The side conversation about the individual ponzi and its operation was split to here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gawpaycoin-hellsgremlin-shill-and-ponzi-discussion-998774
If you were responding to that, please do so in the new split thread, further discussion in this thread about the matter will deleted, do so in the new thread above.
*edit* A few posts may have got caught up in the new thread, sorry about that, splitting topics doesn't let you pick and choose posts, I scanned over a few pages to find the beginning of the discussion, and tried to get as few posts related to this topic. I'll quote relevant posts and bring them back here.
Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1133. (Read 3377956 times)
March 21, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
March 21, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
just like the Team XPY smokescreen.
"hey im not part of this anymore its GAWSOME NOW. also take a look at my xpy boosting ConStand!"
the insane forum sanitation will carry on and nothing changes except in name. theres not a single piece of evidence that would prove they are trying to change the power structure (supply of xpy, prime controllers). just move more work to the community and leech it like theres no tomorrow
"hey im not part of this anymore its GAWSOME NOW. also take a look at my xpy boosting ConStand!"
the insane forum sanitation will carry on and nothing changes except in name. theres not a single piece of evidence that would prove they are trying to change the power structure (supply of xpy, prime controllers). just move more work to the community and leech it like theres no tomorrow
March 21, 2015, 10:51:50 AM
March 21, 2015, 10:49:24 AM
So I guess I'll post here. I've left Paycoin.
I started like most with the hashlets and really enjoyed the cloud mining and the buying/selling on the market.
I mined Hashpoints and even though XPY 'crashed' from the $20 promise, I still sold early enough to ROI.
However, as you all know well here, things started to not add up.
Other people were sending out warnings about XPY then, but I thought some of the screw-ups were just poor management; and I decided to give GAW the benefit of the doubt.
Now, I've converted. I laid low for the last month or so, waiting for something to happen with the development of XPY.
When coinstand unveiled the other day, my first thought was great, maybe we have something.
But again, it was like everything before - a fail.
I didn't buy into the private investor crap this time. Amazon boxes shipped 2 days after the order?...please. And where's the marketing team for Coinstand?
My awakening was gradual - but coinstand was the last straw. I hope to get my staked XPY out of Zencloud, but even if I don't, I'm just glad to be done with the whole mess.
What a relief.
PS. I started to really be offended at how Josh treated his customer base. He'd constantly deflect, tell everyone to be patient, and then somehow it was our job to innovate and develop his project.
PPS. Oh I'm also glad I didn't drag anyone into it. I had one family member interested about 1.5 months ago - and I said wait. I was starting to have doubts then. So, so glad I had them wait.
I started like most with the hashlets and really enjoyed the cloud mining and the buying/selling on the market.
I mined Hashpoints and even though XPY 'crashed' from the $20 promise, I still sold early enough to ROI.
However, as you all know well here, things started to not add up.
Other people were sending out warnings about XPY then, but I thought some of the screw-ups were just poor management; and I decided to give GAW the benefit of the doubt.
Now, I've converted. I laid low for the last month or so, waiting for something to happen with the development of XPY.
When coinstand unveiled the other day, my first thought was great, maybe we have something.
But again, it was like everything before - a fail.
I didn't buy into the private investor crap this time. Amazon boxes shipped 2 days after the order?...please. And where's the marketing team for Coinstand?
My awakening was gradual - but coinstand was the last straw. I hope to get my staked XPY out of Zencloud, but even if I don't, I'm just glad to be done with the whole mess.
What a relief.
PS. I started to really be offended at how Josh treated his customer base. He'd constantly deflect, tell everyone to be patient, and then somehow it was our job to innovate and develop his project.
PPS. Oh I'm also glad I didn't drag anyone into it. I had one family member interested about 1.5 months ago - and I said wait. I was starting to have doubts then. So, so glad I had them wait.
March 21, 2015, 10:41:59 AM
spacewalker1: yes it makes no sense at all
theres so many messages that they cant even keep up. some people actually get to read them before ban/deleting and sowing distrust into this whole crapshoot
do they really think they can grow their customer base faster than the % who are leaving xpy due to GAW failing at everything
answer: no. lets take a look at number of wallets. growth rate is so tiny that its doomed to fail. Mr Gonzo knows this is a real possibility and is starting other operations and trying smokescreen via Team XPY (see ConStand is accepting BTC. when XPY fails he can continue the site except itll be 96-97% amazon price. in hopes that he has a usable customer base that actually believe its the only way to use cryptos for consumer goods)
he has been pretty upfront about coinstand and trying to distance it from all GAW crap. nowhere has he made insane claims like xpy=20$ always. he just omits some info conveniently. it screams that its a part of a backup plan
of course he hopes to pump up the endless golden goose known as xpy
theres so many messages that they cant even keep up. some people actually get to read them before ban/deleting and sowing distrust into this whole crapshoot
do they really think they can grow their customer base faster than the % who are leaving xpy due to GAW failing at everything
answer: no. lets take a look at number of wallets. growth rate is so tiny that its doomed to fail. Mr Gonzo knows this is a real possibility and is starting other operations and trying smokescreen via Team XPY (see ConStand is accepting BTC. when XPY fails he can continue the site except itll be 96-97% amazon price. in hopes that he has a usable customer base that actually believe its the only way to use cryptos for consumer goods)
he has been pretty upfront about coinstand and trying to distance it from all GAW crap. nowhere has he made insane claims like xpy=20$ always. he just omits some info conveniently. it screams that its a part of a backup plan
of course he hopes to pump up the endless golden goose known as xpy
March 21, 2015, 10:37:34 AM
Gotta love HG's plan for a merchant to buy all Paycoin's @ $20. Brilliant plan old chap, I can't find any flaws in that logic-LMAO.
