Regarding Cnn, CCN. I am sorry did Josh ever say CNN? I am not being sarcastic, I am asking.
I also don't like the site itself CCN as of course they picked the name to throw people off some, but like any blog I read it with a grain of salt. Sadly with today's big media quality I would argue they are no worse then CNN, Wallstreet etc as most media reports for headlines and page views not for content and investigative reporting.
Update: All interviews are done (
CNN, WSJ, Fortune Magazine, Venture). They do not tell us specific dates and times (for whatever reason) so now we wait. I should know they day it goes out. Personally, I think the first one will be the WSJ. We will definitely see some Monday
https://hashtalk.org/topic/18452/hashcoin-ico-media-tour-updateSee now that is helpful and I don't doubt the validity. This could be used as some of the proof people pretend to have. This could be entry one.
Just you will need to take it down later if those articles do come out in the future.
It's been more than a month now and all we've seen is a bunch of paid-to-spam press releases and a variety of interviews with bloggers.
People don't pretend to have proof, it's just most people don't feel like digging through 400 pages to find it.
Actually I don't think this would hold up in a court of law much less the court of public opinion as proof that gaw is a complete scam
However, I will not invalidate it like I didn't in my post above. I said this can be point one in a nice summary of all the proof people claim to have.
I find however when mob mentality rules and people just repeat things they delude themselves into thinking something that is just not based in fact at all.
I would imagine that with the passion I see here by some they would be able to quickly summarize all the proof to help the community and new readers to this thread.
After all isn't the point of this thread to educate and help people be warned of the evil GAW empire with more then just repeating the gate fueled rantings that just get repeated? I say a ummary with all the proof starting with that quote would be a good start and go further to saving everyone from themselves then rantings.
I look forward to more constructive posts and proof.
Heck if even the most passionate posters here can't start a summary of proof against GAW I can do it for them. However atm my list would be quite small.
Anyone want to add to the list of proof? Once again, thanks in advance.
Point 2 - Refusal to show they are actually mining. Using a wsj blog to attempt to validate said coins. Refusal to sign a message showing the balance of freshly minted coins.
Point 3 - CTO Joe mordica stated he'd do a walkthrough of the entire datacenter and let people tell him where to turn where to go live and he'd spraypaint in pink this is my house when they tell him to stop. This was to show us they had the mining they said they did. What did he do instead? A laptop webcam video that pointed down a little row... with no sound (to hide the amount of noise suggesting miner amount), in the dark with no lights on.
Point 4 - Statements of high tech flexchains, thermo whatever etc. Sourcecode demonstrates none of this exists. GAW denies it was forked from peercoin or one of its siblings... shown to be false as peercoin i believe it was was still in the readme! They pulled the github source after this.
Point 5 - Saying they own paycoin trademarks etc. He only has a filing which he lied about the first use date on.
Point 6 - Stated Target / Amazon / Macy's were tier 1 merchants on board. In fact they are not. Used NDA cover to conceal it but coinfire emailed them and it was said to contrary that they weren't involved as did target. GAW's payment then changes to a plugin which turned out to be zinc save. Pay site had amazon listed... zincsave against amazon TOS. Amazon logo disappeared from the GAW pay site after amazon informed.
Point 7 - Big investors never named. Implied partnership with cantor fitzgerald and $100m floor funding. Refusal to show any such proof or statements.
There are many more. There are 7. Josh has a demonstrated history of being a compulsive habitual liar that changes his stories as he goes. Believe what you want to but i doubt you actually came here for such a listing. Someone with your vested interest amount would have followed GAW from the start so you should have seen all the red flags and raised issues. Their forum talks as much about us as we do about them.
I am getting tired and was going to stop posting replies as I can't type very well. However! Since you took the time to respond I will respond to one more post. As always I thank you for your time to post a reply.
Point 2 - Not many places today have come out with proof. We have even witnessed some very good proven photoshops in the past. To be fair the Post of Josh standing in front of all those machines in that big warehouse I stared at for a while. The one problem I had with it was they didn't have multiple shots of more rows of equipment. Just being honest....
Point 3 - Hmm never saw that video, but I guess we agree to some extent on this point by my answer above. ( I am replying to point by point as I read them ) Ohh and to continue in the spirit of open minded honesty on the point, BITMAINTECH ( a company I trust as much as I trust any company in this unregulated crypto space ) confirmed 5ph of miners.
Point 4 - I don't have much to say on this point as I have not crossed it much or felt the need to look into it. Vut others might find it a valuable point to research further.
Point 5- Again, not my area of expertise... guess people need to dig deeper on this and then evaluate if it is 1. not right and 2 then proof of a full company scam.
Point 6 - I already replied to this in a previous post. I agree they sho7uld have not let people jump to the conclusions they did about t being a direct partnership.
Point 7 - Valid point, but again what companies release all info to any bloke on the street? But I would say this is something to be pursued and proven true or false as it would add a lot!
Again, thank you for the post and well thought out and structured reply.
I woudl suggest someone on this thread that is community oriented carry this post and add to it. I would just ask it be open, fair and factual to have value. There are probably another 20 or so points that could be added good and bad.
I am just very tired atm and never learned to type so I can't whip up replies as fast as others pecking away with only 3 fingers.
Well gn and once again thank you... someone should fairly continue the points you started to add at least some real value to new people to the thread.
Gn
