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Topic: [Gauging Interest] Bitcoin at Burning Man! - page 4. (Read 11665 times)

legendary
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Democracy is the original 51% attack
Ahh Burning Man! Thanks for volunteering me Charlie Smiley

Such a trip will be absolutely fantastic under the following conditions:

1) First and foremost, the purpose has to be to go with bitcoiners as a social and networking and ideating activity. We'll be able to talk bitcoin all day long among ourselves and I'm sure some great work would come out of it. BUT - we will not (and should not) be able to "sell" or promote bitcoin at Burning Man in any visible way. If it comes up in conversation with outsiders, that's great, but we can't be there to evangelize. So to the extent that it's partly a business trip, the business would be primarily limited to internally within our group, not externally toward other burners. The event is explicitly "money free" and "promotion free"... and if we're promoting money then we FAIL doubly Smiley With that said, many burners would be interested in a counter-culture monetary system - so hopefully lots of organic conversations could happen.

2) There's actually an issue of ticketing this year... basically the event has gotten so large that there are not enough tickets. Because the operators don't understand how price mechanisms work, they thought it'd be better to distribute tickets on a lottery system than by raising prices to curb demand. Any free-marketer would be able to predict the outcome - shortages! I have no idea how to get tickets this year, and it might be impossible to do in any coordinated way for a group of us. So, this might be a problem :/

3) Burning Man is absolutely wild and awesome and interesting (just like Bitcoin). I can think of no better way to spend a week with fellow bitcoiners. But, it's intense, and requires lots of planning. Cannot be done last-minute. Requires commitment and dedication.

4) A nice RV is mandatory... fuck tents in the hot sun. A/C, showers, and cold beer Wink
legendary
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
I've been there.  Once.  By accident. Tongue
Yes, there is probably a reasonable percentage of the crowd that would be interested in Bitcoin.  Forget selling or advertising.  If you want to promote bitcoin, I think the best way would be to hand out something like bitcent-value business cards with printed privkeys (maybe QR codes) that they can redeem later.  As a side benefit-- after whatever they were taking wears off, they have a business card that will remind them to check out bitcoins. Grin

This is a good idea, maybe the guys at Bit-pay can make some cards with bitcents or on an address, or instawallet / blockchain.info branded cards.

Sponsoring something like this would pay for the coins on the card itself.

...Hold up a sign that says 'Free Money!' (Can we do that ?)

They depart one week later, having left no trace whatsoever.
Unfortunately, that part is far from true.  I used to travel to the playa weeks after Burning Man.  There would still be loads of trash out there.


Thats a terrible thing, we will make sure to clean up all our stuff !
sr. member
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Turning money into heat since 2011.
I've been there.  Once.  By accident. Tongue
Yes, there is probably a reasonable percentage of the crowd that would be interested in Bitcoin.  Forget selling or advertising.  If you want to promote bitcoin, I think the best way would be to hand out something like bitcent-value business cards with printed privkeys (maybe QR codes) that they can redeem later.  As a side benefit-- after whatever they were taking wears off, they have a business card that will remind them to check out bitcoins. Grin

They depart one week later, having left no trace whatsoever.
Unfortunately, that part is far from true.  I used to travel to the playa weeks after Burning Man.  There would still be loads of trash out there.

legendary
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You'll be surrounded by who???  Shocked

You honestly don't know what you're talking about.
I've been involved with the psytrance scene for the last 15 years and I can assure you that they are some of the most technologicaly minded people around.

I might not been to the Boom Fest, but I've been meditating and practising yoga for the past 4 years.  I've been to yoga retreats in India, Thailand and here in Canada.

The issue of money is mostly shunned upon.

I might not know everything, but I do know something, that's from experience.

And what has Yoga to do with Psytrance? Do you really think you'll be able to meditate in the middle of Boom Festival?
Only if you take a dosage of LsD that'll put you into coma Cheesy

Like I said, you are confusing marketing strategies with how technologicaly advanced people are.
Do as I say, don't do as I do, and all that stuff Wink

EDIT: BTW: Infected Mushroom, one of the biggest psytrance icons, are the official soundtrack of BackTrack Linux... How's that for people who don't even know what encryption is? Really... LOL Big LOL

Proof:
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack/backtrack-5-are-you-infected-yet/
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack-5-and-infected-mushroom/
hero member
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You'll be surrounded by who???  Shocked
I was surprised how many tech geeks there were out there.  There were also lots of beautiful, half-naked, drug fueled women.
sr. member
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You'll be surrounded by who???  Shocked

You honestly don't know what you're talking about.
I've been involved with the psytrance scene for the last 15 years and I can assure you that they are some of the most technologicaly minded people around.

I might not been to the Boom Fest, but I've been meditating and practising yoga for the past 4 years.  I've been to yoga retreats in India, Thailand and here in Canada.

The issue of money is mostly shunned upon.

I might not know everything, but I do know something, that's from experience.
legendary
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You'll be surrounded by who???  Shocked

You honestly don't know what you're talking about.
I've been involved with the psytrance scene for the last 15 years and I can assure you that they are some of the most technologicaly minded people around.

