Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1972. (Read 3377922 times)

convert some xpy to match . im sure maldir will be a good sport and agree to paying the amount in xpy if you are concerned your investment go up in 6 months. e.g 60 btc vs 60 btc. if in 6 months you win he'll give you xpy in 60 btc value at todays rate for btc conversion.

I didn't say it was 99% not a scam. I said someone else said that it was 99% a scam. I would say my belief now is around the 10-20% range, so a bet on 10% seemed fair to me, considering how loud people are shouting SCAM.

Demanding a 50% bet when both people think the odds are less than that is unfair.

you are saying its 99% not a scam so odds are scewed to you then and dont reflect the bet.... unless you want to state the % you think you believe its not a scam? that would show your confidence. man up at 1:1 or back down. you are technically trying to cheat someone on the bet else. so... how high is your belief?

I don't have the 10 btc it would take to match your 100. I can get together 4 in a few days, which would match 40. If I had more, I'd put more.

If you leave up 100btc on the bet, I'll match as much as I can, and you can withdraw the rest. (On the same odds.)

I'll even put the bet to hashtalk, and probably people there will match more than I can.

100 btc is about $40,000 aud at present. 20btc is $8,000 aud. i think for a decent skin game they should be able to match 60 btc. 20btc is chicken feed. thats 2 months wage. do half a years or 60 btc to be interesting.

The claim people are making here is that they are sure paycoin is a scam, sure enough to write over 500 pages on it and expose themself to considerable ridicule if it isn't. That requires a great deal of confidence. I've had people tell me in irc that there a "99% chance" that paycoin is bust in a week. The claim I'm betting for (that paycoin won't go bust) does not have to hold a high confidence to act on it. If I have a >50% probability in that, then buying paycoin for $10 in hopes of getting $20 is justified. To bet, I need a better incentive than doubling my money.

That's the reason the odds are better for me: it's against the market. In order to bet at even odds, people would have to believe that there's a 50% chance that paycoin isn't a scam. From the tone of people here, they're not ready to put that at 50%, but they might put it at 10% or less. That's why I chose that number.

All bets are determined by what people are willing to risk for it.

pretty much everyone bought xpy with fiat.
buy btc trade for xpy
buy hardware with fiat mine btc trade for xpy
think about it, thats the basics.

people that acquired peoples xpy for btc or fiat @20 need a rise to profit. should they not then there are your profit losers. again people have to lose for people to win. GAW just hasnt fallen over yet. wait for paybase and the trans holds. the pain will begin soon. just not for you as you were an early person. your buyers are the real future victims

100 BTC or nothing.

Big mouths with things to lose speaking loudly.

Put up or shut up.

100 BTC on your spam website.

You a doer or a loser?

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Your beliefs are just wrong.   I still have a lot of XPY from mining as do many others.   I doubt many bought XPY with fiat, however a lot of XPY has been bought on exchanges with BTC.   Most of GAW's customers also hold XPY from mining converted HashPoints and now from staking.   Early investors have also been given their paycoin and much of it is tied up in supporting the Prime controllers.   GAW only holds a small portion of what they did.

Since you don't even understand the basics of how the coin was distributed and acquired, I don't see how anything else you say about the coin has merit. 

isnt a 10:1 unequal. i thought yourbet was 1:1 on their terms. if you believe in the bet shouldnt it be 1:1 matching ?

I'll only be able to match ~20 BTC at these odds. I may get more in a few days (well, it all depends on whether paybase ever opens up ...).

dumpers united is ready to put up one hell of a fight if xpy troops try and retake .044 territory from .029 gaw is evil bitch please well win dont worrie

i am waiting confirmation on the coins.


The bet is now 100 BTC. Cold cache.

You better show your face....

dumpers united also has intel that josh has been sending his own population to fema camps for systematic slaughter aka hashstakers were hes been organ harvesting i mean harvesting there btc kinda how nazis stole jew gold valuables to fund his fiat reserve it takes no genius to come to terms ht sucide bombers have run out of btc this war is almost over josh has become radical weeks recently collapse of the ht gaw regime is soon

I believe the only people holding XPY coins are GAW itself and those who bought XPY with fiat and are hoping and wishing the exchange rate will increase to the point that they'll break even. Who knows ... maybe Josh will smoke a big bowl of crack and dump millions into XPY and make that $20-$25 floor and the non-GAW people will actually get their chance to get out without loosing much.

Those of us who mined XPY, I think most of us cashed out and payed for our electric used and a little more.

I know I cashed out and paid for my electricity used... I was thinking of cashing out when the first stink whiffed through the air, I would have made a profit then, but I stuck onto XPY, letting it play out a bit more. But when the stink got worse than my cats food, It was time.

At this point. I think Josh's best move, to save face, and to save millions in $$$ (by not dumping cash into the XPY market to make the floor ) and to possibly avoid any criminal investigation, would be to shut down paycoin, then refund anyone who used fiat currency to buy XPY, purchasing it from the actual paycoin website. A direct sale of XPY, then not following through with what was advertised, that is the liability he faces. To mitigate that liability, a timely refund to those who used the direct purchase should be made.

If anyone bought XPY with fiat through an exchange, I'm not sure of the legal obligations or consequences that he would have. IE, Would Josh need to refund people if they purchased XPY on a third party site?

The sooner he realizes paycoin was fundamentally flawed from the start and will either cost him millions of dollars when everyone cashes out at the floor he advertised, or cost him millions of dollars in criminal penalties if he does nothing, the sooner he has that revelation, the better. A refund action for those who purchased direct will help him if a criminal case is brought forward by those who used an exchange with fiat to purchase XPY.

youtube.com/watch?v=OmlH8Sua0Yw alot innocent people will die when this anti gaw war occurs monday josh very well might kill himself like hitler when his fiat bunker collapses and his shrills lose the xpy conflict on the battlefield there already weak tired atm his shrills have retreated to .029

50 BTC inside 6 months.

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/paycoin-will-have-a-less-than-15-value-by-february-1058

You create an account, then go to balance and get an address. Then go to my link and bet. You can lay odds on yes, which means you win if no happens. The odds I'm willing to match are 10:1, so you make 11% percont if you're right. If you lay odds, enter 10 for odds offered on yes. I'm waiting for my transfer to confirm, you need 4 confirmations to lay. I'll lay odds on no after my transfer confirms at 1.11 odds.

Note: as this was requested, it isn't spam, so don't delete it like my previous posts. I'll send it as a PM to the quotes just in case.