Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1736. (Read 3377956 times)

You are playing cheerleader for Paycoin. Paycoin is a scam. I do not want anything from you, but do not expect me to have any respect for someone who engages in this sort of activity.

If someone calling you a moron for blindly throwing your money away and openly trying to convince others to do the same, tough shit, grow some thicker bark or get out of the forest.

So you would like for me to shout scam with you? Is that what you want? And what am I doing to help this operation? Am I actively convincing people to invest in GAW? Did I ever convince anybody to invest in GAW? No I did not. And you people wonder why nobody believes you every other post is a personal attack. There are only a handful of people on this topic that don't resort to personal attacks.

It's just you... but I'm not judging 

is it me or do several of this guys have tits makes them look like a girl, and i dont know what it is about josh that makes me want to say " you got such pretty lips boy " 

Josh (GAW) took people's money and promised to deliver a variety of things and did not deliver and kept the money.

This is the definition of a SCAM. Case closed.

You have been fucking Paycoined:




The question is, when are you going to come to grips with the simple fact that you have been taken for a fool, and secondly, perhaps more importantly, when are you going to stop helping this operation rip more people off?

I can see where you guys are coming from,  personally can't see it playing out.   This will not stop, and I mean, there is innovation and entreprenuership in the crypto ecosystem daily. Everyday, there is a new young entreprenuer starting up. Everyday a new innovative company is offering awesome services. I have been here a little over a year, and to this day, the only company with this much bad/negative publicity while still functioning would be Moolah in my eyes, and we know how that ended. Not comparing them or saying they are the same, but to me, it seems as though any investor who is working with hard earned money, (not money that came from buying bitcoin at $10, looking for another quick gain) would even consider, considddderr putting capital into a brand with this much negativity, not to mention the entity in charge consistantly falling short of ANY promises, and blame the people questioning about valid Q' as FUD and "trolls".  No real investor would throw money at a brand that is this badly mismanaged, love to be proved wrong on that... but doubtful.

I just don't see it. Would love someone to really bring crypto to the main stream, but if Paybase is where this starts, I am very happy staying where I am.  Just don;t see it, and these scam threads, aren't really productive for anyone in here, except trying to "rid" crypto of the scams before people get taken for everything....  

A side note, grandmas and grandpas, probably not the market that will bring much volume to the equation.  Maybe they have a partnership coming with lifealert (button for seniors who have fallen)?  Buy 2 XPY get a free life alert button!



Also people really need to learn the difference between screaming scams trolls FUD - and - VALID QUESTIONS that continually go unanswered!

No it is not and I agree with you. But a lot of others have screamed scam.

Paybase uses http://www.riskified.com/. In case anyone wanted to know.

I never screamed scam, but I'm just failing to understand how repeated lies and poorly implemented or forgotten promises and other ongoing issues can't be considered wrong by some who have a lower threshold of tolerance for that kind of stuff? If it's not a scam but just a poorly managed business, is it really inconceivable that some people might have their trust in the "intent" affected by that?

What I don't get is that there are still so many people believing everything that Garza says.

March last year I bought several miners from them and they were lying right from the start about delivery times.
I got several mails that the items were shipped but I saw they were not in transit, Josh blamed it on USPS but actually the miners were not shipped at all.
Then they were trying to keep me happy with things like 'store credit' and made me part of GAW founders (what ever it means).
I really hate it when people lie, so already in April last year I decided to cancel my last order for a refund (which I was lucky to get) and to never do business with them again.    
 

I just mean in general your belief in Gaw and my lack in belief in Gaw. If you haven't been persuaded by reading this thread, then there's nothing I can possibly say that will lol. And I haven't seen anything to change my mind yet. I will keep an open mind though. If Josh does figure out how to create a $20 floor, well that would be one hell of a start.

So you don't believe me when I say that I did not put one cent of FIAT any crypto business. Well I can't disprove it what I can prove is this.