Some things I did not get around to posting last evening from a quick search of Hellsgremlin. Check out the image hits. This is classic:
https://i.imgur.com/cxE4xsr.jpg
I am not going to bother posting all I stumbled upon, but anyone who wants to check will find that he has been asking to buy hacks to break into Paypal websites and such and trying all kinds of pissant pyramid/Ponzi scams for the past few years. I thought this find here was rather amusing. He is not only an astute investor, he is also a sharp Poker player:
https://i.imgur.com/YUKdkmb.jpg
Some things I did not get around to posting last evening from a quick search of Hellsgremlin. Check out the image hits. This is classic:
https://i.imgur.com/cxE4xsr.jpg
I am not going to bother posting all I stumbled upon, but anyone who wants to check will find that he has been asking to buy hacks to break into Paypal websites and such and trying all kinds of pissant pyramid/Ponzi scams for the past few years. I thought this find here was rather amusing. He is not only an astute investor, he is also a sharp Poker player:
https://i.imgur.com/YUKdkmb.jpg
That jerk is a dumb ass, running xpyponzi that took thousands of xpy that he did NOT pay back as stated.
He then starts another Ponzi scam and adds the sig to his user here and states it was a mistake and forgot
about it but its still there today. Hum lets start a Ponzi then let everyone know my name, then film myself
and show everyone may face on camera, good for the mugshot. The SEC would love to be forwarded his info
and its all on the net for them to verify, did someone just get jail time by them the other week?
I though you where leaving us a while ago, why you come back, oh I forgot, you do not keep your word
and are a scammer/thief that robbed people of their money. You and Homero must be very close friends and
are both not the most smartest crooks. The price is dropping now again, people are pissed off on HT and the
stakers coins have not even been released yet, expect it to sink fast soon!
March 21, 2015, 10:36:55 AM
GAWCEO-SCAM answer about Coinstand-SCAM:
Quote
https://hashtalk.org/topic/34539/do-you-want-a-coinstand-beta-invite/2
Do you want a CoinStand Beta Invite?
Let me be direct: The CoinStand Beta Program is not the honors program. It’s not something you are entitled to and it has nothing to do with how long you have been a GAW customer
Its important to understand that CoinStand does not have an obligation to give invites. It is doing it to test it's systems, think of it as a reward for helping. This is made possible from private investors in CoinStand.
The big news here is the ability to purchase millions of products directly with crypto. CoinStand is about changing purchasing for crytpo, and helps the Paycoin ecosystem. It's not about “getting something” for yourself.
Here is the bottom line: Paycoin will be successful when there are reasons to own and use it, that’s the direction we are heading.
Finally, if you want an invite, writing angry post about why it should be given to you is a sure way to NOT get an invite.
If you want an invite, read this:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/34416/waiting-for-an-invite-show-coinstand-com-that-they-need-you
And yes, I am in a bit of a mood. To write frankly, it gets a bit tiring to see all the hard work, that others have put in, get distorted in to something that moves us back. We need to work together to move forward.
Follow me on Twitter - https://twitter.com/gawceo
Do you want a CoinStand Beta Invite?
Let me be direct: The CoinStand Beta Program is not the honors program. It’s not something you are entitled to and it has nothing to do with how long you have been a GAW customer
Its important to understand that CoinStand does not have an obligation to give invites. It is doing it to test it's systems, think of it as a reward for helping. This is made possible from private investors in CoinStand.
The big news here is the ability to purchase millions of products directly with crypto. CoinStand is about changing purchasing for crytpo, and helps the Paycoin ecosystem. It's not about “getting something” for yourself.
Here is the bottom line: Paycoin will be successful when there are reasons to own and use it, that’s the direction we are heading.
Finally, if you want an invite, writing angry post about why it should be given to you is a sure way to NOT get an invite.
