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August 13, 2014, 05:12:18 AM
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Just wanted to let everyone on this thread know, my burning man camp ("Sextant Camp") has been promoting the use of Bitcoin as a funding/donation platform for Burning Man art installations.  The idea is to demonstrate this in hopes that the burning man organization might consider switching to Bitcoin if they truly believe in an open non-profit system.

We are also building a 17,000 watt tesla coil, with a 350' zip-line terminating right under the coils.  And a skybar too! 

On June 14th, 2014, during the annual "Burning Man Pre-Compression" event we handed out cards educating people on Bitcoin software (while also asking for donations to fund our efforts).

Here is a picture of the cards we handed out:
http://www.sextantcamp.com/bitcoin_card.jpg

I invite anyone to stop by (located at 3:15 and Esplanade for the 2014 year)

http://www.sextantcamp.com
member
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Thanks! This instills belief in the rest of us that bitcoin is, indeed, a very valuable currency
legendary
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Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.

I meant that Bitcoin would make ticketmaster not needed. Ticketmaster ia basically a monopoly when it comes to ticket sales. Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.


Burning Man is a big money making business controlled by Black Rock City LLC. Why don't you contact them and see of they would be interested in direct sales for Bitcoin. The way the Org covers up all the deaths, rapes and accidents at BM every year I'm sure they are all about profit. Just tell them a way they can increase their profit and it should be easy to sell them on it.

http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/people/project_bio.html

Please link to credible evidence that Black Rock City LLC is literally covering up "rapes and deaths" at Burning Man, or consider retracting your (potentially) reckless slander.

If this isn't enough please let me know. There are plenty more. LOL

http://nationalreport.net/burning-man-2013-pedophiles-sex-offenders/
http://www.popularresistance.org/police-crack-down-on-burning-man-unprecedented-show-of-force/
http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/a-rape-in-black-rock-city/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vanessa-pinto/burning-man-rape_b_1897689.html
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/09/burning_man_rape_assault.php
http://burners.me/2012/09/19/the-dark-side-of-burning-man-rape-on-the-playa-sf-weekly/
http://www.consentculture.com/2013/10/08/radical-entitlement-rape-culture-at-burning-man/
http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2013/09/26/rape-culture-consent-and-grabbing-100-boobs-at-burning-man-2013/
http://sfburnergrrrl.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/date-raped-at-burning-man/
http://sfburnergrrrl.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/how-many-women-will-be-sexually-assaulted-at-burning-man-this-year/
http://boingboing.net/2013/04/26/howto-die-at-burning-man.html
https://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?t=61945
http://funologist.org/2012/02/17/the-dark-side-of-burning-man/
http://burners.me/2013/01/10/burning-man-sucks-10-reasons-to-stay-home/
http://thingsnotfoundonwikipedia.blogspot.com/2013/05/deaths-at-burning-man.html
https://www.facebook.com/BurningMan/posts/10150447451032168
http://burners.me/2013/04/25/9-ways-to-die-at-burning-man/
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!

Google created the burning man

Its a strange cult or religion.


Burning Man was started by one or more Libertarians (it is not a cult or religion), and I'm not aware of them working for Google. The first ones were extremely close to Silicon Valley, so I suppose it is possible.

Edit: I did a quick search and burning man was started by...
"Larry Harvey conceives first Burning Man. Larry and Jerry James construct improvised wooden figure and burn it" 
Saying "Google created the burning man" does not appear to be accurate at all.
newbie
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This might just be the deciding factor for me to attend this year.

Do it, ive been going for three years and don't regret a single moment of it. Hell, I'd even be down to run some sort of btc event out there to spread the word if you want.

It fits in so well with BM culture, but lands in an awkward spot by being a money/value/commodity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man#Decommodification)

It will play a bigger role out there this year, and I am sure there will be more discussions about it. PM me about your event, I would love to make something with you if I end up going.
It would be great if they accepted BTC at the Center Camp Café Smiley
newbie
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This might just be the deciding factor for me to attend this year.

Do it, ive been going for three years and don't regret a single moment of it. Hell, I'd even be down to run some sort of btc event out there to spread the word if you want.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.

I meant that Bitcoin would make ticketmaster not needed. Ticketmaster ia basically a monopoly when it comes to ticket sales. Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.


Burning Man is a big money making business controlled by Black Rock City LLC. Why don't you contact them and see of they would be interested in direct sales for Bitcoin. The way the Org covers up all the deaths, rapes and accidents at BM every year I'm sure they are all about profit. Just tell them a way they can increase their profit and it should be easy to sell them on it.

http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/people/project_bio.html

Please link to credible evidence that Black Rock City LLC is literally covering up "rapes and deaths" at Burning Man, or consider retracting your (potentially) reckless slander.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.

