Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1134. (Read 3377956 times)
March 21, 2015, 08:05:03 AM
some are catching on...
"It's going to go down a lot more today.
People realize that Coinstand was all hype."
March 21, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
bitpop is [yAK] - http://muchopedia.com/wiki/Yak
actually bitpop is a voice of reason and his motto is strong
HODL!
looks like a concerted invasion of BCT, lol ...
March 21, 2015, 07:07:18 AM
bitpop is [yAK] - http://muchopedia.com/wiki/Yak
March 21, 2015, 07:05:35 AM
Its all a conspiracy, Nothing is what it seems. The video is fake and the item does not exist. That wasn't me with a neck beard in that video & The US government planned 911 I wish my goldfish woulda came first.
Jesus Christ, The conspiracy in this thread.
Jesus Christ, The conspiracy in this thread.
So that's what a criminal looks like..
March 21, 2015, 07:01:49 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
Fine i won't snitch to the irs, I'll save that for favelle
Listen I hate the little twat so much I would call them but I live in England so it would be a bit weird if a Brit called the US authorities. Somebody step up to the plate and report this fucker and let the authorities decide whether criminality has taken place.
Yes a Canadian should volunteer. But favelle isn't shilling hard enough to get a MacBook and he sure as hell isn't getting capital gains so it might be moot.
March 21, 2015, 06:52:27 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
Fine i won't snitch to the irs, I'll save that for favelle
Listen I hate the little twat so much I would call them but I live in England so it would be a bit weird if a Brit called the US authorities. Somebody step up to the plate and report this fucker and let the authorities decide whether criminality has taken place.
March 21, 2015, 06:31:08 AM
A crypto forum is gonna be an unfriendly place for a fiat apologist.
Sure. And hijacked by neo libertarians, it was (maybe still is) an unfriendly place for "apologists" of reasonable regulation as well. Free market and all that, but bitcoin based securities are doing a real good job showing just why regulation is not inherently evil, but in fact a requirement for a properly functioning free market.
yes indeed. fine example in this thread, vlad the impaler who wants to get rid of stop signs, food inspectors, etc. let the free market fix it. WHO IS THE GOV TO TELL ME WHEN TO STOP ANYWAYS?!
March 21, 2015, 06:09:17 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
Fine i won't snitch to the irs, I'll save that for favelle
I don't think the IRS will care, favelle is Canadian. Now, Revenue Canada? They might
March 21, 2015, 05:53:41 AM
A crypto forum is gonna be an unfriendly place for a fiat apologist.
Sure. And hijacked by neo libertarians, it was (maybe still is) an unfriendly place for "apologists" of reasonable regulation as well. Free market and all that, but bitcoin based securities are doing a real good job showing just why regulation is not inherently evil, but in fact a requirement for a properly functioning free market.
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The new money whisked into existence necessarily devalues all other money that was in existence before the event.
True, but the opposite is also true. As debts get repaid, money is destroyed.
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The net result is that this act steals tangible wealth from each and every other person, and places that wealth in the pocket of the creator of the money -- the bank in this instance.
No, its not the bank that is the beneficiary. The bank doesnt get the money, whoever gets the loan gets the money, and as the loan is repaid, his pledge and therefore, the money that pledge represents, is again destroyed.
Of course its also true that the money to pay interests on the loan is never created, and thus overall debt will always go up, and debt based money is therefore inflationary; you will call it theft of redistribution of wealth; but its not to the banks, its to society as a whole, and I dont see that as evil, but as a sound economic principle. Deflation doesnt lead to economic growth, it automatically leads to ever greater concentration of wealth. Thats only good if you are wealthy to begin with, not so good for society at large. Its like a feudal system for finance.
Besides, why would you think its criminal that "fiat steals wealth from the wealthy", when something like bitcoin, if ever it would go maintstream would create enormous wealth for the bitcoin wealthy, ie you and me, at the expense of everyone else?
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Mandatory on-topic content: The previously-undisclosed nature of GAW's 3500% stakers steals wealth through a similar mechanism.
If paycoin represented debt, it would be impossible for gaw to have 3500% stakers
March 21, 2015, 01:39:12 AM
Funny I remember Vlad2Vlad as the guy arguing with Josh about the original Paycoin. Trying to get him to buy the name or buy him out or something. What happened there?
He sold his account to homero and became ultra shill
March 21, 2015, 01:29:11 AM
Funny I remember Vlad2Vlad as the guy arguing with Josh about the original Paycoin. Trying to get him to buy the name or buy him out or something. What happened there?
March 21, 2015, 01:18:46 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
it was posted few times already but its good to repeat once a while. makes sure his search results are scam alerts on googles first search page.
im sorry but criminals do not need protection from doxxing. possibly when he starts another scam or ponzi people will avoid it by googling his name
do you see people doxxing other paid shills like vlad the impaler? no because even he has the decency of not trying to run and promote ponzis
March 21, 2015, 12:53:28 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
Fine i won't snitch to the irs, I'll save that for favelle
March 21, 2015, 12:50:04 AM
Dang bitpop, ain't that a bit much? Doxxing him for all the world to see?
