is the first one that they show as "Breaking news!" Roll Eyes
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1576900024201609217



Great news for all of cryptocurrencies about now, huh, wouldn't you agree?
This is going to drive away mainstream investors and have an affect for the rest of the Crypto Winter that we are all in right now.

I've beard about this, and honestly I am on SEC's side, the fact of the matter is that these celebrities advertise cryptocurrencies which are downright scams, ever remember Logan Paul's Crypto Zoo scam? The progression of events had it not been for the intervention of SEC this time, is eerily similar to these.

As SickDayIn has said this is a step in the right direction when it comes to holding these celebrities accountable for shilling scam projects, many a times in the past, these guys get away with the money they bagged from the sponsorship unscathed because they are picked out by the justice system, either because it don't deem them liable of anything given the fact that they do this for a service, or because they are powerful enough to withhold justice.

Couldn't bare to see these people using their influences and power to scam people anymore, and then go out on TV to blame poor people on why they are poor. We need more of this SEC honestly, and none of the bullshit you guys have been spewing out lately.
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It's a step in the right direction for social media influencers being held accountable for shilling scams. The next part I will share is opinion, however it could be considered that these influencers and celebrities have been shilling scam products for decades, but because these are cryptocurrencies which the SEC considers securities, that is why the penalties and consequences apply.
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I hate to say it but I do agree with you. There will be nothing to change the heart of the SEC Chairman. He is against Bitcoin and most of the cryptocurrencies but I doubt he will say that he supports one of them. Never, in my imagination.
The only thing we could do is support those who are trying to clear their names when they are attacked by them. It's too obvious, the only reason they keep on halting everything is because the chairman is against it.
They really should cut the biases and keep an objective view since they are deciding for a lot of people, a country even and they shouldn’t let their personal opinion get in the way of making things better.
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But what if he is gone? I know that there is a need to an opposing team for a company to be better in terms of everything but when it's too one sided, something must also be done.
First of all it is not a company but a government agency which means there are still people who are in a higher position that could remove or maintain the chairman. An opposition would need to work his or her way up to the position and prove that he or she is more capable than the one in charge.
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I hate to say it but I do agree with you. There will be nothing to change the heart of the SEC Chairman. He is against Bitcoin and most of the cryptocurrencies but I doubt he will say that he supports one of them. Never, in my imagination.
The only thing we could do is support those who are trying to clear their names when they are attacked by them. It's too obvious, the only reason they keep on halting everything is because the chairman is against it.
But what if he is gone? I know that there is a need to an opposing team for a company to be better in terms of everything but when it's too one sided, something must also be done.
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There's just bad news when everyone gets ready to wait for the price to be applied. I think that the alleged violation is still not completely true, because before this came, Robinhood also had good faith and was pro-active in coordinating with the SEC for regulatory clarity. The hope is that we can quickly find common ground and the market will return to normal if not many more will come forward with the same problem.
That is the thing, there was no regulatory clarity at the time when it came to cryptocurrencies.
The SEC are capitalizing on this vulnerability from all these companies they are targeting.
Does it seem like Gensler is prosecuting them on a level playing field with these filings and cases against cryptocurrency?
I think not.

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Yes, I read about that. Robinhood seems to be abiding on every meeting. 16 meetings. CEO of Robinhood Vlad Tenev is frustrated with what SEC is doing to them.

And on other news about our topic guy.
SEC Chair Gary Gensler: ‘Crypto is a small piece of our market, BUT…’
https://ambcrypto.com/sec-chair-gary-gensler-crypto-is-a-small-piece-of-our-market-but/


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“Crypto is a small piece of our overall markets. But, it’s an outsized piece of the scams and frauds and problems in the markets.”
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“You have a whole central bank, and support for one currency, generally per economic region, which is not the case with Bitcoin.”
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“Bitcoin has the leading market share in ransomware, and that’s publicly known. It’s the token of choice for ransomware.”

They are targetting big companies which is obvious from the names of the attacked ones. Coinbase, Kraken, Consensys, and now Robinhood. They do not even try to look at how they can protect the other investors who are victims of scams from tokens that are created literally for evil intentions.
Those big guys will always follow the rules to keep their companies intact while the small ones are the ones who are doing the hit and run and they don't even see it.
Robinhood has abide by their rules from the very start yet they are still in Gensler's crosshairs.

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“Crypto is a small piece of our overall markets. But, it’s an outsized piece of the scams and frauds and problems in the markets.”
That statement from the SEC's chairman tells you everything you need to know.
Nothing will change this guys mind no matter how narrow it is towards all cryptocurrencies.
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Yes, I read about that. Robinhood seems to be abiding on every meeting. 16 meetings. CEO of Robinhood Vlad Tenev is frustrated with what SEC is doing to them.

And on other news about our topic guy.
SEC Chair Gary Gensler: ‘Crypto is a small piece of our market, BUT…’
https://ambcrypto.com/sec-chair-gary-gensler-crypto-is-a-small-piece-of-our-market-but/


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“Crypto is a small piece of our overall markets. But, it’s an outsized piece of the scams and frauds and problems in the markets.”
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“You have a whole central bank, and support for one currency, generally per economic region, which is not the case with Bitcoin.”
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“Bitcoin has the leading market share in ransomware, and that’s publicly known. It’s the token of choice for ransomware.”

They are targetting big companies which is obvious from the names of the attacked ones. Coinbase, Kraken, Consensys, and now Robinhood. They do not even try to look at how they can protect the other investors who are victims of scams from tokens that are created literally for evil intentions.
Those big guys will always follow the rules to keep their companies intact while the small ones are the ones who are doing the hit and run and they don't even see it.
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There's just bad news when everyone gets ready to wait for the price to be applied. I think that the alleged violation is still not completely true, because before this came, Robinhood also had good faith and was pro-active in coordinating with the SEC for regulatory clarity. The hope is that we can quickly find common ground and the market will return to normal if not many more will come forward with the same problem.
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