Gavin Andresen calls it a "mistake" to trust CSW - page 5.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 06, 2023, 09:13:05 AM

You can read the (a?) NDA agreement that Gavin signed which was submitted as part of the Hodlonaut trial. It's available on Twitter here: https://nitter.it/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1575785115061432320.

i know and i have. but thats not the point or what i am on about(not that one(pre-visit NDA))..

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 06, 2023, 09:13:05 AM

There is of course the possibility of a second, still confidential, NDA existing.

exactly and thats the point
from the stories said between GA and CSW
GA signed something before getting on plane
GA signed something at the visit before CSW got "assistant to buy a fresh laptop"

and like any good lawyer HR firm would ask. to have another thing signed after event to re-enforce the previous contracts

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 06, 2023, 09:13:05 AM

I of course agree that everyone with any sense is already in complete agreement that Andresen was fooled by CSW. But this statement may be relevant to any upcoming CSW trials, where he relies heavily on witness testimony, since he is unable to provide any hard evidence of any sort, cryptographic or otherwise.

CSW now relies on the ayres buddy witness .. you know the one
"i trust CSW because i spoke with his mom"

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You can read the (a?) NDA agreement that Gavin signed which was submitted as part of the Hodlonaut trial. It's available on Twitter here: https://nitter.it/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1575785115061432320. There is of course the possibility of a second, still confidential, NDA existing.

I of course agree that everyone with any sense is already in complete agreement that Andresen was fooled by CSW. But this statement may be relevant to any upcoming CSW trials, where he relies heavily on witness testimony, since he is unable to provide any hard evidence of any sort, cryptographic or otherwise.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 06, 2023, 08:32:45 AM

Quote from: http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi

Feb 2023: I don’t believe in rewriting history, so I’m going to leave this post up. But in the seven years since I wrote it, a lot has happened, and I now know it was a mistake to trust Craig Wright as much as I did. I regret getting sucked into the “who is (or isn’t) Satoshi” game, and I refuse to play that game any more.

I'll take it. Perhaps it could have been more explicit, but it's easy enough to read between the lines and take the inferred meaning. Pride is probably a factor too. It's not always easy to admit when someone has made a fool of you.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 06, 2023, 08:32:45 AM

There has been a lot of discussion over the years about why Andresen never came out and formally denounced CSW, since it beyond any doubt that he is categorically not Satoshi. This is a step in the right direction, but it's a bit weak for my liking. Obviously it was a mistake to ever trust CSW, but Andresen needs to go further and categorically say "Sorry, I was wrong. CSW is obviously not Satoshi."

This is long overdue and I agree that the only reasonable explanation is that he has signed a legal paper and was bound to stay silent.
Still, better late than never, hence I salute this move.

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GA signed some NDA's before and during the visit with CSW. some he disclosed publicly but..
the logical explanation(my opinion)
.. i believe that GA had some other NDA he did not disclose. which put him into silence for X years, which has possibly expired allowing him to now say more

either way no one trusts CSW. the only fangirls he has are BRIBED/sponsored/blackmailed/contracted into saying positive stuff. even the ones that tweet saying they trust him dont. but they toe their party bus line for greed or fear of loss of income.. not trust

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True, recent statement of Gavin Andresen does not deny or oppose the idea of CSW being Satoshi nor support the fact that CSW's is not Satoshi and is a fake. The statement somehow states that they had some business deal and later he found out that CSW is cheating him. Gavin Andresen should have clearly stated and put a stand that CSW is cheating people when CSW is claiming to be Satoshi.

I agree that it would be a lot stronger to say that CSW is not Satoshi than saying it was a mistake trusting CSW. Since the statement can branch out anywhere instead of the issue about CSW being fake Satoshi.

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An additional paragraph appeared this morning at the top of a blog post Gavin Andresen wrote back in May 2016 about his meeting with CSW.

Quote from: http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi

Feb 2023: I don’t believe in rewriting history, so I’m going to leave this post up. But in the seven years since I wrote it, a lot has happened, and I now know it was a mistake to trust Craig Wright as much as I did. I regret getting sucked into the “who is (or isn’t) Satoshi” game, and I refuse to play that game any more.

There has been a lot of discussion over the years about why Andresen never came out and formally denounced CSW, since it beyond any doubt that he is categorically not Satoshi. This is a step in the right direction, but it's a bit weak for my liking. Obviously it was a mistake to ever trust CSW, but Andresen needs to go further and categorically say "Sorry, I was wrong. CSW is obviously not Satoshi."

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