March 21, 2015, 12:31:31 AM
https://mega.co.nz/#!8F9DzbaQ!P7DiOC-eKR8rc9HBP7u8IaeVnLalQxhJ2ccJQawCyo4
Details of another scammer of the community,
stole over 2K of XPY: Hellsgremlin/Gremlin123,
real name Bryon Jones.
Bryon Jones
2261 E Clearfield st
Philadelphia, PA 19134
United States
Phone: 215-906-3180
[email protected]
[email protected]
Btw I'm pretty sure you won't be reporting your gift tax or capital gains, so I'm about to do it for you
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf
March 21, 2015, 12:03:24 AM
March 20, 2015, 11:55:51 PM
jimmothy the stakers were free upgrades and they are still paying out. One 6 month for the Zen and one 3 month for the Genesis. Granted without the Hashtalk giveaways and whatnot I would be much worse off, but my experience is fairly typical. There were TONS of giveaways going on.
March 20, 2015, 11:55:00 PM
I want to share a story with you all. In early November 2014 I was doing something online and I saw an ad for this thing called a Hashlet. It looked kinda cool so I clicked on it. On Gaw's homepage I read more about it and I was like "what the hell?" and bought one. I think it was the genesis that I bought first for $6.95. I got the email and logged into Zencloud and activated the sucker. I fiddled around a bit and checked out the Zencloud site and come to find out they also gave me a free Genesis as a gift. Then I logged off and went to bed. A few days went by and the payouts were steady so I decided to buy a Zen. It was $14.95. A few days or a week later I noticed this odd little icon on top of the Zencloud UI, so I clicked that and it took me to Hashtalk. I registered and started following threads, not really posting...just lurking. Soon I ran across a thread that calculated ROI on Hashlets if you were mining these things called Hashpoints. Apparently if you had a Zen and pointed it at the Hashpoint pool you could potentially ROI in a matter of like 45 days. This was all based on 400 hashpoints = 1 Hashcoin = $20. So I switched my Zen over to the Hashpoint pool. Then sometime later the Paycoin white paper came out. How amazing this coin sounded! Around this time Josh decided to let all Hashlets mine Hashpoints. So I pointed all of them at the Hashpoint pool. Then Josh gave us the option to convert all of our Hashlets into Hashstakers (except the free gift one). So I did so as it seemed like Gaw was moving away from mining. Immediately after conversions were over came the ICO. I had like 800 hashpoints so I got 2 XPY. Perfect! It was just enough to fill my stakers.
Meanwhile I won some XPY and was given a few during contests and giveaways on Hashtalk. When Paybase launched I had around 15 XPY plus a couple in stakers. For a long time I just held my coins waiting for $20 to arrive. One day I said screw it and sold them all for around $8. The next day I had seller's remorse and bought them back. But the price had dropped so I ended up with more. I've bought and sold a few times now and quintupled my holdings to 75 XPY. That's where I stand now. If I sold them all today and walked away I would still have over double what I paid for my Hashlets. But I'm a patient man and if somehow I end up getting a $20 valuation for them it's $1500. Repeat fifteen fricking hundred dollars from a twenty-one dollar investment!
tl;dr: Always make money definitely applies to my experience with Gaw.
Meanwhile I won some XPY and was given a few during contests and giveaways on Hashtalk. When Paybase launched I had around 15 XPY plus a couple in stakers. For a long time I just held my coins waiting for $20 to arrive. One day I said screw it and sold them all for around $8. The next day I had seller's remorse and bought them back. But the price had dropped so I ended up with more. I've bought and sold a few times now and quintupled my holdings to 75 XPY. That's where I stand now. If I sold them all today and walked away I would still have over double what I paid for my Hashlets. But I'm a patient man and if somehow I end up getting a $20 valuation for them it's $1500. Repeat fifteen fricking hundred dollars from a twenty-one dollar investment!
tl;dr: Always make money definitely applies to my experience with Gaw.
LOL.
Here's a breakdown of your GAW investments:
Genesis hashlet: invested $6.95, earned ~$2 = -$4.95 ROI
Zen hashlet: invested $14.95, earned $1.6 (2 xpy) = -$13.34 ROI
Hashstakers (guessing 2 3 month?): invested $30, earned $ 1.4 (~1.75 xpy) = -$28.6 ROI
Total: invested $52, earned $5 = -$47 ROI (90% loss)
tl;dr you probably just made up that last bit to justify your massive losses. If not, then you would have been MUCH better off just speculating and gambling on contests than investing with GAW.
agree
lol
March 20, 2015, 11:53:31 PM
I meant this thread literally scared me into selling that first time, because I thought it would all come crashing down. So far it's crumbled and slumped and everything but come crashing down. Who knows? Maybe Josh can pull it off. Even if not it has been one hell of a ride.
A 75-95% decline in value of an investment (depending if you choose a $4 or a $20 starting point) looks much like a crash. But yes, there is still room to go down.
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