If you want an invite, read this:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/34416/waiting-for-an-invite-show-coinstand-com-that-they-need-you
And yes, I am in a bit of a mood. To write frankly, it gets a bit tiring to see all the hard work, that others have put in, get distorted in to something that moves us back. We need to work together to move forward.
Follow me on Twitter - https://twitter.com/gawceo
March 21, 2015, 10:30:41 AM
From:
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2me7fww.jpg
To:
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2bbmee.jpg
in a few minutes. This guy has 600 reputation and 460 posts. Josh doesn't give a shit, let's delete this legit questions.
I got my shadow-ban yesterday for asking other legit questions.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2me7fww.jpg
To:
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2bbmee.jpg
in a few minutes. This guy has 600 reputation and 460 posts. Josh doesn't give a shit, let's delete this legit questions.
I got my shadow-ban yesterday for asking other legit questions.
March 21, 2015, 10:26:56 AM
Add this to the GAWCEO-SCAM letters collection:
=====================================
On 21 Mar 2015 ..., [email protected] wrote:
Hi X.Y,
Thank you for your inquiry.
As we strive to make Coinstand a better product we will continue to hand select new beta members. Coinstand is a start-up, and it will take time for us to ramp up resources. Please be patient as we grow and know that it is likely that the majority of requests will eventually receive an invite.
We look forward to continue changing the industry one day at a time.
-Mark
Ticket: https://coinstand.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/..
On Wed, 18 Mar ... , X.Y wrote:
Please send me an invite to coinstand.com
I requested one on your site some hours ago but does not received any.
Best regards.
X.Y
=====================================
=====================================
On 21 Mar 2015 ..., [email protected] wrote:
Hi X.Y,
Thank you for your inquiry.
As we strive to make Coinstand a better product we will continue to hand select new beta members. Coinstand is a start-up, and it will take time for us to ramp up resources. Please be patient as we grow and know that it is likely that the majority of requests will eventually receive an invite.
We look forward to continue changing the industry one day at a time.
-Mark
Ticket: https://coinstand.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/..
On Wed, 18 Mar ... , X.Y wrote:
Please send me an invite to coinstand.com
I requested one on your site some hours ago but does not received any.
Best regards.
X.Y
=====================================
March 21, 2015, 10:20:14 AM
hes a great spoke person for GAW, Team XPY and paycoin in general
hand picked by Mr. Gonzo him self into the ConStand program
classic
hand picked by Mr. Gonzo him self into the ConStand program
classic
March 21, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
Gotta love HG's plan for a merchant to buy all Paycoin's @ $20. Brilliant plan old chap, I can't find any flaws in that logic-LMAO.
Some things I did not get around to posting last evening from a quick search of Hellsgremlin. Check out the image hits. This is classic:
I am not going to bother posting all I stumbled upon, but anyone who wants to check will find that he has been asking to buy hacks to break into Paypal websites and such and trying all kinds of pissant pyramid/Ponzi scams for the past few years. I thought this find here was rather amusing. He is not only an astute investor, he is also a sharp Poker player:
Some things I did not get around to posting last evening from a quick search of Hellsgremlin. Check out the image hits. This is classic:
I am not going to bother posting all I stumbled upon, but anyone who wants to check will find that he has been asking to buy hacks to break into Paypal websites and such and trying all kinds of pissant pyramid/Ponzi scams for the past few years. I thought this find here was rather amusing. He is not only an astute investor, he is also a sharp Poker player:
March 21, 2015, 08:38:08 AM
Oh, I see your new at this ...lol. quote yourself often ?
liriks is [yAK] - http://muchopedia.com/wiki/Yak
March 21, 2015, 08:20:13 AM
900 views from the same ~100 people refreshing it lol
lol yeah and most of those views probably came from BCT
March 21, 2015, 08:20:00 AM
Homero is running the oldest trick known to man the only difference is he's incorporating new technology into it.
March 21, 2015, 08:17:29 AM
900 views from the same ~100 people refreshing it lol
lol yeah and most of those views probably came from BCT
March 21, 2015, 08:15:35 AM
900 views from the same ~100 people refreshing it lol.
March 21, 2015, 08:14:14 AM
some are catching on...
"It's going to go down a lot more today.
People realize that Coinstand was all hype."
Yeah I'm going to agree with you. Even the numbers on the shill video show 900 views 34 likes 31 dislikes very telling.
March 21, 2015, 08:13:03 AM
Gawtards are weak, they aren't shilling hard enough
LOL - don't encourage them dude. They are weak-minded enough to try harder.
March 21, 2015, 08:12:06 AM
Gawtards are weak, they aren't shilling hard enough
March 21, 2015, 08:09:43 AM
some are catching on...
"It's going to go down a lot more today.
People realize that Coinstand was all hype."
They will blame it on the people in this OP.
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