Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1738. (Read 3377956 times)

I'd say if he had money to do that it would have been done already without causing all this noise. But as has been argued here for the last couple of months the floor never made sense and it is highly unlikely that GAW had or has or will have the cash to keep that promise. How much time are you willing to give him to do this?

Well, there's that, and then there are things like purchases disappearing with no explanation. This is some basic transactional stuff, that was a never ending issue on ZenCloud and apparently is infecting Paybase as well. How can you run a financial site like that is beyond my understanding. I'm not even going to start with the whole Stripe thing, my mind is boggled enough as it is.

Yes I read it and he really believed he could deliver the $20 floor. And from what I see he intends to keep that promise. How he intends to do this is still unclear. But this could be an indication. https://hashtalk.org/topic/28364/

Regarding Stripe: http://imgur.com/a/NtoNg/all

I've noticed a couple shill accounts on twitter trying to pretend their are "Joe User" of sorts - basically looks like a bunch of old accounts that were dormant since 2012 and bought to start hyping paycon.  There's the Wills Family, a Doctor, a couple DJs and senior citizens.   Blatant smoke and mirrors.

https://twitter.com/TheWillsFamily

You're making it sound like there is no "infighting" in the "mainstream". There is criticism and sharp opinions everywhere, as there should be. Making every site publish only company press releases wouldn't make the problems go away, unless you would like to argue that there are no problems with GAW. Face it, the CEO was caught lying and pumping and scrubbing, so getting some flack on the interwebs is not entirely unexpected. We're not in October anymore when all those pesky "proof of mining" questions could have been labeled as trolls making unreasonable demands to an innovative company. There are far more serious questions now.

How about this one? Better?

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-disappearing-20-floor/

Spot on my friend.

These guys are not professionals and they sure as shit are not millionaires. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  They're thousandaires wanting to be millionaires.  They're not professionals, they're amateurs and they're just trying to fleece other amateurs out of their hard earned money.

Millionaires and Billionaires start non profits, like Stellar STR.

I agree with that last statement. If they start implementation and then announce instead of announce and then implement they could recover from this.

The idea is that only trolls and haters are the problem for Paycoin/Paybase. Once grandmas and grandpas - who presumably don't read Reddit or Coinfire - start using it everything will be fine.

Trouble is that I don't see any added value this would offer to anybody, let alone the piss-poor track record of promises vs implementation.

Calling people to stand against a company scamming people is bad how exactly?


According to what metric? The getting rich quick metric? Or are you just regurgitating the garbage your cult leader makes up to sell his shitcoin?

News flash, the crypto industry is not failing, in fact it's growing at an incredible rate. You're just too entrenched in your religion of getting rich quick to see that.


No established companies besides Microsoft, Overstock, Newegg, Paypal, Namecheap, Virgin Galactic, and so on.


The problem is not the "infighting". The problem is with companies like GAW fleecing the gullible and financially ignorant.

The ONLY reason you have such a gripe with CT/other btc news sites is because they aren't actively pumping your get rich quick scheme.

It is a result of your boy's behavior. Everyone in anything gets 3 chances. Your boy has struck out now what 100 x's. Honest companies are welcome to set up shop anytime, anywhere for anything. Pathological liars get caught out the quickest and vilified the soonest which is the case here.

Seems to be a bizarre disconect in understanding all of this amongst the faithful. From accepting everything to just being a mistake, to allowing him to try to do what was promised etc.

Where in the original sales literature does it say that this venture is an attempt to make a crypto currency mainstream, and attempt to get it accepted in brick and mortar stores. An invitation to join in trying to do this with him.  Show the class where exactly it says this and was offered to everyone like this.

You can't. Because it was sold as we are already accepted in the top 3 stores, we already have massive finance in place and all this coin needs is marketing.  As soon as you sign up you will be able to shop directly with our already established partner retailers, pay your bills etc.

Instead were are we creeping up to one month later? No where.  No massive finance behind it, zero partner relationship with any established stores. Nothing.  Scrambling around to achieve the simplest of all things, credit card payments, which yet again is an utter failure.

Now that everyone is roped in and locked in for the duration, the gall to sit there and instruct them all to let this shit head Homero "try to fix the mistakes" "these things take time" "it is so new no one has done it" is .. there are not words to describe this deceit and con-artistry.

The faulure to see and recognize this is also mind-boggling. But it may explain why most venture  on in this garbage pile. You have to be as thick as a brick not to see what the fuck is in front of you, today, tomorrow and most certainly all of last month.

The only thing I see is the infighting in the community whether it is directed at GAW or any other crypto company. This really does show the world that crypto is far from ready to be mainstream. Once the infighting stops then people will start to pay attention and this is not because it was directed to GAW. The publications on that website with all the numerous articles about crypto stand out and have some good information but it is completely diminished with the infighting that some of those articles do and the GAW article is not the only one.

The article is an op-ed, i.e. an opinion of the author. Many publications do this, even dead-tree ones. But that's not really the point. There is CCN - arguably favorable to GAW, there are other news/blog/opinion sites, probably not favorable to GAW. Where do you see a problem or shame with that?

That op-ed by the way is quite good if you bothered to read it. Tongue-in-cheek to some extent, it even has a pitchfork illustration. It reflects on the antagonism between GAW and the rest of the "crypto world", which does exist, whether you like it or not. It even rips one into Bitcointalk for good balance.

It's okay. Honest ponzis like crypto double are willing to step up where Gaw is failing.

If people expressing opinions bothers you so much perhaps you should just keep your Daffy ass at HT and not read things outside of anything that is approved by the cult that you belong to. Problem solved.

Also, out of curiosity: How does one decide to publicly call himself "Daffy"?

"Hmmm, let's see, how about "Dufus"? ....Damn! Taken! How's about "DingDong", Shucks! Taken.  I know "Daffy" . Yaaah! Got it.

Opinion or news does it really matter it is still a call to arms and an invitation to riot. And people keep wondering why the crypto industry is failing. No established company is eager to step in that hornest nest.

Seriously? regardless of where the articles was posted on CT the article is clearly labeled an opinion piece.

Concerning Garza, TNABC and Bitcoin Media: ‘Down with Everything Associated with Anyone’ (Op-Ed)

Pretty sure Einstein could spell stupidity.  Ironic that whoever made that picture couldn't.

At least I can read and comprehend things I am commenting about. I also have enough common sense to not invest in an obvious scam.

Also: Would you prefer that I call just call you Daffy?