Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1742. (Read 3377956 times)

Looks like @root is ddos'ing cryptodouble..

Read through the thread towards the middle/bottom.

Somebody ddos'ing a ponzi from within a ponzi....it's like ponziception!

You can't make this shit up man

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28375/is-cryptodouble-a-ponzi-scheme

Is that what you really think? They just promised things and just made some mistakes?

What kind of pills are you taking?

The very definition of fraud is to present things as true when you know they're not in order to secure for yourself financial gain.

Josh Garza and GAW knew very well that there was no 100million fund, no plan to stabilize the price, no big investors, no Amazon or Walmart association, no nothing, and deliberately, purposefully and with clear intend of getting money out of the pockets of their customer-victims presented those things as facts.

Which part you don't understand?

Which part is disputed?

The financial gains GAW has accrued because of those deliberate lies?
That all of the above are lies published in full knowledge that they are false for the specific purpose of luring in their victims?

The burden of proof lies on GAW's shoulders. When I publish I have 100million to support the price and based on that declaration I'm selling fucking wallets for $16 a flop, don't I have to prove I'm telling the truth? And you call that a "mistake"?

GAW's customers were defrauded off their money because of deliberate lies and that is the very definition of fraud.

Josh has to provide solid, unquestionable evidence that:
1. He had indeed secured 100 million for coin support when he went public with this announcement
2. He had indeed secured Amazon and thousands other merchants for his coin when he went public with this announcement
3. He had indeed opened and funded accounts with all exchanges to support paycoin at the floor price he announced - not promised, announced
plus a myriad more...

Until the time such proof is provided, he is suspect of committing criminal fraud that cost huge financial loss to a great number of his customers.

Pathetic excuses like the NDAs and CFTC not letting him support the coin and words that are taken out of context and misunderstandings are just that: pathetic excuses targeting total idiots.

They do take credit cards, but at least with some measure of verification:

http://leaserig.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000075203-credit-card-acceptance-and-payment-polices

Seems right now zero verification at Homero's operation, is that even legal?  How about that money business license is there one for him in Texas now or wherever you should have it for your operation.

The impression they continually create is like a kid trying to stick a cube in the cube hole struggling and struggling and finally does it. Here they been struggling and struggling to keep their promise of CC payments trying everything and everyone, and now they probably lied to stripe to get one, they so proud of themselves, they forgot the fundamental license and verifications.

Cause once it is raised it will be declared BETA and the CEO never said it was live yet.  However half backed is the MO, they will shut it down after stripe tells them to, claim that something else forced them to close it, trolls attacking it, redditors hacking it, any old excuse, but there after gloat, see we did as we promised, we did provide CC payments. All for a day. Like the 30 second ceiling nearly realized. See but we did do as we said we would, we did meet the ceiling. All of 30 seconds that lasted.

Same story different day.

I think it's not that complicated. Mr. Dorman is GAW_GM by the way, and Mr. Eden is the head of QA if I remember correctly. They needed a quick merchant account and perhaps Leaserig already had one or something like that. I'd apply Occam's razor to this one. Location of the house or its condition probably doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't look any more like a church than any house on my street

Edit: just to highlight my point - the issue is not the obscure address, but the fact itself that the "largest reseller of mining hardware" or whatever it is actually needed to use one of their employee's address and violate payment processor's TOS to get this thing going. That is definitely something coinfire/coindesk/any self-respecting journalist should look into, there is a potential for some interesting discoveries. Find GAW's/Zen's past credit card processors, ask then what happened. Ask PayPal perhaps.

This guy was/is also one of GAW's "preferred" resellers....youcanmine.com I think it was but not 100% sure on that.

Keep it in the family huh (or in this case, weirdo church)!

From that thread i found part of this comment funny

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28399/gawminers-has-become-gaw-bank/77

"Ethics would hold us back, if we had any"

Interesting, how did I miss that. Google maps shows it to be a house maybe even a church, more likely a gaudy home. Seems another company was registered to that address as well, whole area looks brand new, no neighbors when the pic was taken on google maps. Name on there is Matthew K Eden

http://www.bizapedia.com/tx/AIFX-INCORPORATED.html

ha, what do you know trails back to Leaserig.Net LLC

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Austin/matthew-kenneth-eden/37132714.aspx

Jonah R. Dorman's  buddy.

Quite the web these kids are weaving. For some reason 

Full address of Paybase LLC in Texas:

382 AKALOA DR, BASTROP, TX 78602

So this new company just registered in Texas December 17, 2014

PAYCOIN-FOUNDATION-INC

http://www.bizapedia.com/tx/PAYCOIN-FOUNDATION-INC.html

had a website registered on December 6, 2014 by none other than

http://whois.domaintools.com/paycoinfoundation.com

Adam Matlack

https://twitter.com/adammatlack

Paycoin team leader and youth church leader

http://clearpoint.org/

where his desicples all seem to be continuously in gAWE of Homero and his schemes. No matter what.

Some serious fuckery is afoot here I believe.

Yes, and we finally get to watch the circus uninterrupted cause it seems they have finally given up the idea that they can control the forums like Soviet Russia. Them nuking rootdude out of the game gives us the fireworks finally as they clash!

It is like watching a live circus, one guy finally "gets it" and wants out, they swamp him with you will agree using a credit card is the easiest way for a new person to get into crypto ... a fee is something you should expect for something to be easier  whatever  etc. Holy Shit.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28399/gawminers-has-become-gaw-bank

Biggest joke of all is right on the front of paybase.com itself:

So what's this I hear about paybase charging a hidden 10% fee on credit card purchases?

lmfao...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28400/paybase-cc-purchase-vanished/29

anyone reported them to stripe yet?

No paybase llc in all of texas, just gaw miners and a new thing called paycoin foundation inc, same time last month as all his other quick registrations:

https://mycpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=paycoin%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32055928231

https://mycpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=gaw%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32054715753

first inc. he's got going or what? Socking 12 billion paycoins in it for him and his gang maybe?

http://www.bizapedia.com/tx/PAYCOIN-FOUNDATION-INC.html

Some third party merchant card services allow the "remote" client (i.e. GAW/PayBase) to specify their own vanity name to be listed as the debiting party. Although technically against Visa/MasterCard terms since it is suppose to be the specific owner of the merchant account's name, it happens.

Scott-

Notable citizens

    Carolyn Banks, fiction writer
    Greenleaf Fisk (1807–1888), legislator in the Republic of Texas and Bastrop county chief justice; he later moved to Brown County and became known as "The Father of Brownwood"
    DJ Screw (Robert Earl Davis Jr.), creator of the famous "Chopped & Screwed" DJ technique
    Michael Moorcock, science fiction/fantasy writer
    Thomas R. Phillips, former Texas Supreme Court Chief Justice
   The Undertaker (Mark William Calaway), WWE wrestler
    Billy Waugh, former American Special Forces sergeant major and Central Intelligence Agency paramilitary operations officer

Seems to have its own micro silicon valley going on:

http://www.bastropedc.org/it-technology

I wonder if this might be were their "real" data center is.

 

Capuano's  linkedin says he is in, San Antonio, Texas, simple check shows this Bastrop is 1.5 hour drive from there. I wonder what is there.

Zenminer / Eric Capuano is based in Texas. Not sure if this has anything to do with Bastrop though.