I meant that Bitcoin would make ticketmaster not needed. Ticketmaster ia basically a monopoly when it comes to ticket sales. Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.


Burning Man is a big money making business controlled by Black Rock City LLC. Why don't you contact them and see of they would be interested in direct sales for Bitcoin. The way the Org covers up all the deaths, rapes and accidents at BM every year I'm sure they are all about profit. Just tell them a way they can increase their profit and it should be easy to sell them on it.

http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/people/project_bio.html
newbie
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They can already do this, by setting up their own ticket exchange and accepting paypal payments or just having a CC clearinghouse account.

I think that the venues actually make more money selling through ticketmaster, even though it costs their customers more. I recall reading about booking deals TM has with venues and labels, which work in everyone but the artist's and customer's favor. Of course, the only two people in the transaction that are there for anything other than profit are the watcher and the performer (most artists, imo)..
Fucking capitalism.

Maybe someone will build something that lets people fund event expenses via a kickstarter approach- minimum tickets sold = event funded and booked.
jr. member
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Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.


I think that the venues actually make more money selling through ticketmaster, even though it costs their customers more. I recall reading about booking deals TM has with venues and labels, which work in everyone but the artist's and customer's favor. Of course, the only two people in the transaction that are there for anything other than profit are the watcher and the performer (most artists, imo)..
Fucking capitalism.
jr. member
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Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.


They can already do this, by setting up their own ticket exchange and accepting paypal payments or just having a CC clearinghouse account.
newbie
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Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.

Just my opinion, obviously. But I can't explain why venues can't do without ticketmaster currently, so there is probably a big step I'm.missing.
newbie
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Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.

I meant that Bitcoin would make ticketmaster not needed. Ticketmaster ia basically a monopoly when it comes to ticket sales. Bitcoin would let venues go around ticketmaster and cut out a very expensive middleman in the ticket buying process.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
They need tickets to be back under $500.
I read somewhere that the Gov't (permits) makes it hard/impossible to increase the total amount of tickets sold...  ...such a shame.
newbie
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This might just be the deciding factor for me to attend this year.
newbie
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The event industry will definitely love bitcoin- low fees and no chargeback risk changes the game. No need for a merchant acquiring bank in order to sell tickets online!

(I will also be buying a few gift tickets this year if BMORG accepts bitcoin!)

I'll gladly be the world's first recipient of a burning man ticket purchased with BTC as long as you're the first gifter of a burning man ticket with BTC.
newbie
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Not to mention no ticketmaster.

Forgive me if I misread you, but I would think that Ticketmaster would hate bitcoin - an open financial transaction network. My take on Ticketmaster is that they unashamedly work to maintain a monopoly to charge highly profitable fees on every transaction.
newbie
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The event industry will definitely love bitcoin- low fees and no chargeback risk changes the game. No need for a merchant acquiring bank in order to sell tickets online!

(I will also be buying a few gift tickets this year if BMORG accepts bitcoin!)

Not to mention no ticketmaster.
newbie
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The event industry will definitely love bitcoin- low fees and no chargeback risk changes the game. No need for a merchant acquiring bank in order to sell tickets online!

(I will also be buying a few gift tickets this year if BMORG accepts bitcoin!)
legendary
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If I did go to Burning Man I would certainly avoid any contact with the Bitcoin crew (while at that venue.)  Especially after the SJ 2013 conference and reading down through the posts on this thread.


What happened at the 2013 SJ Conference?

Is that the one where a girl actually showed up there and things got awkward? Tongue

I saw several females, But I could not be very confident about whether they actually had two X chromosomes or not.  This being Bitcoin-land I would not want to make a bet on it.

The aB's question, the clientele struck me as:

 - VC types who were primarily interested in making bucks.

 - Techie-ish folks who took it as a given that taint was both the way to go and a good thing to eliminate 'crime'.

 - People showing of non-sense kludges and scams which one could tell would never go anywhere (primitive cobbled together ATM's with no solution the the big problem (licensing), sea-steading nonsense, hedge fund pools with no interest for any but the most tangential of risk considerations, etc.

 - Josh Zerlan

In fairness I saw some things which impressed me as well, but, just as the meetup I attended at my place of work, the event was largely underwhelming.  To me.  I'm sure a lot of others had a blast.  Actually the thing was not un-fun, but I did not really resonate with the crowd is all.

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