Address: 13PMri2kELRNziou7fHUtwMSkymEFzwWx1
Message: My block of 50BTC
Signature: HA0zVtpDWbkivNeeAJMp65k9YO1/aIIYC6ZBi7xz9WjVYjUSJFfvNjKale913hGhas7lsb//tEgjUjwpyYyXnmQ=

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I did not say anything of the sort. If you are OK with handing a dirty, stinking, rotten, lying, in-your-face con man like Josh all of your BTC, then that is your prerogative. It is also my prerogative to call you a moron for doing so. On the upside, since you are a gullible fool and claim that you will be out of the crypto world as soon as you have blindly handed all of your BTC to people who promise you the moon, you will not be around to whine about it much longer. Problem solved.

I would suspect the announcement is scheduled for next week, or during the BTC conference.  I wish I could attend.

Posts from this site led me over to GAW Miners long ago...and it has been a good ride over there.  I second what Daffy has said, the price dropped on som miners I had ordered, and a simple call got me credit.  Other items along the way have caused me to "believe" in the intent of the company, versus the mistakes along the way.  Basically, they always try to make things right for their customers.  Who else does that in this space?

I have gotten my ROI , so again, I am in for the long term benefit of what this vision has to offer.  I like the direction, even if the execution has not been stellar.  And I am not a XPY only kind of guy.  I still have LTC (now pretty much worthless, as I bought in or mined when it was $10+.  And a little smattering of other coins, Doge, BTC, Etherium...

What I do not understand, is if you have to scream SCAM from the mountaintops, why isn't that  cry backed up by real evidence of wrongdoing, and not just presumed wrongdoing?
 Companies and the people that drive them make mistakes.  It is how they take care of those problems that seperate the good ones from the bad ones.  My past experience with GAW leads me to believe they are trying to take this effort forward, and benefit their customers, and the industry.

 It does NOT appear that they are here to "take the money and run"....

I will leave that to the guys over at Cryptodouble....

I would like to hear your disagreement.

I like staking too... with baked potato, mushroom gravy and salad... nah seriously though the new cloud staking with hybrid hyperflex thermonuclear staking is going to be the wave of the future, everyone knows that  

Agree to disagree.

But I will say I think you are pretty much a stand-up guy and I appreciate your fair and thoughtful responses. You are welcome here anytime. I myself like to see both sides of the coin, lol. If for any reason you think we are wrong, be sure to let us know why. We always need someone to keep us honest too.

So you don't believe me when I say that I did not put one cent of FIAT any crypto business. Well I can't disprove it what I can prove is this.

Address: 13PMri2kELRNziou7fHUtwMSkymEFzwWx1
Message: My block of 50BTC
Signature: HA0zVtpDWbkivNeeAJMp65k9YO1/aIIYC6ZBi7xz9WjVYjUSJFfvNjKale913hGhas7lsb//tEgjUjwpyYyXnmQ=

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LMFAO. I think Daffy is (maybe) starting to figure out that he got conned and is now giving it the old "I don't really care if I win, it's just a game" bullshit that every pathetic poor sport who can not accept that they have lost has spouted since the beginning of time.

No, no.  Totally my fault.  Its a good lesson - I should write more clearly and shouldn't assume everyone speaks the same language or in the same proficiency.  Sincerely, thank you for the reminder.  Wish there was a dogecoin tipbot here, I would make a shibe out of you.

Well I made the calculations about buying some SP30's and it was really not very profitable to have them hosted in a data center and I really don't have the space or power requirements to do this at home. So the only next alternative was cloud hosting. And I got that from GAW with buying a war machine and later converting it to hashlets.


Yes i really could do this but making a coin is easy. The difficult part is making a coin that is successful. And that is exactly what GAW is trying to do. The implementation of their plans are not very good but at least they try to do something different and new.

Most coins that come on the market have no backing no community nothing they really start from nothing and most of them fail because everybody tries to pump and dump it.