Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 196. (Read 3377790 times)

Troles are fudding ION so they can buy all the IONcoins themselves for cheap!

Fuddets not viable!

Refresh my memory though i thought he wasn't appearing (homero that is) and that his lawyer was going to appear on his behalf. When do we get to see josh in his court vest?

I have some different point, first in crypto is everybody an CEO and Ganza was the one who started extremly with such way of marketing promising everything calling people on who they are and what business they run, lol, same shit like its in shiners head, even in his doxxing attemps he tried to point out who who is by registered companies , what a dumb idea, where this is actually an genious move even if ganza would have never understood it even if he would think to understand it, it is pure luck for him. He used standard scheme which even works in real world, not only in crypto. Difference in crypto is, everything happens faster and timeframe for registering everything takes time where on hype money is made, just think about ebay, amazon, gift cards, $ 20 floor .... . All this "registered company" bullshit gave him this possibility, if people would care about more facts than just registered company, lol, you indeed have real scammers that can not only register an ghost company.

You are right, if legit details are hidden or non existing than it is red flag. At the same time you do say that these are same people. Now what would tell you more, an legit registered company US or EU with same people involved or just the fact who is involved?

Second is of course the nature of crypto. If you register an business, then only if it is getting successfull and if it is getting so big that you have to register it.

For me red flag are people and not their unregistered business which they start in crypto. I am also not an fan of new york license that gets always bigger popularity.

Nice "discovery". Let the slackers know too

Just discovered that there is an ION Coin subreddit already:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IONcoin

, I think you are the only who brings smile on my face with just 2,3 words, but you know I love you for that , seriousinvest is part of copyright history.

First of all, it's the LIE that matters. Trust and all that.

Second, if the company is just a shell company without any assets (most likely) then it should be a major red flag as well. I know nobody cares about such things because this is crypto, but it doesn't mean this should not be exposed.


ionomy is created by the same deluded gang of Garza's asslickers who tried to keep XPY afloat for a year.

This discussion is interesting (at least to me) as it highlights the uncanny similarities between the two projects - people involved, premine, demand of unconditional trust, lack of tangible product, hiding in their walled garden, I could go on but I think you get the idea.

The only guy I'd give bitcoin to is seriousinvest

Its not a matter of the 20 making them legitimte, but it is a huge red flag.

If the business registration is irrelevant, they shouldn't have mentioned it.

Buy I question how a company unable to do something simple like prove they are a registered company would be able to do any of the other stuff they are planning to do.

Can a company that needs 48 hours to answer a simple question do the things they are setting out to do?

Last update was 2 months ago. There was supposed to be an announcement of a class action I think. Didn't happen. In fact any information up to this point originated ONLY from Mr. Shinners, so it all depends on how much you want to trust that one individual. The good news is he didn't collect any money, the bad news is he collected a lot of personal information that could be misused in many different ways.

Again, deflecting from the point that they lied.

I didn't call you a name, I asked if you're shilling.

It seems to me you'll do anything to prevent that obvious fact from being made clear to people on this forum.

Perhaps, and perhaps you'll get to the stage where you employ common sense. Or where your conscience gets the better of your polluted heart. Whichever it is, either an idiot or a fraudster.

If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me.

It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam.

Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage?

Considering that the guy running the "gawsuit" is business partners with the guy who ran the data center that didn't contain any hashlets or pay their electricity bill or do anything but rob rubes, I'm guessing it will go about as swimmingly as every other GAW-project.

Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied.

What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO.

You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud.

Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information.

Shill, much?

Nice info - this is one reason why i'm staying!

I've been getting varying and contradictory feedback on the gawsuit.com as to whether it can succeed or is even real.

Do you have any opinion on the gawsuit.com process as it stands now?

http://ia601307.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362.docket.html

I'm going to put this in the OP as well. (edit: done)

hello boki15,

I know your post is not directed to me but i'd like to share with you some of my thoughts.

1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.

2) hashtalk had a lot of users, maybe thousands. I think many are embarrassed by their GAW losses and look to blame others but for me, the lesson was to realise that I was responsible for my loss and to face it. We were scammed, but, we know crypto is high risk always. Also, some people who were close to JG (like co workers, friends, investors) may be more hurt and embarrassed by the scam. I expect there was no way they could know the moment his intent turned bad. It is difficult to accept. I do not consider JG friends, co-workers, close investors to be scammers just because he fooled them too.

3) As for promotion of XPY, well it was no more than I did for MOON, MINT, BLACKCOIN, BOOM etc. It is what I do. I tweet about my investments and my chart analysis. Sometimes I am wrong, sometimes I am right. I do not offer promotion services (like some), I simply tweet what I do and think. I'm sometimes wrong. But so is everyone. I have not tweeted about ION / Ionomy yet, did anyone notice this?

4) Like many others, I made a lot of BTC in altcoins, they can be very lucrative even though they are risky. Everyone in blackcoin community knows what a large holder I was from 250 sats - i held millions of BlackCoins from the start. I tweeted out for everyone to buy. I made near a LOT of BTC just from BlackCoin at one point. Some people dislike me because I made profits. Some people do not like to see others succeed. I understand this. I am a trader and I trade to make profits. XPY was one coin that was a total loss for me (except I exchanged my XPY for ION so it's not over yet!). So I have an interest in Ionomy and my base opinion is that it can't be worse than XPY, the idea/model seems interesting and the XPY.io platform was quite cool.

I am still here because there are some good people here and I gain value from their views such as suchoon, bitpop and you too boki!

Hi Suchmoon,

I acknowledge that you have not claimed ION / Ionomy as a scam.

1) You said XPY is being "officially exchanged". That may imply so some that ALL XPY is being exchanged automatically. ION is a separate coin and blockchain. The exchange is (or was) an "offer" to existing XPY.io customers. The offer was not to XPY (the coin) holders, just to XPY.io (the platform) users.

2) I agree. There are varying levels of failure. The platform could not succeed with XPY as it's "core" coin. XPY is rotten, and it doesn't work and well, the list goes on with whats wrong with it.

3) Many people who run successful businesses first ran unsuccessful businesses. The experience is valuable. A prior "fail" can often be followed by "success".

Crypto is different in a sense as every venture is EXTREMELY HIGH RISK, even if BTC is your core. So, once we get beyond the "ION = XPY = SCAM" claims, we can start looking at all the other REAL potential problems such as those with the model, structure and planning.

I hope we can get beyond the "block" we (not specifically you) are at so we can look at the other parts sometime.