The only thing I'm sure they don't like in Bitcoin is the tremendous waste of energy spent on mining.

Don't mind the mayan and hindu stuff they use in their promo stuff. It's just marketing, plain and simple Wink
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The people who attend Burning Man are not the same people who would use bitcoin. Ever. Period.
I use bitcoin and went to burning man.  The whole thing about burning man is not carrying around or even caring about money though.  It is a gift economy.  If someone tried to sell me something out there, I wouldn't want it no matter how cool the currency was.

Last year some people did make some fake money that was pretty funny though.  It had infinity symbols and 0 and a few other strange numbers as the values.  I'll try and find some pics.

EDIT: Exchanghibition Bank
sr. member
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This http://www.boomfestival.org/ would be a better place to promote Bitcoin Wink

Oh, and to smoke weed, as long as you can get past the police at the gates with it Tongue

The prob with the boom fest is, we'll be surrounded with people who wanted to go back to the stone ages... the concept of encryption will go in ear and out the other.

At least with the Burning Man, we'll be in close proximity with the Silicon Valley, and there'll be lotsa techies around, and possibly a lot of tech entrepreneurs. 
legendary
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This http://www.boomfestival.org/ would be a better place to promote Bitcoin Wink

Oh, and to smoke weed, as long as you can get past the police at the gates with it Tongue
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Yup! Thats exactly what I think going with people who share the same ideas as I do would be the perfect group

You just might make it out of bat country in one piece.

Please send back pictures of some burning paper wallets for those of us who can't make it.  Don't forget to censor the keys.  Smiley
legendary
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Bitcoin
I honestly just wanted to get all the Bitcoiners in an RV and do a Bitcoin confrence-type on wheels, go to Burning Man, drink and smoke some weed

Everything else was secondary

drink and smoke weed niiiceee ha ....I've been to burning man once need to do it again!
sr. member
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This is awesome... can Canadians come along to the parrrrr-tay?
legendary
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
That part I encourage you to do.  Smiley  But realize that if you're just looking for a wild party you're better off in Vegas.

Been there, done that!

If you go to Burning Man, don't be a tourist; participate in creating an alternative culture.

Yup! Thats exactly what I think going with people who share the same ideas as I do would be the perfect group
hero member
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That part I encourage you to do.  Smiley  But realize that if you're just looking for a wild party you're better off in Vegas.

If you go to Burning Man, don't be a tourist; participate in creating an alternative culture.
legendary
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
I honestly just wanted to get all the Bitcoiners in an RV and do a Bitcoin confrence-type on wheels, go to Burning Man, drink and smoke some weed

Everything else was secondary
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Alternate currency that is not trackable by governments? Silk Road friendly? Wanna bet there aren't already users that bridge both communities?

They have about as much in common as an industrial meth lab has with a bunch of hippie pot farmers.  There are probably some dealers who bridge both communities, but no, they are not like-minded individuals.

On second thought, there could be a way to make this work. (going to write the following via taxing my memory) What if all/most/some of the theme tents ...............fuck!!! just realized probably no internet connection out there.......had a great idea.

~Bruno~

Edit: Had to revisit their site.

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Gifting

Burning Man is devoted to acts of gift giving. The value of a gift is unconditional. Gifting does not contemplate a return or an exchange for something of equal value.

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Other than the Cafe and ice in Center Camp, there is NO VENDING at Burning Man. Participants who are found vending will be asked to leave.

The way I see it, the best one could do is give away bitcents, but without an apparent sponsor(s). One could relay info via a flyer to Google "Burning Man Bitcoin" without quotes, and the main entity that would make this possible would have done SEO to some site to thereby profit somewhat down the road.

The camp could be named "Free Bitcoins" and, of course, man the camp with Bitcoin Gone Wild girls. To make it more interesting, since most all the other women at Burning Man will be nude or partially nude, our girls will be donning furs and dancing onto coffee tables.

Sometimes I have to ask myself, "Bruno, where do you come up with this shit?"

Seriously, this idea is not outside the realm of possibility. It is doable. Its success would be based on how well it's executed.

~Bruno~
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Alternate currency that is not trackable by governments? Silk Road friendly? Wanna bet there aren't already users that bridge both communities?

They have about as much in common as an industrial meth lab has with a bunch of hippie pot farmers.  There are probably some dealers who bridge both communities, but no, they are not like-minded individuals.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Won't work! It's a known fact that nothing is for sale at Burning Man. Everything is free. And no advertising. Period!

I hated to burst your bubble on this. I, too, love Burning Man, but...

~Bruno~
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Essentially, its thousands of people camping in the dessert for a few days, drinking, doing drugs and listening to music. (clothing optional)

I think you're looking for a rave.

In Burning Man, one of the core principles is to create a city-scale money-free gift economy for a week at a time.  Advertising money there, even alternative money, is not going to be taken well.  Selling T-shirts will make you look like fools.

Exactly my point.  Bitcoin will be far from a shoe-in amongst that crowd.  It will also be some time before bitcoin gains the usability the average Joe would want.
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